CheekyBrit
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45 minutes ago, Viajero Perdido said:
(Photo slightly embellished; weather not as shown.)
lightning is so hard to catch, photo embellishing is understood. Those seemed like gnarly locations even before the lightning came rolling in.
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I have helped tangent this thread into the favorite points rabbit hole. A fascinating topic that has been had elsewhere and even further complicated by many great caches not getting visitors and in turn, no favorite points, like remote mountainous caches or boat required ones... GAH I digress again.
Back to competing areas against one another and bettering your own county as best you can,
We haven't considered attribute chart filling yet.
I have put out the only wireless beacon cache Bannock County has ever known, as well as a handful of the only rock climbing equipment caches. Scuba is on my list but it is hard to find a sustainable, non draining by August location. There are no scuba caches anywhere near us and that is the only wireless beacon cache I can find for several counties.
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We're looking for intense, exposed, dangerous, scary or otherwise impressively high rated terrain photographs. If you'd preface showing the photo with 'you'll never believe this', it probably belongs here.
Scrambling down in to the rift in the cliff to find the letterbox and spot the easter island worthy formation. GC8CDYH Face of the Mountain
Entering a slot canyon for GC9H5DD 'Lurch canyon - Star Wars episode IX part 2'
About to rappel into narrow fissure 2-3' wide, 30' deep. GC9H56R 'Sinking fields - Star Wars episode IX part 3'
Haystack mountain GC1ZZJQ - Just don't bother approaching from the west like I did, it is daft steep and loose with guardian cliff bands.
Rappelling down GC8KK1J Leap of Faith, a tidy little 30' rappel.
The insane 100'+ cliffs of Howard Mountain GC8CX8M Quarder dose of vertigo
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Haystack mountain in Bannock County Idaho - easily the steepest mountaineering climb I've done without harnessing up. This is overlooking Marsh Valley with Old Tom mountain and Scout Mountain across the other side. Up valley out of shot is Pocatello, Inkom, and Pebble Creek ski resort.
Edit: GC1ZZJQ Haystack mountain
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14 hours ago, Lynx Humble said:
You meant 8,13 FP/cache
You got me.
Sadly I don't yet know of an efficient way to mass obtain the number of finds per county. Until then, favorite points per cache is the best we have. But certainly, favorite points per find is THE golden metric and that would have an absolute cap of 100%
Favorite points in an area / total number of caches in that same area has no upper bound limit. This is a very aggregate way of looking at things and isn't quite the full package stat we're looking for.
On a totally different note, you used a comma in 8,13 instead of a decimal point - that is so cool. Is that a mainland Europe thing? I know there are a lot of cultural variations in numbers, even algebraic numbers and it is cool to come upon an example. Being from one area and living in another I get all kinds of mixed up and sometimes forget what is British and what is American. -
On 10/19/2021 at 4:28 PM, CAVinoGal said:
I admire your ambition!
I like to go big, mostly because you hide what you like and I like when other people go big. You should see some of the bonkers caches I've done. Quite a few rock climbing / rappelling ones.
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On 10/19/2021 at 10:48 AM, Moun10Bike said:
How about favorites per cache as a metric (rather than just total favorites)?
That, is a fantastic question.
Here is what I drummed up for the counties in Idaho:County # hides # Favorite points Favorite % Nez Perce 270 2195 812.96% Ada 1647 9314 565.51% Fremont 213 1061 498.12% Boundary 151 742 491.39% Minidoka 65 318 489.23% Clark 35 163 465.71% Canyon 683 2847 416.84% Shoshone 222 914 411.71% Kootenai 1286 5287 411.12% Bonner 620 2518 406.13% Teton 62 244 393.55% Butte 276 980 355.07% Latah 290 1024 353.10% Bannock 495 1742 351.92% Twin Falls 984 3241 329.37% Madison 135 419 310.37% Idaho 289 857 296.54% Bonneville 537 1547 288.08% Bear Lake 133 363 272.93% Power 218 575 263.76% Oneida 230 594 258.26% Lemhi 67 171 255.22% Elmore 1352 3044 225.15% Benewah 76 171 225.00% Clearwater 169 376 222.49% Valley 320 645 201.56% Payette 131 257 196.18% Blaine 308 559 181.49% Custer 235 425 180.85% Franklin 133 233 175.19% Jerome 450 772 171.56% Bingham 722 1205 166.90% Adams 123 205 166.67% Cassia 372 601 161.56% Caribou 253 382 150.99% Jefferson 94 133 141.49% Gooding 359 406 113.09% Boise 524 575 109.73% Lewis 64 66 103.13% Owyhee 2302 1762 76.54% Gem 497 354 71.23% Washington 415 213 51.33% Lincoln 382 172 45.03% Camas 168 72 42.86% 
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All of the multi caches in the flag geo-art will have a physical container at posted coordinates including something that relates to the puzzle on the cache page (track numbers from albums, names of British monarchs in line of succession, countries in the British commonwealth picked from a list...) and then the puzzle reveals the final coordinates.
