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  1. 8 hours ago, cerberus1 said:

     

    Normally there's an agreement with that name and address,  saying that you agree  to place them within two weeks.

    I believe they do check, and if folks are just keeping them, they probably won't be given the opportunity again...

     

    Yes, they do check.  Shortly after I received one from a previous promo, I dropped it in an event cache but nobody took it.  Then I had foot surgery and couldn't get out to place it within the 2 week time frame.  It wasn't immediate, but a short time after, I got an email reminding me of that agreement.  While I did reply with an explanation - and did drop it in a cache promptly after that - I fear it has given me a black mark for future TB promos. Shucks.

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  2. As far as the OP,  COs should expect an NM if they don't maintain their caches, and an NA if they continue to ignore the need for maintenance. 

     

    And I'm going to go ahead and say it:  Especially for PTs/series.  Why?  A CO's long line of caches all needing logs is different from doing simple cacher maintenance for a couple of individual caches, due to the sheer number of logs needing to be replaced.  Besides the disregard for CO obligations, it's unrealistic to expect the community to maintain a power trail or many in a series of caches.  That's not only an expense that finders shouldn't be expected to finance, it's also tedious as heck after a while.

     

    Private discourse (i.e., messaging the additional text in the NA log) might [or might not, admittedly] preclude the rather public display of disaffection.  Obviously it didn't, in this case.  Perhaps the CO referred to in the OP struck out in anger because he/she is naturally thin-skinned; perhaps he/she was embarrassed by the public statement. 

     

    At any rate, attempting to shame a cacher for logging NA, by posting an Attack Note on the cache page is inappropriate.  I'm glad to see that the reviewer stepped in to counter ... and kudos for resisting the urge escalate further.

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  3. 11 hours ago, niraD said:
    12 hours ago, colleda said:

    Finders logs noted missing lids, torn baggies and wet log sheets. He could not comprehend why  finders were not fixing these issues.

    Yeah, expecting finders to replace broken containers is rather presumptuous. And baggies and dry log sheets don't address the issue of a container that isn't weatherproof.

    That's when I STOP providing friendly community service:  When it becomes obvious the CO won't - and expects the community to - maintain his/her nasty broken caches.

    I also won't replace a pill bottle.  Hate 'em; don't carry 'em.  Might or might not slap some duct tape on it; probably would replace the log ... depends again on the above situation.

  4. 7 hours ago, Justin Of Terrytown said:

    Does anybody else Geocaches with family?

    Not usually.  One of the reasons I hike and geocache is to relieve cabin fever/being around people 24/7. 

     

    I've always enjoyed hiking, climbing, and just "communing with nature".  Not so, my Muggband.  For him to enjoy to the Great Outdoors, there must be skis or a ball in play.  Very rarely (such as on a trip), I will take him with me to a non-hiking cache that promises to be creative/inventive/sneaky.  He's a great story-teller, and enjoys regaling friends with discovery tales.  "You won't believe where we found this thing ...."  He becomes a walking commercial for geocaching.  :)  He doesn't have - nor does he want - an account.

     

    Upon rare occasion, my daughter accompanies me to find 1/1, 1/1.5 caches, just for an afternoon "adventure" or if we're early for an appointment.  Many of those are micros, so I have a separate logbook for her to sign & I note the GC code for each signature. (She can't see where to sign, and her writing is rather large.)  She does enjoy discussing ideas for creating new caches.  She doesn't have an account, either.

     

    I do plan on dragging a couple of my siblings to some caches along the Banana & Indian Rivers when I visit next.  Mainly because they have kayaks :D and I know they'd love the paddle anyway ... but also to get them "hooked", so they'll go to some others that I really shouldn't hunt alone. (Waders and gators in swamps, oh my!)

  5. 1 minute ago, cerberus1 said:

     

    I don't feel "Discover" does anything for me, but could mean everything to a Trackable Owner.  :)

    I'm not caching lately like I used to.  The majority of my logs now are Discovered.

    My Discover log will tell the TO if their trackable's in the cache it's supposed to be in and  its condition. 

    In my Discover I'll tell you the name of the  %#&@  hoarder who just dumped your Trackable from a box of 60 others on a table,  at an event too.

     

    As a TO who does read Discover logs, I appreciate details like this.  Thanks!

  6. On 9/17/2019 at 1:45 PM, fendmar said:

    Can someone please help me understand the definition of a "full log". Pictures would be great!

    No photo here, because it was an online log including the statement, "Full Log."

    It was an editing note, explaining the reason for the edit.  (Field log posted earlier in the day; full log followed.)

    I realized after about 20 of 50 that the "full log" note might be misinterpreted to mean maintenance was needed, so I changed to "Complete log." 

    Thought I caught them all, but could have missed a few.

     

     

  7. Notice that you can change the language of the Help Pages with the Google Translate link near the top of the Help page:

     

    Help Center→For the new geocacher→1. Start here                           Translate

                                                                                                                           ^^^^^^^^^  

     

     

  8. On 9/17/2019 at 9:27 AM, K13 said:

    Are people really upset that there are un-named benefits to Premium Membership?

    Not upset. Searching for answers. 

    Annoyed that invariably, whenever I'm looking for a quick answer I end up having to pick up crumbs of info from several different Help Pages before getting the complete answer.  Whoever re-arranged the Help Pages doesn't think/organize the way I do.  At least they have a Search function.

    Sure, it makes sense that app-specific benefits would be in the app section; site-specific benefits would be in the site-specific section; in the purchase-specific section, it makes most sense to include all the benefits.

    But hey, that's just the way I think.

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  9. This. Sounds. Awesome! 

