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  1. I have NEVER checked one of my logs. If someone wants to not play fair and log false finds he is only fooling himself. I'm in the game to enjoy myself and will not become a geo-policeman.

    And personally, of all the cachers I respect (and generally those that have been in the hobby for a while and keep going) are the ones who have the higher level of caching etiquette. i think very few of those cachers are fooled by the cacher who sends themselves valentines flowers.
    Unfortunately, this will continue, but a good example, and passing on the good practices at events and when meeting other cachers, and praising good caching (great logs, trading up, maintaining another cache when possible with logsheets etc.) are all laudable and if we keep up with this, hopefully people will rise to the top, rather than sinking to the bottom.

    The quotes above says it all.

    Signing your own cache as a find is about the same as a false find. OR telling your friends where you have hidden your caches before they published so he can claim a first to find. This has happend before as well.

  2. Anton

    Thanks! That was the tread I started on the neongeo forum Now that I think about it it could be the wifi. I'm offshore at the moment. My phone timezone is West Africa time. Our wifi is satalite based out of the UK so it is differentnt timezone.

    I'll have to wait until I'm off the rig and then try to connect with the phone network.

    Thanks for all the help

  3. I think it was Howard Hughes) built and said that he was going to mine the ocean floor. It was however a CIA cover story so that they could go and salvage a recently sunken Soviet submarine.

    Vryburgers got it correct.

     

    There used to be a cache in Houston called the Jennifer Project that actualy took you to the offices of GSF and to the cross section display of the cable used in the operation. The cache is now archived (I have actualy done the cache)

     

    The story below---

     

    Hughes Glomar Explorer (HGE), as the ship was called at the time, was built between 1973 and 1974, by Sun Shipbuilding and Drydock Co. for more than US$350 million at the direction of Howard Hughes for use by his company, Global Marine Development Inc.[4] She set sail on 20 June 1974. Hughes told the media that the ship's purpose was to extract manganese nodules from the ocean floor. This marine geology cover story became surprisingly influential, spurring many others to examine the idea. But in sworn testimony in United States district court proceedings and in appearances before government agencies, Global Marine executives and others associated with Hughes Glomar Explorer project unanimously maintained that the ship could not be used in any economically viable ocean mineral operation.

    Because K-129 sank in very deep water, a large ship was required for the recovery operation. Such a vessel would easily be spotted by Soviet vessels, which might then interfere with the operation, so an elaborate cover story was developed. The CIA contacted Hughes, who agreed to assist.[5]

     

    While the ship did recover a portion of K-129, a mechanical failure in the grapple caused two-thirds of the recovered section to break off during recovery.[6] This lost section is said to have held many of the most sought items, including the code book and nuclear missiles. It was subsequently reported two nuclear-tipped torpedoes and some cryptographic machines were recovered, along with the bodies of six Soviet submariners, who were given a formal, filmed burial at sea.[7]

    The operation became public in February 1975 when the Los Angeles Times published a story about "Project Jennifer", followed by news stories with additional details in other publications, including The New York Times. However, the true name of the project was not publicly known to be Project Azorian until 2010.

    Red Star Rogue (2005) by Kenneth Sewell makes the claim "Project Jennifer" recovered virtually all of K-129 from the ocean floor.[8][9] Sewell states, "[D]espite an elaborate cover-up and the eventual claim that Project Jennifer had been a failure, most of K-129 and the remains of the crew were, in fact, raised from the bottom of the Pacific and brought into the Glomar Explorer".[

  4. A question for the guys that downloaded NEONGEO

    I just downloaded the app but cannot get it to log into my geocaching.com account. It tells me to check the date and time and try again! How do you check the date and time to see if it is the same as the phone?

  5. It has come to my attention that somebody is advocating that the Geocacher_coza logo belongs to him and that he intends to register the logo.

    I would like to make it clear that the log was designed my myself and WILL always stay my intellectual property. I gave Henri Wally Wallace permission to use the logo after I sold all my geocaching shop stock to him. I also kindly told him at the time that he can use the logo for the shop. NEVER did I sell or give the logo to him. Even before buying my stock he used my logo on some shirts he got made without my permission.

