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    Iowa Geocoin

    in Trackables

    Posted

    Hey CacheDragons......

     

    Is this coin gonna be an I.G.O. coin, or is it your own personal coin? Just curious 'cuz I usually check in on the IGO forums and your post here was the first I'd heard of an Iowa coin. :ph34r:

     

    At any rate, I'd be interested in 4, possibly more once I see the final product.

     

    But for sure 4 if they remain gc.com trackable.

     

    Jeff

    Oifga Coin

    in Trackables

    Posted

    combat veteran here....operations desert shield and storm.

     

    11Bravo

    US Army

    1st Armored Division

     

    Please put me down for a gold coin, and if a silver becomes available i would like one of those too, but if not then no worries here.

     

    I can provide copy of DD214 if necessary.

     

    Thanks,

    Jeff

    New York Geocoin Order Info

    in Trackables

    Posted

    I just started to collect geocoins, and would like to be placed on a waiting list for one if possible (not greedy, only want one for myself). Thanks for making a really cool looking coin, and for making it trackable on gc.com to boot!

     

    Jeff

    2005 Ohio Coins

    in Trackables

    Posted

    I just found out about all these personal and trackable geocoins about a week ago (thanks Mike). WOW, been caching for a little over 2 years now and all this time I only thought there were the USA geocoins and the Moun10Bike coins. I gotta read the forums more often!!! :laughing:

     

    Would love to get my hands on an unregistered 2005 Ohio coin, but I've just started collecting geocoins. So I don't have any to trade. I'd be willing to buy one from someone who has an extra. Could do it paypal style, nice and easy.

     

    Just let me know if anyone out there is interested.

     

    Thanks,

    Jeff

    Kids Geocoin

    in Northwest

    Posted

    would love 4 of the metal ones, and I'll get the paypal sent tonight (as soon as my wife gets home and let me know her paypal password ;) )

     

    Oh, i'd like 2 silver and 2 gold please

    Why Do They Have To Leave?

    in Getting Started with Waymarking (Read-Only)

    Posted · Edited by Barthonis

    The idea seems to be to relocate the non-container items from Geocaching, to the more suitable Waymarking.

     

    That does not change the enjoyment level at all.

     

    Yes it does for those of us with no interest in going over to the Waymarking.com website. Just because you may want to play the waymark game, does not mean there aren't others that want nothing to do with it.

     

    Finding a Waymark is exactly the same as finding a Virtual.

     

    Not really, different site, different categories, different "approvers", different set of rules...in a word...different.

     

    Some people are trying to term things to suggest that Waymarking is not Geocaching..

     

    That is true, but it helps to explain ideas, when there is a referrence point.

     

    You're right there.....Waymarking is NOT geocaching...

     

    So, when the Virtuals are converted to Waymarks, people can list even more, and some of the really good ones that wouldn't get approved on the Geocaching site, can be listed here.

     

    chances are....if the virtuals were really good ones, then they were already approved for geocaching....hence the restrictions on virtuals the last couple years. Sure, I'll admit there are some lame virts out there, but the vast majority I've found so far (and yes I've even submitted one for approval and gotten turned down) have been very good and would not have been able to have had a physical container placed nearby.

     

    It really is a benefit to those that like Virtuals, to have them instead as Waymarks... more variety, easier to list, and easier to classify.

     

    Who could ask for more?

     

    The problem is, those of us that want virts to stay on geocaching aren't asking for more, we're asking for those caches to remain where they are currently. It's a benefit for you and the others on Waymarking to have them moved over there, but for those of us who want them to remain on geocaching, it is anything but a benefit.

     

    Virtuals are rising from the flames, reborn as Waymarks. Enjoy the new game, as it will be better than before.

     

    A hopeful assumption IMHO. The request is simply if you're going to strip geocaching of the locationlesses, then please leave the current virtuals here to stay. Afterall, they do have a physical location at the end of the hunt, and a means of verification that you've been there, which is all the paper logbook in a physical cache is for.

