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The reasons we are approaching different conclusions can be attributed to the fact that I am talking about geocaching and you are talking about tourism. I am in favour of programs that develop geocaching no matter where they are and I would not object to a government spending my tax money to develop geocaching. None of my statements are applicable to tourism but hold true for "geocaching", that is my cause you might say. In the scenario outlined in the article it appears that the feds are just going to cough up some cash and then the PEI tourism operators are going to use the funds to develop geocaching, I am not sure the feds have any ability to "promote" but tourism groups do. The funds are going to be used to develop geocaching, this may help tourism, I can't be sure but I can be sure it will help geocaching by raising the profile and by making this activity more accessible. If the feds are going to promote anything, then why not on the nationally. I will try to look at this the way you are. Yes, promoting geochacing with federal dollars is beneficial to the hobby, but could it not be done at the national level and get away from any notion(perceived or not) that regional promotion amounts to nothing more that favortiism. It would benefit the hobby more if the thousands that may travel to Canada for a va-cache-tion were aware of the hobby opportunities nationwide than the few hundred tourists that opt for a PEI trip. But I am still against public money funding hobbies. Remember, there might be something that gets the public money that you disagree with.

That seems to be a tangenital discussion. Why would sun burned testicles even factor into this discussion All I am saying is that local and provincial governments should be the ones promoting local tourism. Everyone seems to need the feds to dig deeper into my pocket to help their cause. If PEI is struggling to attract tourists then should it not be their tax dollar and businesses that pay to promote their province. Do you really trust our Government to handle any kind of promotion. I think it should be left to the ones that have a clue! Sounds like your an MP in Ottawa talking like that. Look at all the chump change that caused a big change in who runs the country. Now I know this has really gotten away from the intent of the original post. What’s done is done in PEI, so let’s sit back and see what happens. And wavector, enough of the off colored remarks about the family jewels.

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If the PEI government wants to sponsor something like this then fine. But why should the Federal government have to support regional tourism. I have to pay taxes so the South Shore of PEI can get a few more tourists? Bullpuckie!!!! Call me a Redneck Albertan then. Just think of how many regions in Canada there are. So their South shore tourism industry is more important than Southern Alberta’s. Hmm, a $17,000 donation? Then what about the Cypress Hills region? Roughly same size? Distinct? What's it worth to promote tourism and caching in? Who decides what regions get promoted? How much? Why not promote and fund caching in Canada as a whole. Why just this region. And don't say that it'd because someone took the initiative to enquire about funding. That funding should be local and/or provincial. Why must the government dole out money to every little group with their hand out? As far as I’m concerned, the Government of PEI is exploiting our hobby to increase tourist dollars and make money. My point is that as a Federal government, it should promoting Canada as a whole, and not by region. I can read the headlines now. TORIES LINKED TO GOECACHE SPONSORSHIP SCANDAL

Me thinks me don't need or want it here.

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Wavector, I agree that something like this would be good for the activity. What I don't like is that our tax dollars are used for it. I chose to get into the hobby, I invested MY money into the purchase of a GPSr, and I pay to be a Premium member of the website and this board. When the government gets involved things go wrong. If it looks like something that might turn a buck, then all h3ll breaks loose. Regulations, fees, permits?????? Setting up a website to list the caches. $17,350.00 to develop a Geocaching project. Wait a minute, Is this not what Geocaching.com does. Are they not established. Why do it twice? If the governments need to spend tax dollars , then donate something to help this site and list with them. I found 104 caches listed for PEI. Now as a cacher planning to visit PEI I would visit GC.com and load up some caches in the GPS for the areas I plan to be in. I'm not going to search out another website that has listing for special tourism caches and then have to manually imput everything because someone didn't do therir homework and the only format they offer is .xyz for the commodore 64. I have no problem showing people the hobby or loaning out a spare gps. Even a local cache day to twig some interest. But keep it out of the hands of the government. It makes no sense to re-invent the wheel.