    The logo of geocacher Sa is for all to use and will not be hijacked. I will fight any attempt by someone to register the log as their intellectual property. I will defend the right of MY logo in a court of law using common law practice.

    HENRI, please refrain from claiming rights to my logo and please back off your plans in registering my logo.

     

    Anybody that would like to use the logo on websites, face book etc are free to do so. PM or email me for some of the original copies.

  6. To accept that geocaching should be a non-competitive pastime, and not try to make a life-and-death competition out of it.

    Every time a coconut - whenever there's any stress within the geocaching community, it's to do with being competitive.

     

    If you have a passion to compete with someone else, then go orienteering, or trail running, or play golf, or any other of the myriad highly competitive sports which were designed to be competitive, and have extensive rulebooks which makes them competition compatible. Try to compete at anything which doesn't have very specific and enforcable rules, and you'll have a disaster.....and that, in my opinion, is exactly what's happening here.

     

    Wonder what would happen if we turned game viewing in the Kruger Park into a big competition, and awarded silly badges for rushing around as fast as we can trying to do more, bigger or better than the next game viewer.....?? Wonder how the authorities and other park visitors would like that...??

     

    Again, I say NAY to powertrails, and I also say NAY to the silly badges and anything else that promotes competition between geocachers.

     

    Edited to add:

    Why am I so passionate about opposing this drivel...?? Because I've invested a lot of time, effort, and love for the game into the growth of geocaching in SA, and it breaks my heart to think that newbies will see this as the premier example of how the game works.

     

    Maybe I should move to the Western Cape. They've got it all figured out right - the shipwreck series, and the Simonsberg/Swartkop series are in my opinion perfect examples of powertrails.

    I think Fish Eagle sums this whole PT thing up the best.

     

    I think this poll is meaningless, because I think those pro-PT or part of the planning and executing of the GPS series would be silent in the background, being sad, feeling betrayed by the community. I am. And the sad part is that it only a part of the community that has this effect.

    The poll is not meaningless. It should be a eye opener. Why would you feel betrayed. This is a open forum, forums as per the english dictionary is as follows: a meeting or assembly for the open discussion of subjects of public interest

    So what you see happing here is a nice forum discussion! :laughing:

     

    Also, the beloved Earthcaches (I know I'm treading on hallowed ground here) can be manipulated to be logged as a find if you have the nesessary knowledge. That means I can log all the EC's in the Kruger N Park, KZN, GP, and the rest of Africa all in one day, since they are not allowed to request proof of me actually being at the listed coordinates. Does this mean my smileys mean more, or less than anothers?

    Not true, most earth caches needs some proof that you where at the actual cache location.

  7. This is in reference to my post in another thread.

    I have this concern that geocaching in South Africa, as we know it, is coming to an end. Gone are the days that someone could voice their opinion about the wonderful sport that we all enjoy. It seems like there are a select few that aggressively react to anything said and done that is not according to their own agenda.

    Speaking about agenda.... the select few I'm talking about is slowly but surely starting a takeover bid to ensure that their views and ways of doing things are the only ones that count. You just have to look at the replies to some of the treads in this forum to see that they oppose anything and anybody that is going to stand in their way.

    Even on Facebook they have taken over the Geocaching SA page. A while back someone started another forum page about geocaching for South Africa. He was quickly told that it is not needed and that the only site is the official one and that GOSA does not approve of it. Other people were silenced on the Facebook page by banning them from the page. Hardy a fair way of running the business.

    Below is the quote from the geocacher SA page. It seems like they think that their website that they will have must be the only one. I like the statement "represent Geocachers in South Africa and form part of the mechanism for GoSA - the legal entity of Geocachers of South Africa." The person that posted that statement forgot to say that it only represents a small portion of the cachers out there.

    Hello - Just to let you know that we will be setting up a website that will represent Geocachers in South Africa and form part of the mechanism for GoSA - the legal entity of Geocachers of South Africa. We needed to set up this legal entity for the MEGA Event, but we will not limit it to that. The main thing is to promote geocaching in South Africa and the MEGA will just be one of the tasks.