     

    As far as difficulty:  It seems well laid out/organized.  I didn't find it confusing in the least to figure out how to qualify.  The main difficulty I can see is for Basic Members who don't have access to Pocket Queries (how can they find these caches without reading each listing?) ... or those who don't know how to use that tool.  Since proximity is usually my biggest limiting factor, thus the main criterion I use in PQs, I actually had to go look to see if I could create a PQ limited by attribute(s).  Yesss!  Whether this gets published or not (and I sincerely hope it does), I've already learned from it.  (GS might actually appreciate the unintentional highlight of that added PM benefit.  :D )

     

    Something I like about Challenges is the different perspective it can give to caching.  "Caching with a purpose" ...  "caching with a focus" ... sort of.  I would love hunting every one of the caches required to qualify, even if I never get to actually get there and sign that log.  In fact, I'm going to do that anyway.  Downloading the PQs to GSAK now.  Cool!

     

    Crossing my fingers for you, BFJ!

  10. 16 hours ago, cerberus1 said:

     

    The downside that we experienced with a series of this type hide, was sometimes they'd be pitched out of the way (looking for a container, not realizing that's it  ;-) and most got stepped on a coupla times.

     - So make 'em as close to (fill in the blank)-proof as you can.     ;)

    Ah, good point; thanks for the insight!

  11. 10 hours ago, kunarion said:

    In the case of the described Nano, I might first try poking some thick packing foam up there so the Nano can only be shoved so far. ....

    Expanding on this idea a bit,  you might try "Great Stuff", which is an insulating spray foam (often used in construction).  A word of caution, though, it expands like crazy, so just a dab will do ya!  They do make one expressly for Doors and Windows, which doesn't expand quite so much.  The original and Doors & Windows products are sort of ivory colored, but they now have a black one, too. 

    10 hours ago, kunarion said:

    ...I tend to over-engineer my caches... ;)

    Same here.  :D

    GreatStuff.jpg

  12. Just another thought: Of course, it again depends on the size of that stick/log ....  Perhaps drill holes all the way through the cavity to allow ventilation, then use wire mesh (screen wire - fiberglass might last longer although it tears more easily) instead of solid metal/plastic to line the cavity (still using construction adhesive/newspaper).  The screen would keep most bugs out and still allow for ventilation.

     

    (Is it obvious yet that I'm liking this setup and thinking about how to build one myself?  :D  With your permission.)

     

     

  13. Agreeing with a couple of suggestions: Definitely make the hole wider.  I know you've spent quite some time drying it out, but you probably need to get it wet again to verify the correct circumference ... or else just make it more than just wide enough.

     

    Lining is a good idea, too.  Construction adhesive (like Liquid Nails) or wood glue would help keeping it in place.  Stuff a bunch of newspaper in the hole to add pressure until it dries.

     

    Not sure how big the log/stick is, or whether the container leaves enough head space, but you could make a plug to fit the top of the hole.  Perhaps attach fishing line between the bottom of the plug and the container.  Perhaps attach fishing line from the top of the plug and near the top of the stick/log ... or maybe just a grab-ring attached with a staple nail (fence staple).

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  14. 17 hours ago, Yells25 said:

    I am rather new to this so maybe I'm missing something.  I found a cache a few weeks ago and logged it on-line.  It was just placed the end of August or beginning of September so it's quite new.  My sis-in-law was visiting so I brought her over to the spot so she could also claim it.  The physical cache is still there so she signed the log but when she tried to log it on-line, it wasn't showing on the map.  I went through my found list but couldn't find it either (can't remember the name of it but I do remember a comment someone else made about it so I looked through their log as well but found nothing).  It doesn't seem to be archived/disabled so I am confused as to where it went.  The location should be the parking lot of the [store name redacted] store [address redacted].  Is this something that happens from time-to-time or should I report this?  Or is there somewhere else I should be looking?  

    I'm reading that your sis-in-law signed the log ... but not that you signed the log.  Perhaps that was just an oversight.  It's rather important, though, as COs can delete online logs that don't have a corresponding signature on the hard-copy log.

     

    And whether or not it's been archived, it can still be logged if the original log was signed.

  15. So it sounds like you (the OP) are asking for opinions about whether or not the second attempt to log as found should be deleted, not about the requirements. Right?

     

    False logging is poor form.  From what you've posted, it sounds like your response, suggesting they at least try to answer the questions, was appropriate.

     

    Logging a second false find encourages the interpretation that they think they're entitled to it, whether they complete the tasks - and whether the CO thinks so - or not.

    You would be doing no one any good by letting the second log stand.  Neither they nor future ECOs with whom they might attempt this maneuver will benefit from their continued misconception that they can log whatever, however they want.  Including a note that they are welcome to log a find when they've attempted to answer all the questions might be nice, but entirely up to you.  Adding a link to the appeals process would give your action the weight of your [perceived] knowledge that your decision would be upheld.  I suspect that they wouldn't take it further ... or they would learn from a "more authoritative" entity that their logs are not in keeping with the spirit of the game.

     

    If they were to log a third time (or more) without at least attempting to answer the questions, that is edging away from simple poor form and closer to bullying/harrassment just to get a smiley, IMHO. Perhaps they wouldn't, but if they did, you might want to explore options other than letting it escalate into a "logging war" of FI, delete; FI, delete. (For example, contact the Reviewer and give him/her a heads-up on the situation.)

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  16. 56 minutes ago, The Jester said:

    Cool, I did look around at nearby caches and the waterfalls were a big plus to stopping by (we drove across Canada a few years ago 'chasing' waterfalls).  We've passed thru NC in the last two years (Kitty Hawk & Blue Ridge Parkway last year and traveling south to Tallahassee this year).  It's on the list for our next time thru.

    Wow; you've covered some ground! 

    I bet you'll be glad you did add Hanging Rock to the itinerary. 

    Safe travels!

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