     

    Jeff

    Why Do They Have To Leave?

    in Getting Started with Waymarking (Read-Only)

    Posted

    It wouldn't make any sense to leave some virts on this site and move some virts to Waymarking. Think of how hard it would be for people to search for nearby virts with that arrangement.

     

    Not hard at all, you search for nearby caches the same as always, and you go to WM.com to search for nearby waypoints.....and if the ideas of adding a link to the cache page for "nearest waymarks" is implemented, then it is even easier yet.

     

    Also, it doesn't make any sense to leave virts here but not allow new ones. Many of the angst-filled threads are because virts aren't approved often enough. If they were banned entirely there would be even more complaints.

     

    It makes alot of sense actually. Nearly everyday, laws are made that include "grandfather clauses". From this day on, the new law/ordinance/whatever is now this, but if you already have the old stuff, you are allowed to be "grandfathered in". The caches that are on GC.com are simply allowed to be grandfathered, and all new locationless and virts, etc will have to be submitted thru WM.com. Simple. No moritorium for years then all of a sudden yank them.....you instead announce the end of new locationlesses and virts on GC.com and also announce the opening of WM.com. Simple.

     

    The best solution? Submit as many virts as you want on Waymarking.com. No "WOW!" factor, no getting in the way of geocaches, etc. There's probably even a new server to run it all so the geocaching one can focus on caches only.

     

    I respect your right to an opinion, but I disagree entirely. The best solution, in my opinion, is to leave the existing locationlesses and virts, etc on GC.com and begin all new caches of that type on WM.com.

     

    I hope that Jeremy has not closed his decision making on this topic. I'm offering up a solution that I believe will please alot more of the general geocaching population and create less angst/stress/bad feelings. I have discussed this with other local geocachers in my town and many are of similar feelings that they enjoy the virts/locationlesses and would like them to remain on GC.com. I hope that Jeremy will give this some additional consideration.

     

    Jeff

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    Why Do They Have To Leave?

    in Getting Started with Waymarking (Read-Only)

    Posted

    Just an open letter/post to Jeremy and TPTB (which is pretty much Jeremy I guess :anitongue: )......

     

    Why do the locationless caches, virts and any other "no-box-of-goodies-at-the-end-of-the-cache" caches HAVE to leave GC.com for WM.com? What does it hurt to leave them up on GC.com for those of us that like hunting them? You can just issue an announcement that no new virts will be allowed on GC.com and that the loctionlesses and virts that are active now will be left for our logging enjoyment and that any new virtuals/earthcaches/locationlesses will need to be submitted through WM.com. The cache owners that want to have their caches stay on GC.com could also list them at WM.com or archive their GC.com and only list it with WM.com or whatever they want to do.

     

    I'm not trying to be a pain in the arse here, I just really would like to know why they cannot stay on GC.com and also be on WM.com if the cache owners choose to put them there.

     

    And as to the posts I've seen on other threads about the big headache with virts was that the volunteer reviewers were getting hate mail from rejected cache submissions......well, lets get real. A part of the job when you get some authority is that there are some really stupid people out there that you'll offend. Nothing you can do about it. And if they are sending you actual hate-mail...ie, "I know where you live" kinda crap like someone posted, then you ban the offending jerk and move on with your life. I've been in management for quite some time, and there are plenty of jerks out there. If you can't let dumb stuff roll off your back like water on a duck...then maybe you should volunteer for something a bit less stressful. A bit harsh, maybe....but dumb emails like that are just a delete/ban button away. And if you just place a cap on them here at GC.com and tell people that new virts and loctionlesses will have to go through the new site, then that eliminates the source of that problem as well. And those of us that have no desire to use WM.com can still cache for virts and the few remaining locationlesses still active. Everybody wins.

     

    I'd like to hear your thoughts on this solution, please.

     

    Jeff

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