Seems to me that some of you like to create caches to show how clever you are. Okay with me to a point. My understanding of the spirit of the game is to give the seeker a pleasant experience. This certainly may involve overcoming some difficulties but why put the seeker through hell just to find a nothing cache in a garbage pile. I would rather have people find my cache and be happy, not just relieved. My own approach to cache hunting has been to not seek caches placed by people who have disappointed me in this way more than a few times. Quality, not quantity please.