I DO have a multi cache that has a "virtual" first stage, but it is listed as such because I didn't place anything there. Instead, numbers from a sign are sought at the location and you need to visit it (google street view doesn't reach the sign in question).
So hopefully through personal example that clarifies the regulation of needing to visit the first location if it is a multi cache (geo-art or not) and it can be a virtual stage if needs be.
Great conversation here. It seems like everyone is trying their best to follow the guidelines and keep the game going. If only non-geocaching conversations could be as civil.-
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I forgot to mention, another county project I'm working on is making every hidden date available in Bannock County. This'll help locals fill their charts.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 J 0 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 F 2 2 2 0 2 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 M 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 A 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 M 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 J 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 J 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 A 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 S 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 O 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 N 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 D 2 0 0 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 0 2 The red squares are hidden dates not available in Bannock county OR any of the surrounding counties. There used to be a list of 34 of those dates but I've been chipping away at it. Almost all of my caches have been deployed on days that needed a cache. It is hard to fill the Christmas window since I'm almost always holidaying out of state with family, but I'm working on the rest of the calendar. Again, I'm making sure not to sacrifice quality for quantity.
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This topic is about geo-anthropomorphizing counties. Finding the county with the most hides, most finds, most favorite points, most D/T loops... I have been competing on behalf of my county against other counties. This is quite a passive set of games to play, but it motivates me to put out high quality caches that bring in people and favorite points. This is almost completely powered by the stat crunching of project-gc.com within their
Sidenote: Geocaching is fun on its own and getting competitive on the numbers game isn't necessary. But I'm a nerd and love numbers, so for the sake of curiosity, here we go.
Breaking it down into separate games:
Most caches https://project-gc.com/Statistics/CachesPerArea?country=United+States®ion=Idaho&submit=Filter
The caches per area is easy to influence, but I don't focus on this one too hard - quality over quantity and all. But look how Bannock county only needs 3 more to beat Gen county and snag rank 11. Juicy stuff.
If you want, you can get nitty gritty stats and look at which county had the most hidden within them each year (or any date range for that matter).
Most favorite points can be found fairly easily within the FP per area tab. It'd be pretty cool to compare against all 3143 counties but that takes a bit more compiling than I'm ready to do.
D/T loops: It was a goal of mine to make the whole fizzy chart available in Bannock County Idaho where I live and I finally accomplished that (genuine ratings). There aren't too many counties that have a full fizzy. It is hard to compute and figure D/T coverage for counties; if you run a username with few finds through map D/T matrix then individually check the D/T's not shown you get a good idea. Below is Ada county, the best in Idaho in almost every metric.
Finds per county eludes me at the moment. I could make a separate bookmark list for each county and then look at logs over time and chart them against each other possibly...
So whaddayathink? Am I the only one who geeks out over these county vs county numbers?-
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Bannock county, Idaho here, including up to October 19th 2021:
Year # hidden rank in Idaho Hidden by me 2000 1 1 2001 0 0 2002 3 18 2003 5 20 2004 7 16 2005 12 11 2006 18 8 2007 24 6 2008 38 5 2009 30 9 2010 25 18 2011 23 23 2012 18 26 2013 51 7 2014 27 11 2015 19 12 2016 20 8 2017 8 12 2018 8 13 2019 44 3 32 2020 75 4 12 2021 31 8 9 
Since the info was up on screen within project-gc, I included what rank Bannock county scored out of the 44 Idaho counties in terms of who hid the most.
Power trails change everything. In 2020, most of those caches are a power trail added by mudbloods. Similarly, The League of ID Cachers dropped a beast of a power trail in 2012 making Owyhee County's count 1726 hidden that year alone. It is not a metro area.
So in response to the original question, yeah geocache is starting to decline a little bit, but at least in Bannock county, a few geocachers and I are reviving it. Almost half my caches now are CITOs and events, which don't show here. Archived caches are excluded but disabled are included. -
Street view is an awesome feature on google maps but can compromise certain types of geocache a little bit.
I have a few teamwork multi caches across countries where you need to find a virtual stage in the form of numbers on a sign and we were quite limited in what signs we could pick since street view is prevalent. We ended up mostly going to disc golf courses. Elsewise someone could solve these international teamwork caches without teamwork and without leaving their country.
