Pocileh

Nice and all kind of different stories and I'll add mine. I'm afraid mine just 'surfaced' about ten years ago. At that time I was based for about 6 months in Penticton (Canada) to undergo a conversion at the training School of Canadian Helicopters. At that time it was not as easy as it is now to keep in contact with the family in the Netherlands. Best way to do that at that time was by email (using a telephone modem...remember those old days? ) So I opened an account at Telus(?) and tried to find myself an nice nickname. Flying a heli(copter) and being a ... connecting those two words and using them backwards my nickname appeared. When I started geocaching I decided to use that nick. My avatar is a golfball. Why? Because a (golf)ball has very poor aerodynamic characteristics. To improve its behaviour they put all those little 'dents' in its surface. A helicopter by itselfs has also very bad aerodynamic characteristics is only able to fly because of all kind of aerodynamic tricks and because I didn't want 'a' helicopter in my avatar I decided to use the golfball. Cheers,

Was just looking at these pages to see what is happening. Looking at the postings 101 through 121 I noticed that DFX, Nebias and Knowschad were showing the right avatars. DanPan(every posting) is showing mine (Pocileh), Moun10bike is showing Nebias for all his postings. When I was browsing the Dutch forum, belonging to geocaching.nl, not part of this forum, via the laptop (windows7, IE8) used by my wife, I noticed two instances where banners, being loaded from .....http://img.geocaching.com/stats/img.aspx?txt=..., were loaded very slowly. At least one of the banners was a wrong one. This was solved after a page refresh where the images were loading in a flash. So to me it defenately looks as if the problem is directly related to the image servers. Cheers,

I wonder or there is any update on this persistent problem? Cheers,

My ISP is XS4All if that matters. And if the ISP is caching why does the page load quickly and correctly sometimes and not allways? Then you would expect the same behaviour every time. And then - like the remark Technetium made - why only when on the GS and GC domains. Don't know or it's of any importance, but Ziggo as well as XS4All are providers in the Netherlands. XS4All is available virtually everywhere and Ziggo in about half the Netherlands. Cheers,

FWIW: I'm on ADSL-connection 8Mb down/ 1Mb up. There are two more computers connected to this line, but in general they are switched off. I only have this problem when visiting the GS-site. I'm a subscribed member of 9 fora (GS is one of them). Another thing I noticed today and yesterday (and probably was happening before without me noticing it) is that, when the browser is waiting for images to load, it's allways waiting for 4 or 5 images to be downloaded, never 1 or 2 or 6 or more. And when they load they finally load in a flash, because all I see is a message like : "downloading 5 images: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/....." staying visible for 1 to 2 minutes (sometimes even longer) and then the message disappears and the images are visable. So it's not counting down like 5 after a few seconds 4, 3, 2 and so on. Regards,

And the question is........? So far I've not seen any questions asked by GS regarding this matter, other than general information like O/S, browser being used, but nothing to pinpoint the problem. JHolly has made some remarks and I think he's knowledgeable ( I know him from other fora as well) but this has been turned down as being just guessing and speculation... So again: And the question is........? So we can help you to tackle this problem. Regards,

Surely, it should be SUBMITTED then. No, that's not how it works. We don't enter issues into the bug database without repro steps. That, however, does not mean that the team is not aware of the issue and investigating. Maybe Groundspeak should be more open about what it's doing!! This is - as far as I know - the first real indication that the team is undertaking real action. All I've read so far is that GS has not been able to reproduce the problem. As far as I understand GS is a commercial institute and we are paying customers. So may we expect GS to respond to our problem in an open and explaining way? This is not a cosy chat forum, part of a group of friends. If you are in need of more info....I've tried to provide information as good as possible. That was declined by you by saying that info was of no use. Other member have reported that it's only the GS site that is affected and I - being member of quite some forums - can only say they are right. So far I've not seen any info from GS as how we can provide the necessary info. You should give us info about the kind of info you need to solve this annoying and confusing matter instead of letting us in the dark.

