K!nder
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15 hours ago, cerberus1 said:
Yeah, I can see a tough cache getting lots of PAFs and such.
I think the guideline "log with a container" still applies. A Reviewer uses a holey ammo can with a dive slate inside.
- You'd have to ask yours and see. Looks cool. Will people have to move relics underwater to find your cache?
No there will be no relics to move. The thing is to create a letterbox underwater under a mussel artificial structure in north of spain. There is a huge chain attaching the structure to the floor of the sea and a wreck.
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3 minutes ago, cerberus1 said:
Any doubt might be in how many people ever access it over the years.
Time/current may simply move it unless attached to something . Wrecks are protected in a lot of areas.
Where folks would log it is an issue. You don't want people to open/close and move it around either.
Similar to fuzziebear3, a stage in a multi could work, with coordinates to the stage (on land) inside a clear container.
Any clear waterproof case would work there.
Stay put in the water and a dive slate could be the ticket (remind folks to bring a pencil :-).
"Deterioration of the ocean" not really an issue for a plastic dive container...
The problem with a multi with the final coordenate in land is that here people like the easy way so in a few days the land coordenate will be divulgated and everyone will go only to the final point. And since it is logged there i can't refuse the log online.
In terms of number of people visiting the geocache it is not a problem i am used to it already and i prefer that way
my idea was to find something like
And attach it to a place under with waterprof logbook or something like a shell to log you nick name with a pencil.
What do you both think?
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9 minutes ago, fuzziebear3 said:
There are a few ways to do dive caches, and they all have challenges.
If you don't want to leave plastic in the ocean, you could have them get information from an underwater location (the number on a bell, or how many windows on the ship, etc), and then use that to calculate a final location on land.
In general, if you leave something in the ocean, it is going to become part of the ocean, and sea life may grow on it, live in it, etc.
Buoyancy will be an issue, as well as water resistance. If you put a container of 'air' down there, it will likely float and leak. Is the diver expected to bring it to the surface to open it? It is still going to get water in it, and someone will probably try to open it underwater. But as a diver, depending on the depth and placement, it may not be safe or advisable to bring it up and take it back down (consider your dive tables). Or you can make your placement part of the wet environment (such as a dive slate only). Either way you are adding to the environment.
Most people will not take their actual GPS on the dive with them, as they are not rated for depth. The location will be determined from the surface only, the underwater portion will need to be rather obvious or described. Searching and 'work' under water can be difficult.
It will be done to be logged underwater, since it will be 16 meters under. The container will be obvious, and i will have to think about living something there or not.
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Hi you all,
i have a doubt about scuba diving geocaches. I got my Open Water Certification so i will start doing some scuba dives. So i was wondering if there were many caches of this type. I have seen quite a few already. But then i though that in the few dives i already performed i have found some pretty interesting places, so why not identificate one or two with a geocache?
But then it came to my mind that i don't want to contribute to the deterioration of the ocean/sea. So no plastic containers will be used, and then i though maybe a ceramic container will be fine for the job. But i am not an expert in ocean life so i don't know if it will harm the sea or not.Anyone can help me with that? Is there any type of container that can be left in the ocean without any problem? What is your thoughs about this topic.
Cheers,
K!nder aka André
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16 hours ago, cerberus1 said:
I'd like to maintain a civil relationship with my Reviewer. If they say they'll "try to see with GS what to do", I'd like to believe they're doing just that.
The last thing I'd want to do is compromise that relationship by going over their head when they offered help.
But, I believe most Reviewers are used to it happening ...
I am not trying to pass over my reviewer. Because i think the reviewers in my country are great. It was just to accelerate things and to give less trouble to everyone in the process. The faster the better for everyone. No matter what the answer would be i always would comunicate that to my reviewer. But i saw that the appeal involves stating the reviewer name, and i don't want to do it because i dont know if it wont get him problems. So i will stay and wait
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On 03/09/2017 at 1:46 PM, palmetto said:
Both caches were resubmitted.