Hey UBG, Your sounding as bitter as a Starbucks Java. Read between the lines my friend, Not just Alberta has a labour shortage. With all the easterners here, they need someone to harvest the spudatoes. And what a better way to do it. Post the co-ordinates of each plant on a taxpayer funded website and then have everyone drop of their find in the "Community Cache" located at every parking lot. HMMMM!!!! The City is complaining about their Natural Gas reserves.

Fishing, Jeeping, and Geogolfing.

I upload mine to photobucket.com and then copy and paste the image tag into your post.

Everyone shoud email thi thread to garmin. I know I did

Even though I posted pics showing how accurate the Cx (under clear skies) was compared to a benchmark reference point, I did notice that under any cloud cover or canopy of trees the accuracy diminished quickly. In the vehicle to find addresses and routes, it worked great, But I use gpsr for geocaching also and it was a bit more than frustrating to be in less than ideal conditions and walking around in circles for a cache. Now I know there is a level of innacuracy involved with both the cache placers and the finders gpsr, but my old Magellan GPS Pioneer which I started the hobby with put me a lot close to the search area. Reading that you are 25m left of the mark and in 2 steps you are now 33m to the right makes me want to pull out what little hair I have left. Garmins answer to all this is HARD RESET and RE-AQUIRE SATTELITE. Been there, done that to many times. As this was a new LegendCx, I opted to return the unit last week and I upgraded to a MAP60Cx. Hope to have it on Monday. I do hope that the 2.60 fixes the problem, but I do have my doubts.

1St Magellan GPS Pioneer (sold) 2nd Garmin Legend (sold) 3rd Legend C (still use as backup, unable to talk to computer) 4th Magellan eXplorist 500 (returned=crap) 5th Garmin LegendCx (returned=crap) 6th Garmin Map60Cx 7th? Garmin Etrex Camo (supplied by work)

That model is the first GPS I bought. It was a very good unit with none of the bells and whistles you see on even the basic models of today. Even after I purchased a Legend I still used it alot and even took it along on my first caching experience in '03.

02 Jeep Sahara fits the bill, unless the kids friends tag along. Then its the minivan.

Yes, they were waypoints on both receivers and the goto function was used to find the benchmark. But remember, I was in the open prairie. I do notice some significant fluctuation in the readings when I head into the river valley under a lot of tall trees. And yes, some of the readings were out by 22 meters.

In my neck of the woods(Southeast Alberta) the only trees we have have been planted in yards or in the river valley. Caches in the bald a** prairie are no prob, but I have noticed that caches located in the river valley are a little harder to locate as the Legend Cx seems to hace trouble maintaining a lock on the sats. The benchmark pics I posted earlier have all been in the wide open so I'm guessing an antenna/reception problem.

Try looking up your Provincial Surveyors Assc and see if they have a list posted.

I located a couple more benchmarks around Medicine Hat and took some pics. ASCM 91777 - Medicine Hat N 50° 01.714 W 110° 44.593 ASCM 91777 Legend Cx N 50° 01.714 W 110° 44.599 Legend C N 50° 01.714 W 110° 44.599 #2 GSD 82A522 - Dunmore N 49° 58.592 W 110° 33.062 GSD 82A522 Legend Cx N 49° 58.598 W 110° 33.074 Legend C N 49° 58.594 W 110° 33.066 Another pic of the site(Cap was sealed)

OOPS!!!!!!!!!!! Double post.

I found the nearest Benchmark I could find and did a little test. (Sorry the pics didn't turn out too good) The GPS on the left is the Legend Cx, and the one on the right is a Legend C. Both were accurate to within 6 metres. The benchmark coordinates are N50 07.764 W110 53.531 Benchmark The Legend Cx were N50 07.763 W110 53.533 The Legend C were N50 07.765 W110 53.531 I was a little more than impressed with these finding, but I want to hit a couple of more benchmarks an check.

Went out this afternoon with my new Legend Cx and it put me on top of the two caches I was hunting for. I have been reading up on this thread AFTER I had purchased the the Cx and had some major concerns, but so far so good.

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I've put together somewhat of an Alberta list of benchmarks. You can download it from here.