When talking about what could cause this mixing up of images on a page at the users side, I have to emphasise that I'm not the only one experiencing this phenoma. Maybe I'm in the focus at the moment, but I'm certainly not the only one having this issue. Recently nothing has been altered in my system, except a regular update of my O/S (Window Vista) and browser (Internet Explorer). And the problem was showing before my most recent update. Furtermore I cannot find any relation between having the browsercache cleaned or not. But....I've mentioned it before....every time the page gets messed up the browser has been waiting for images to be downloaded.....and that can take quite some time. I've timed it and found delays as big as 2 minutes and 13 seconds to download the page completely. In that case the bulk of the page is loaded fairly quickly..2-3 seconds but with open spaces for the images to be displayed. The images affected are not necessarely just avatars. Also images in the postings themselves are/can be affected. When the page loads in a flash, there can be a faulty image, but in general the page is loaded correctly, without a single fault. I assumed I was contributing to finding a solution by posting screenshots and posting links for the images showing in those screenshots, but now I understand that this is of no value. So I'll refrain from doing that. My thinking was that 1 picture is showing much more than many words can tell....... If there is anything else I can do and Groundspeak appreciates my contribution, please let me know. Regards

Just a note in case someone is looks into this trying to solve the matter: Don't know or it's of any importance and I've mentioned it before, but in case it's missed.... If I load a page and it loads in a flash, the page will be without any faults. But sometimes it takes ages (1 minute, 2 minutes (?)) for the page to load completely. What happens then is that there are open spaces were images are supposed to be and the browser is telling there are one or more images to be loaded and is waiting for them to be downloaded. Then, once these images are loaded, they generally are the wrong images. This can happen with the browsercache cleared before opening the page as well without having cleared the cache. Edit: This is how the avatar of Ambient Skater is showing after I posted this message for the first time (before this edit): The Link: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/bbae6b76-decc-4eee-922c-049d9f206c0c.jpg Regards,

After having posted my two previous postings, I think I now know how Downy228's posting should look like: Link for his Avatar: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/bad7a078-aaf5-4f46-8125-4a1762312782.jpg Link for the image in his posting: http://img.geocaching.com/cache/75b60e43-d962-4309-8664-a1dfbf847911.jpg?rnd=0.7532718 Regards,

And this is my screendump of the same area I'm showing in my previous posting but after having posted. The link for Downys avatar: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/bad7a078-aaf5-4f46-8125-4a1762312782.jpg For the image in his posting: http://img.geocaching.com/cache/75b60e43-d962-4309-8664-a1dfbf847911.jpg?rnd=0.7532718 Knowschad: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/b7957b4c-ced3-416d-85b9-8965dc464809.jpg Image in the quoted area in his posting: http://img.geocaching.com/cache/75b60e43-d962-4309-8664-a1dfbf847911.jpg?rnd=0.7532718 Hope all this is of some help, wished more members were contributing. I've posted about this in the Dutch forum. Got only one response and that one said more ore less: "Not interested in responding because there are more matters going on and Groundspeak is not undertaking any action at all, so why bother". Doesn't sound good! Regards,

Hi all, allthough I was a bit frustrated yesterday (now it's a new, sunny day over here ) I think the only way to get rid of this annoying problem is to contribute as much info as possible. So here's my todays contribution. After clearing the browsercache I went back to this thread to find out about the newest contributions. A total of 34 contributions...three added while I was sound asleep This is the screenshot of the last two postings, made by Downy288 and Knowschad. I don't know or Downeys avatar is what it's supposed to be as I don't know his avatar, but I'm quite sure the picture in his posting is not what it's supposed to be. The link for his avatar is: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/bad7a078-aaf5-4f46-8125-4a1762312782.jpg For the picture in his posting it's: http://img.geocaching.com/cache/75b60e43-d962-4309-8664-a1dfbf847911.jpg?rnd=0.7532718 The link for 'Knowchads' avatar (actually mine) is: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/b7957b4c-ced3-416d-85b9-8965dc464809.jpg The link for the picture shown in the quote is identical to the one in Downys posting: http://img.geocaching.com/cache/75b60e43-d962-4309-8664-a1dfbf847911.jpg?rnd=0.7532718 Looking at the avatars in all the 34 postings above, 16 of them were showing a wrong avatar. Note: My writing and expression may be a 'bit' clumsy here and there, but English is not my native language (I'm Dutch), so if I'm writing things that may sound harsh or rude to you, that really is not my intention. Have fun,

One more example, taken from this page some minutes ago: Link for Viajero Perdido's avatar: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/74a78440-7044-4c83-ad2d-4517220d4624.jpg Link for Davequal's avatar http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/916784f1-de48-4b8c-9a1e-9acce3efbab3.jpg Who is who? Regards,