Expectation for reviews is 7 days. I hope you received the email that is generated each time a cache is submitted; it contains that info!
If not, check that the email address on your Geocaching.com account . It should be one that you check, and be sure that the service provider doesn't put email from "noreply@Geocaching.com" into a spam folder.
After the first contact of the reviewer with the owner, where the reviewer express his/her concerns, and say that will try to see with GS what to do. Should the owner wait (it takes a lot of time) and probably it will be denied, because the owner has more info than the reviewer, or should the owner submit an appeal with the info first?
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On 03/09/2017 at 7:28 PM, arisoft said:
That was faster than expected. I have recently seen something like this:
Day 0: Cache placed
Day 1: Cache sent for reviewing
Day 4: Reviewer asks why there is link to geocachin.com in the description.
Day 11: Reviewer wants to ask guidance from HQ about the link
Day 13: Appeal is processed in HQ and reviewer is informed about the outcome
Day 18: Reviewer ask more time to decide what to do
Day 24: Cache published
I'm surprised how quickly the appeal was handled at the headquarters.
Who submited the appeal? You or the Reviewer?
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On 29/09/2017 at 5:00 PM, Keystone said:On 29/09/2017 at 10:13 PM, niraD said:
One of the things that impresses me about the plastic maze puzzle boxes that I've seen is that they reset automatically, with no effort from the solver. The latch doesn't work at all until you navigate the maze to get the metal ball from point A to point B. Then the latch works once, moving the metal ball from point B to point A in the process. Lather, rinse, repeat.
I've seen some game-theory discussion of escape rooms that address the issue of resetting the room for the next group. The ideal situation is one where solving the puzzle leaves it in a state where it is ready to be solved again, but it's hard to design puzzles that way.
Do you still have that discussion link. It seem prety interesting
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On 15/02/2011 at 8:31 PM, Hooligan14 said:
Plans , material list and instructions for 1 variation is on www.greathides.com
Do you have those plans?
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Anyone wanna help?
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Yes i can made-up a story. Basically the last geocaches i have created are with a made up story, to connect the experience and the arounds with the story i invented.
One of my stories was so good that suddenly pass to a book about tales from Portugal, and was said that was a tale from that village for a long time. The cache was only placed on 2011 -.-'
So the authour of the book didn't made a good research about it. And even hasn't change the story she just did a copy paste of my story and placed it in her book without permission
So be creative, innovative and let your mind be free. And if it will be a letterbox just tell and for sure i will put it in my watchlist.
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9 hours ago, geocat_ said:
How did you get this figure? Seems like a fairly specific calculation.
It was not me who have done it. It was made by a geocacher in Portugal that knows everything about statistics. And the value was 39,xxx% i just said 40% to be more easy. He is always doing all kind of statistics about everything.
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14 hours ago, on4bam said:
I ran a macro in GSAK to see how many (potential) PTs there are in Belgium.
Database used: unfound Belgium with 32356 caches
Filtered for series with more than 50 caches each: 2538 caches =7.8%
Most caches in one series: 250
Oldest series: August 2009
Youngest series: August 2017
Placed 2009: 31 caches
Placed 2010: 160 caches
Placed 2011: 48 caches
Placed 2012: 49 caches
Placed 2013: 238 caches
Placed 2014: 269 caches
Placed 2015: 426 caches
Placed 2016: 569 caches
Placed 2017: 745 caches
Traditional: 1705
Multi: 71
Mystery: 715
Rest (letterbox, EC, Wherigo): 47
This is just an indication as there are a few PT caches we found, not all will be "real" PT but larger series.
