Morgan's Marauders

There is always dissesion within the faithful (color of the carpets, wood for the pews, micro - vs - regular.)

Very self-centeredly, I nominate Keith&Company. My sister and brother in law (Keith and his company) insisted we visit geocaching.com. They were on fire! Me - well, whatever. After several phone calls, we received a package in the mail - a little yellow etrex. Figuring we'd HAVE to go because they went through the trouble, we went - and three years and three hundred finds later, we're still having a blast! That little yellow etrex was passed on to my husband's brother and his wife so they could share in the joy too. If you read any of their logs, from the caches they've placed to the events they've attended/held, there are always kids around. That is the usual "company" with them. They have kids all up and down their street in the neighborhood who pile in the cache mobile and enjoy the great outdoors with these two wonderful people. Mary Jo and Keith are my parents in the geocaching sense, and they have spread the love of the outdoors to the younger generation as well. Their enthusiasm for geocaching and their willingness to give back to the sport/RASH has been an inspiration to the Morgan's Marauders. I am always proud to speak to cachers who have been to Ohio and hear them speak the praises of Keith&Company. They get my vote! AND - if they win - I think it would be really cool if THEY received BOTH sticks - a his and hers, if you will!

DRAT!!! Where is a little applause smiley?? Nicely done!

That is way cool! Did they have multiple GPSs to go and find them? Thanks for helping the little ones!

I second that nomination. Dot Plotter has been VERY encouraging to new cachers (placers) here in our neck of the woods. Dot Plotter is even patient when explaining rules (for example, about event caches) to Old Cachers like me. The very BEST reasonn to give Dot Plotter the staff is because I have no idea who he/she is. This way, I can look around and see who's got Signal on their staff! (Wait a minute: doesn't Jeremy have Signal on his staff? Ohhhhhhh, a hiking staff!) See how forgetful I am! Dot Plotter is great to put up with me! - Momma Marauder

Guys, come on! Back off! I don't think he's kidding! CARP, he's gonna ruin it for all of us. We're sorry! We're sorry! DON'T CALL "THEM"!!! I'll call the main offices of EVERY chain, grocery and every other store in the country if you like.......... My Walmart is 24 hours - I'm sure you could call now! (540) 667-9111

The emails are actually being sent from your profile, so I would think the only solution would be to put a email link on each cache page that would automatically generate a subject line utilizing the GC number. But then again, what do I know?

Appears to be in the middle of a golf course? Maybe the secret keeper got a hole in one?...

Through the OTHER methods, silly! Yeah!! My parents always told me I needed to be more responsible!! Oh, OT - sure, sign it. It's all good!

It's not going to happen. After all, according to the comments in this thread, I'm an obstinant, immature, boring, anal rententive, ridiculus, spiteful, power tripping, rigid, fanatical, pinhead, dick who doesn't care about starving people. Seriously, to fully understand this particular situation, you would need to be familiar with the friendly kidding that has been going on in Mississippi concerning PMO caches for a long time. Also, the theme of the cache came into play. The truly ridiculus thing about this is that the cacher has now attempted to log the cache over forty times, with each log receiving the same fate - my delete key - and he has yet to get the message! In the spirit of the search, Mark aka Push. Well, as you know from my previus posts, I regularly allow non-PMs to log our PMO caches the few times that such a situation occurs (and it occurs very rarely.) However, in your case, there are factors which many observers may be quite ignorant of, namely the karmic factor. You see, I visited the Akashic Records Room in the Akashic Library this morning, where all records of all life in alll of God's Universe are stored, and I did some research on this matter. I discovered that you (the cache owner) and the non-PM finder have actually been chronically and consistently engaged in various tug-of-war "battles" for over 1,344,561 incarnations/lifetimes over 806,204 years. It all started when you were both blue-green cyanobacteria (aka slime algae, fighting over a piece of debris in the bottom of a boiling volcanic mudpot almost a million years ago, in the Paleolithic era. And then, as you each evolved through various forms, the disputes continued: you tussled with each other over earthworms during your lifetimes as a chicken, you tussled over snacking on choice pieces of deer poop when you were both incarnated as hound dogs, and you tussled over a hottie slinky female street cat when you were each incarnated as male alley cats in London five hundred years ago. And now that you are both incarnated as human beings in the 21st century, you are continuing your tussles, but this time over a geocache find. What is salient and important to note here is that this tussling is not being done by each of you largely by conscious choice, but rather it the tussling is happening largely only because you are each being driven by deep and ancient karmic issues, dating back almost a milllion years, and thus there are deep and ancient memories driving each of you. Thus, you are each victims here of nearly a million years of accumulated karmic history and residue, and you each largely have no choice but to continue to tussle, as you are each driven by massive karmic forces. And this is what I learned in reading your karmic history in the Akashic Records Room this morning. Huh? You ask what is my point, and how is this relevant to the matter at hand? Oh... I forget... did I have a point?... huh...? As a believer in the Bible's account of a literal 6-day creation, I find myself wanting to take offense at your evolutionary bias. Furthermore, reincarnation is a myth!! I should be highly offended by your post and report it to TPTB!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe I will, after I stop laughing!! Vinny, you must write a geocaching book! I will buy it! I might even climb a tall pylon to get it!! Oh yeah - on topic - give the guy his find and move on with it.