Only thing I can say to it is that, if my browser tells me it's waiting for a number of images to be downloaded (can be one, can be ?? and anything inbetween) and it takes longer than a few seconds, things get scr**ed up. From the links you can see that images often have the same link but are different. Sometimes the pages are loading correctly, sometimes they are way off. Refresh them and it can be the opposite. I'm not a computernerd so I might be completely wrong here, but I think there is something going on with a database getting corrupted or something like that. So it's just a matter of (bad) luck what is going to be showing up, the right image or not. What I've been posting before is only a small selection of all the weird things I've seen. From a totally correct page to a fully messed up one. This is very very annoying, especially in cases like the last one I posted. You no longer can be sure or what you are seeing is how it is supposed to be. And that is a situation that should be avoided. I would like to get a some answer from Groundspeak about what is going to happen. So far I've only seen Moun10bikes answer However this is not giving away any clue or this complaint is (already) under investigation or not. I do not intend to be rude here so I apologize if it sounds that way but to me - and I hope it is not intended that way - that answer sounds like: 'There is a strange thing happening but there are not enough complaints, so live with it. And because someone else has been programming this, even if we found the problem, it's too much effort to solve it'. Regards,

This is what I'm seeing right now: The link related to the avatar: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/938830d2-3635-42a8-8fa7-0c6b9953ce13.jpg Edit: After sending this posting something weird happened. As you can see from my screenshot above, the image is not what Doublebent really posted....a screenshot of the TB section in his profile. This image showed up after I posted what I was seeing (in my first)screenshot including a wrong avatar for DoubleBent. Now his avatar is also the right one and the linkfor it was: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/938830d2-3635-42a8-8fa7-0c6b9953ce13.jpg Regards,

Wel, I then have another one for you,screendump taken a few minutes ago after (again clearing the browsercache) : in this case the link for 'moun10bike's ' avatar is: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/598c0637-72ea-48a5-aaac-e06b0754a595.jpg And for Knowschad's (His new and real avatar!) it's: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/10435aa2-3068-46c6-bbaa-d0e071c4e0c7.jpg At the same time, a bit further up the page: In this case the link for Moun10bike is: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/598c0637-72ea-48a5-aaac-e06b0754a595.jpg have fun,

So, after spending some hours asleep, a new day,fired up the computer, started up Internet Explorer, emptied the cache just to make sure, and went back to this page to see what happened in those hours. No new postings, but yes, a new surprise. Knowschad has a new avatar, I've never seen before: The link showing under properties for this avatar now showing for Knowschad is: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/10435aa2-3068-46c6-bbaa-d0e071c4e0c7.jpg And Moun10bike is showing my avatar again, the link is identical to the one I posted yesterday: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/598c0637-72ea-48a5-aaac-e06b0754a595.jpg Hope this is of some help. Or is Groundspeak not looking into this matter? Regards,

Tot voor kort gebruikte ik als avatar de afbeelding van een golfbal zonder mijn nickname. Toen ik een tijd geleden ontdekte dat 'n andere cacher kennelijk exact dezelfde afbeelding gebruikte, kon ik me er niet druk om maken. Ik dacht dat dat puur toeval was. Tot ik een paar dagen geleden mijn avatar wijzigde en mijn naam er aan toevoegde. Alsof het zo zijn moest zag ik twee dagen daarna mijn nieuwe avatar opduiken als avatar bij een medecacher. Dus mailde ik hem over het feit dat hij 'mijn' avatar gebruikte. Hij wees me er op dat het een bekende bug was die veroorzaakte dat je soms je eigen avatar bij een ander als avatar kon zien en wees me op een draadje van een tijd geleden. Bij nader inzien kon ik me inderdaad zoiets herinneren, maar ik dacht dat dat al lang opgelost was. Toch lees je hier en daar op het forum dat het wel vaker, maar erg onregelmatig voorkomt. Enfin om een lang verhaal kort te houden, na wat heen en weer mailen besloot hij toch maar een bugreport in te dienen. Dat draadje loopt nu HIER Kennelijk kan Groundspeak zich niet zo druk maken om het verhaal en daarom zou het van pas komen als anderen, die dit probleem ook ondervinden, bij het draadje aan zouden sluiten om info aan te leveren en het probleem te benadrukken. Mocht het je recentelijke overkomen zijn, kun je mogelijk een bijdrage leveren. Ben je geïnteresseerd, lees dan het draadje even door als je wilt. Groet,

Immediately after my previous posting I cleared the cache of my browser again, just wanting to know how this worked out. Went back to this page and now I see: Knowschads avatar (in fact Moun10bikes!!) is showing under properties: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/b7957b4c-ced3-416d-85b9-8965dc464809.jpg My avatar (in fact Knowschads)is showing: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/596701e7-e2e4-4475-84e0-f219cabdbd1f.jpg Regards,