    Speaking about GOSA.... At first I thought it was a good idea. Then I started digging. Who are these people? Who appointed them? Did every member of geocaching community in South Africa get the chance to vote for representation? No I do not think so. Now they want to force this entity onto us! I feel that whoever signs the constitution should first have been nominated by the entire geocaching community and then we should have all had the opportunity to vote for our preferred candidates. This opportunity was not given to us. As someone else said in another thread,

    but the current format/purpose just does not seem plausable.

    I ask the question to this select few........ Why are you doing this? What is the real reason? Is it personal financial gain or is it just in your nature to bully and be in charge?

    Maybe I missed it but nowhere is the names of all the officials etc. Only one name is mentioned and that is of the Western Cape Representative. May I also asked how this person was voted into power? When asked questions on the GOSA thread the standard answer is-- "send me a PM"

    Then I have a problem with the following in the constitution. The selected few choose them self to be in all the positions of this organization so now they can decide who can become members as well! This is exactly what they doing with the facebook geocaching SA page. Worked themselves into the admin position and when someone gets to vocal against them he is out!

    Conditions and Criteria: The Board of Directors may determine the conditions and criteria for membership. Applications for membership that do not comply with such conditions and criteria may be refused by the Board of Directors.

     

     

    I'm sorry if I'm stepping on a few toes here but someone has to stand up and say something. I for one have had numerous emails from people that feel the same way as me but are not saying it in the open.

    Let's rather use our energy and do some constructive geocaching. Let's get geocaching back to a sport where the whole family can go out and enjoy a good find. Let's teach the fellow cachers the true meaning of geocaching! We have a beautiful country. We have place some of the best cache areas in the world but, no we choose to flood the areas with micros that mean nothing other than getting numbers up.

     

    I stand by my statement and if anybody would like to speak to me personally or get into a dialog about it feel free to send me a PM. Any abuse please keep it here on the tread so that the geocaching community can see what you made off...

  8. At first I thought this was a good idea. I have been for some sort of representing body for a long time..... BUT the more I read and the more I do some checking the more it looks to me like a small group of cachers trying to hijack geocaching in South Africa for their own gain.

    Not good..............

    I see a lot of potential here for such an entity in the geocaching community, but the current format/purpose just does not seem plausable.

    AND please before I get crucified again.... Let me spell it out. The same small group is the only people with the personal attacks and seemingly zero tolerance for other peoples opinions-- I see this on the Facebook geocaching page as well.

  9. Against=12

    For = 9 (posts) only + 7 (cache owners in the GPS and posts) + 24 (cache owners in the GPS) == 40

    Again bending of the facts. Your numbers don't even tally up! How can you count the owners in the GPS and posts and then again the cache owners in the GPS????????

     

    My last post anyway on this matter as we are now going around in circles! I have given my opinion and I'm sticking to it and I do not have to explain to you why I decided I do not like this power trail.

  10. Geocacher_coza, it seems to me that your opinions are a bit biased.

    Firstly they are based on rumours, not facts. Perhaps you should concider withholding your opinion until you could back it with facts?

    Secondly you yourself have 5 or 6 caches disabled or archived, from a total of 16 published, yet you are concerned about how the GPS will be maintained, even making bold statements that within one year 50% will be archived.

    Thirdly, I noticed that you did log a powertrail (for beginners) of 20 caches in May this year, yet you so agressively object to a powertrail in SA. I wonder why...

    First of all, personal attacks are not appreciated. maybe YOU should look at some facts.

    First it is facts, or are you saying BruceTP and other are lying??????

    Second the caches archived is for the precise reason why I say it should not be done. At least when i could not get to my caches I archived them. And it is not six by the way. Maybe you should learn to count first. AND I stick to my statement.

    The 20 I did in May is a total different series. It is constructive caches. Maybe you should look first and then comment. AND it was placed by a single person. Each with a unique container and hide to teach people how geocaching is done. Maybe guys like you can learn something from the lady that placed them. This power trail of SA is just to teach us how to bend figures, and a lot of junk places in nature. Nothing constructive, nothing to learn, very little to see.

    Geocacher_coza, it seems to me that your opinions are a bit biased.