I think we should ban people from stealing other people's initials!!! MM Momma Marauder

nevermind...

Well.... what did "dead nuts" mean to you? Honestly, I would have read it a couple of times, shrugged my shoulders and let it alone... but that's me. I think you did right by changing it. From Urbandictionary.com: 1. dead nuts Completely level or plumb. A definition used in the construction trades. After I laid the porch steps I checked them with my level and they were dead nuts! It's always a good day when you learn something new!

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, I like that!

Hey, OBG, just an FYI - it's okay to feed the pig.

If it were my cache, it would certainly be a find, Bob. The original post (OP) of this thread was focused on a completely different issue.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, if only I had let Fatdog have the smiley.................................

Thanks, Team Teuton, for trying to help me - but apparently I was being clueless when I read YOUR post. And thanks Hikergps - for repeating what needed to be repeated, because apparently the second time is a charm. Moderator, please feel free to lock this topic!

I have looked under "My Controls" and "Options" - but I can't find a way to unsubscribe. Can anyone help me? Did this ability go the way of the thread starter's ability to lock a topic?? Help! Momma Marauder Edited to say that I really do know how to spell "Unsubscribing"!

Quiggle tells me I can unsubscribe from this thread by posting - sure hoping he/she is right!

See how ugly things can get, WizCreations? Don't say I didn't warn you!

Yeah, a happy ending! Now, quick, lock the topic before it gets ugly in here for no good reason!

But it isn't difficult... Unless there is a gun toting maniac hovering over the cache or some such. There is *nothing* stoping you walking up to the cache, retrieving it, signing the log and walking away. There are no special skills like tree climbing involved. We've already established (at least I think we have established) that failure to retrieve the cache unobserved does not constitute reason for log deletion, so there are no special required skills for getting at the cache, therefore it is very different from the cache up the tree scenario, which you may not be *able* to retrieve and replace. i am very new at this, but i want to weigh in, where it applies to above. when i went on my second ever hunt and found the cache there were some muggles watching intently. i was standing there looking at the cache, an ammo can, knowing that if i pulled it out and signed the log that it would probably be muggled as soon as i walked away. so i figured i would just leave it, so it wouldn't get muggled. i emailed the owner, proved beyond doubt that i found it, and he allowed me to log it as found. as far as getting it without the muggles seeing me, it was near a campground, it wasn't gonna happen. i felt that even if i was not allowed to log it, i would still rather have that happen then to sign it and have the cache disappear five minutes later. i don't see the same situation happening much, but shouldn't there be some discretion? Yes, there should be some discretion, and you used it.

..................... After all, what is the reason for not allowing the find? Do you not believe that they saw the actual cache? Or is it more along the lines that its the challenge of removing the cache without being caught that you wanted to convey. I know they saw the cache - they did not sign the log. Seemed pretty clear to me. If that is the case, and if they had retrieved the cache, but it had been muggled shortly after, would you have deleted their find? Absolutely not! I know it was placed in a high muggle area. If its 'part of the challenge' to not be caught with the cache, and the whole 'secret agent' type thing, then if the cache is muggled the next day, it would seem that they didn't meet the challenge, and the log should be deleted, but I don't think you'd find much support for that idea. The challenge is to retrieve the cache, sign the log, and replace the cache. If its a matter of confirming that they were actually there, then if you can't audit the cache log, then you can't confirm that they were there, therefore again by that logic the find should be deleted if the cache goes missing. If you aren't deleting the log in that case, then you are willing to trust that they actually did find the cache, and didn't lie about it, then it makes sense to trust that they did actually find the cache, even if they didn't sign the log (unless you have an apriori reason to believe otherwise). They said they found it but didn't sign it. No sign, no smiley. I thought it was important to share with the cacher the GENERALLY ACCEPTED guideline of the geocaching community. I don't know if I'm making any sense now, or just rambling, so I guess I'll shut up for the time being.... Thanks for sharing your opinion! We're all a community here!

Ummmmmmm. Ok. But I disagree. That's the way I play the game - urban micros drive me nuts but I'll do them. If we (the placer) are going to put a cache in an area like that, it's a chance and a choice we make. I think this thread has run its course. Maybe Fatdog will come and close it. (I do - however - feel somewhat "special" that my cache was the catalyst for this thread. 15 minutes of fame or something like that... )