DFX, Cleared the cache of my browser (InternetExplorer8) just to be sure after opening this 'session' a few hours ago. Just now I refreshed this page to see or there were any updates and now when I look at this page the avatar showing for Mount10bike is no longer Knowschads but now is showing 'my' avatar again, the golfball with Pocileh written in it for every posting he made in this thread. This is the URL showing in the properties of the Avatar in each of his postings. http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/598c0637-72ea-48a5-aaac-e06b0754a595.jpg All the other avatars seem to be okay, including mine and Knowschads. I looked at the properties of my avatar in my postings above and they all are showing: http://img.geocaching.com/user/avatar/596701e7-e2e4-4475-84e0-f219cabdbd1f.jpg So the link is different but the image is exactly the same. Maybe this info is of some help: When I refreshed the page, at the start the locations for Moun10bikes avatars remained empty and it took about 45 seconds before the avatar (in this case 'my' avatar) was showing. During this time the browser was showing a message in the bottom line stating it was waiting for an image to be downloaded, showing the links which I was unable to copy. FWIW, I'm on Windows 7, and the browser is IE8. The system was fully updated three days ago. NOTE: Sorry, made a mistake here about my O/S. W7 is on my wifes computer.... The operating System on my computer is Windows Vista Regards,

Well, just looked into this thread again to check or there was any recent info. No, but I think this phenomena is happening more often then just once in a while. Look at these screenshots I saved a few minutes ago and compare them to Moun10bikes postings above First screenshot: And the second one: But the third one after a page refresh is even better Or, and this one is the last one: Very, very annoying Or must I say: Hilarious Regards,

Nou, iedereen bedankt voor de aanwijzingen. Ik heb een paar truucs geprobeerd en die werken inderdaad wel. Conclusie: Er zit dus gewoon een bug in de software..... of is dit te kort door de bocht? Voorlopig kan ik in elk geval uit de voeten. Groet,

Chiming in here, being the person who contacted Knowchad about using my avatar. First a few words of explanation. Some weeks ago I noticed someone might be using 'my' avatar, the image of a plain golfball. I didn't think a lot of it, just thought it to be a strange coincidence. The dag before yesterday (or yesterday depending where you live on mother earth) I decided to alter my avatar and add my name to the image. So I did, uploaded the avatar now showing my nickname (Pocileh) and forgot about it...until this morning. Browsing the forum I noticed my 'new' avatar ......showing as avatar on a posting by Knowchad. Strange....paged a few pages forward and back but nothing changed. So I assumed Knowchad used some kind of link to my avatar and contacted him to ask him to alter his avatar because 'his' avatar now was showing my nickname. I'm sorry if I sounded a bit harsh in my email, but that was not intended. He informed me that this was a known bug in the Groundspeak software and provided a link. In hindsight I knew about this bug but assumed that was ironed out. Later on he informed me that he had undertaken action and started a bug report. When I went to this page I noticed that his posting didn't show my avatar but a different one, a dog with glasses. I assume it's his real avatar. But then, scrolling down, surprise surprise. There was the posting Moun10bike added, suggesting to empty the browser cache.. Well, I've done that yesterday during a general cleanup of my computer so that waqs done before reporting to Knowchad. But looking at the moun10bike's avatar I couldn't believe my eyes: 'MY' avatar was showing! So I think there still is some kind of bug present and I hope Groundspeak will correct that. Thanks to Knowchad for filing this bugreport. Regards, Pocileh

Ik wilde eens rond kijken in de memberslist. Ik ben Premium Member en ik ben ingelogd. Als ik op "Members" klik (bijv. hier boven aan de pagina), dan krijg ik geen toegang tot de lijst maar wel de melding: Wat kan ik hier fout doen? Niets denk ik. Wie heeft een idee en kan me helpen? Groet,

Bloodwoosj, Het zal wel onbeantwoord blijven of de info op de profielpagina nou wel of niet openbaar was, dus ook te zien door niet "GC-leden" Ík weet niet beter of ik heb die pagina ook aan vrienden getoond op hun systeem toen ik ze over geocachen verteld heb. En bij mijn weten was ik toen niet ingelogd..... Nou ja, ik heb inmiddels een omweg gevonden. Dezelfde info staat ook op mijn eigen website, zij het op twee verschillende pages en ik kan door ook naar linken, zij het dat ik dan twee links nodig heb zoals ik het nu heb georganiseerd. Maar eens kijken of ik de komende dagen wat tijd kan vinden om dat te wijzigen. Dat zal niet zo'n opgave zijn, maar het was gewoon handig om in voorkomend geval naar de profielpage te verwijzen. Bedankt voor je mening en toelichting. Groet,