    What ever.... as I am entitled to my opinion that is according to you biased you are entitled to yours. I did not expect everybody to like what I wrote anyway. At least I have the B.......S to say it!This is a sad day for geocaching in South Africa. Faceless people on the internet attacking someone elses opinions.......

  11. Reading BruceTP log makes me wonder why people is upset because some of us shoot down this ridiculous power trail.

    1. Logs in pristine shape and not even on at the correct location. (Where there is smoke, there is fire.)

    2. Anomalies where there was only one signature dated 23/7 on the log, indicating that this was not a replacement log sheet, but 10 finds on GC. (Where there is smoke, there is fire.)

    3. Farmer getting upset because you at his fencepost! As per the rules of geocaching you should ask permission to place a cache and if the farmer is getting upset it means he does not know about it. (Where there is smoke, there is fire.)

    4. The containers were irreparably damaged. (Where there is smoke, there is fire.)

  12. Reading the posts in this forum reminded me why I do not partake in the forums, it would seem that it is a place where people complain, moan and make accusations without having any facts.

     

    Bremar Josrut - Why do you not contact one of the cache owners and ask them about the facts and how they will maintain their caches? Do you know how many cachers took part in putting the GPS together?

    Loen St, if you feel so strongly about the statement above, why dont you tell us the facts?

     

    Wazat - You are implying that I lie when I log caches, on a public forum.disappointedinted

     

    You know, in Afrikaans there are a few sayings that sums stuff like this up ---

    Waar daar 'n rokie is is is daar 'n vuurtjie. For the souties out there it means that is there are rumors, the rumours are normally normaly true! I have heard a lot of romours about the FTF from some credible people so YES, I feel the same as WAZAT.

    SAD DAY FOR CACHING IN SOUTH AFRICA

  13. This should have never been allowed.

    It is not geocaching, it is just getting numbers. You just have to look at the suspicious first to finds to know this is bull.....

    I would like to see how these caches will be maintained. I will go on record and say that within a year 50% OF THESE CACHES WILL BE ARCHIVED

    A cache should take you interesting places,show you something new, make you work to find it. It should not be a nano just plac anywhere to get some numbers.

    I think Cape Doc caption at the bottom of his page sums up how a cache should be placed---

    Good listing + Interesting hide + Awesome location = Great Cache

    If you wouldn't make it a Favourite....why place it?

    This power trail caches can have a caption something like this----- horrible listing + horrible hides + horrible location = Horrible Caches

  14. The Julian calendar began in 45 BC (709 AUC) as a reform of the Roman calendar by Julius Caesar. It was chosen after consultation with the astronomer Sosigenes of Alexandria and was probably designed to approximate the tropical year (known at least since Hipparchus).

    The Julian calendar has a regular year of 365 days divided into 12 months with a leap day added to February every four years. The Julian year is, therefore, on average 365.25 days long. The motivation for most calendars is to fix the number of days between return of the cycle of seasons (from Spring equinox to the next Spring equinox, for example), so that the calendar could be used as an aid to planting and other season-related activities. The cycle of seasons (tropical year) had been known since ancient times to be about 365 and 1/4 days long.

    The more modern Gregorian calendar eventually superseded the Julian calendar: the reason is that a tropical year (or solar year) is actually about 11 minutes shorter than 365.25 days. These extra 11 minutes per year in the Julian calendar caused it to gain about three days every four centuries, when compared to the observed equinox times and the seasons. In the Gregorian calendar system, first proposed in the 16th century, this problem was dealt with by dropping some calendar days, in order to realign the calendar and the equinox times. Subsequently, the Gregorian calendar drops three leap year days across every four centuries.

     

    The Julian calendar is still used by the Berber people of North Africa, and on Mount Athos. Mount Athos is a mountain and peninsula in Macedonia, Greece. A World Heritage Site, it is home to 20 Eastern Orthodox monasteries and forms a self-governed monastic state within the sovereignty of the Hellenic Republic. Spiritually, Mount Athos comes under the direct jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople. Today Greeks commonly refer to Mount Athos as the "Holy Mountain"

     

    Someone else can ask the next question

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