That is a rare exception though, typically street view poses no threat and just helps people research an area before they travel there to cache. It would be a pretty cool feature.-
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There is so much that has to line up for high level geocachers like Mondou2 to have such numbers - the time, the skill, the patience, but most of all the access to travel. Well done. I'm happy just plodding along on my 1 cache a day streak trying to ration out what is near me. I don't know if I'll ever break 5 digits of caches but like you said, everyone has fun in their own way in this game. It is quite diverse.
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I have plans to make a geoart of the British flag. It'd be made of 72 multi caches of various puzzle types, and 44 challenge caches. That's a grand total of 188 containers, including 116 final containers with logs.
Before I go bonkers getting all the materials for this, do any of you see any HQ opposition to a flag geo-art? I'm in the USA by the way.....
Someone is welcome to do a USA flag but it'd take several hundred caches to make it look right.-
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On 9/22/2021 at 7:23 PM, CAVinoGal said:
I can still see my Benchmark count (and yours if I go to your profile). Click on Profile, then the Geocaches tab - the number is still there. If you click on Benchmarks, it gives a list of allyour logged benchmarks.
Right you are, CAVinoGal.
I thought I had a handful of benchmarks that weren't NGS bench mark disks - I don't see them on the profile page. I wonder what is going on there. -
UPDATE: It looks like this stat has been removed from the geocaching.com 'your statistics' page. I cannot seem to find it on project-gc either. Any thoughts where to find benchmark count in 2021?
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I know streaks with conditions are no longer allowed, BUT....
What about a calendar streak with conditions? So you can use dates from any year all contributing to your streak of dates on the calendar.
So a 3 day multi streak could be Jan 1st 2020, Jan 2nd 2014, and Jan 3rd 2021...
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I had a handful of lat/long based challenges i tried to do that were yahtzee themed, or based on other card/dice games, using just the minutes, but it wouldn't work with the challenge restrictions.
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My quickest puzzles took a month and about 20 hours of design, playtesting, and fine tuning each:
GC8CEZH Geography hidden in geometry
Gears at work snuck through beta testing, multiple playtesters, and a handful of solvers with an unknown error. A finder spotted it and I corrected the original image.
On the longer end are some puzzles that have taken over a year and countless hours.
The 'planet teamwork' series i've built take so long because of finding and working with a teammate cache owner in another country.
Though, "Murder Mystery/Clue" GC87D6C also took over a year. It is a series of 12 panoramic views from the various characters inside a real university building with public access. Designing the puzzle, where each person should be, capturing the panoramic photos, and photo editing, all took well over 2 years. You can solve the puzzle from your armchair.
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Love it. I would see 'strewn garbage' as an ongoing invite to CITO with each visit.
There is a trail near me (Lead draw) with a cache half way up that mountain that is strewn with bullet shells, improvised targets, and trash. Otherwise, Indian mountain and 'base camp' cache are in beautiful areas. -
There are some challenge caches that have taken a LONG time to qualify for, like 'longest streak vs longest slump' or GC554KE BANANAS AT LARGE - 30 DAY CHALLANGE CACHE (30 counties in 30 days). But I get the vibe challenges are not what you are thinking of.
I have a few that took a lot of planning since they needed climbing gear and were up a mountain but the trip itself was only half a day.
I had a multi cache that took me 8 visits. Several stages were missing as well as originally being in superb hiding spots. Took about 2 weeks for time for the CO to replace. Great guy. -
DO IT!!!!!! River island caches are awesome. I've found 5 or so and loved them all. I used white water rafts, hard shell sit in kayaks, and inflatable kayaks on different occasions, depending what was to hand.
There is one in town near me that is an island for part of the year and you can walk to during low flow seasons. The cache owner had it as T2 but switched it to T5 because people were kayaking there or swimming there a fair bit. -
400! ?????
You're on fire. Keep it up Spudyr! That was a fast jump from 300.
Dumb thought: Being a bit of a geek, at first I read that as 400 factorial, which is 6.403 x 10^868
With 22 million or so seconds in your life, that is still over a googol geocaches per second your entire life. Impressive.-
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Geocache adopter changing d/t levels
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I am one of those less worthy types that can't get my head away from stats; i love them. About 1/3 of my geocaches are to help people fill their fizzy grid, though I try to make the difficulty and terrain truly up to expectations. I have a fair few tree climbing, cave crawling, rock climbing, rappelling, and mountaineering geocaches to justify the ratings, and my puzzles leave some stumped. I know that is far from what you're talking about with skirt lifters being rated 5T, but I had to confess to building geocaches with grid filling in mind.