Interesting would be to know how many PTs in 2017 placed / caches in 2017 placed
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3 minutes ago, NYPaddleCacher said:
I did something far simpler. I created two pocket queries. One includes cache placed prior to August 2015 within 20 miles of my home location. The other includes caches with a place date after August 2015. The number of results for each PQ is similar, but looking at the map and there is a distinct difference. The "newer caches" PQ has a lot of strings of caches on it. I'll also not that for the most part, the whole cache series/PT mentality didn't exist in my area until just a few years ago. I imagine if one created PQs of many other places in North America, Europe, and even some countries in Asia the results would be similar: by carefully choosing the placed date range and proximity, two lists of caches about the same size would be created but the results on the map would look very different.
With time maybe i will try that around some places in Europe. Tomorrow i have work to do
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9 minutes ago, thebruce0 said:
I definitely agree that they are more popular now than they've ever been. Just as other styles of hides. In the case of powertrails, they by definition of higher hide count for the world total, unlike other single-cache hide styles.
Hm. Having all of Ontario downloaded, I wonder how hard it would be to attempt to quickly identify all the powertrail caches in various areas (using a dreaded algorithm), and categorize them to find out what the ratio is; and even run a placed-date analysis and make some graphs of the increased proliferation of powertrail cache counts over the years...
Are you going to do it? If so show us the results after, i am extremelly curious
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25 minutes ago, DragonsWest said:
Gravitate to those things you enjoy most and complain not about those you do not pursue.
Ommmmmmmm
I am not complaining just asking for your opinion. I don't complain because i still do the type and kind of geocaches i like, the others i just pass-by if it doesn't attract me. Thats why i am doing so few geocaches right now by year
I was just asking to see if it just me that see the proliferation of the PTs or is happening a little bit around the world.
Another thing that i see is the creation of intensive PTs to promote the coming of geocachers to an expected Mega Event.
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1 hour ago, on4bam said:
Fortunately there are still high quality caches around. It takes some effort to find them in between all the "run of the mill" caches but they are still there. Also, series of traditionals on the map are not always PTs, We have done several series (up to 25 caches, trads + bonus) with original handcrafted containers where fieldpuzzles had to be solved to get to the logbook. I must admit, most of these high quality series are premium only here.
Having all Belgian caches in GSAK and using macros to get GCVote ratings and calculate % of FPs makes selecting "worthwhile" caches a lot easier than looking at the GC map.
Yes, i know there is still amazing caches being published. It is not through that point that i was asking but i was focusing more on the developing of the type of geocaching.
I am still finding amazing caches but now i spent more time to filtrate them all
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I started in 2007 when there was only a bunch of geocaches in Portugal and not that many in the world.
Now after 10 years i look to the map and see long and extensive powertrails. So i am thinking if this is the way geocaching will evolve. If this is the vision GS has for the new geocaching.
For example in Portugal he have, till now, almost 40% of the caches published this year are in a PowerTrail.
I have to admit that i am somehow afraid with this panorama and this evolution, because i prefer to do less geocaches but with high quality. I am not a fan of film caches along a route and stoping every 161 meters.
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I initiate this topic to try and discover what kind of owner are you.
When i entered the game in 2007, i was teached that in general terms, geocaching was a treasure hunt where the main goal was to show a place, its history, view or particular characteristic about it. So for me in the beggining geocaching was about the place.
When i start developing myself as a owner and start publishing my first geocaches i had that in mind and always tried to find that place with a WOW factor. Along the path i did at this hobby i start to get more excited when i was looking for a geocache with a physical and/or phisicological barrier. So i start looking for T5. And a while after i was more attracted to the ones i was with during the hunt and the feelings i was feeling.
So as i like those kind of concepts i start to develop my new geocaches in that path. So i am not an owner focus on the place but instead i focus on the geocacher. I don't create a geocache to show a place with a great view. I prefer to show a place with something interesting but then focus on people feelings.
When i am thinking about a new geocache i try to pursue one that will make geocachers experience some of the most powerful feelings. Make them fear, make them hate me, cast a spell upon me, make the angry, or with wrath. And believe they usually pass around those feelings. But at the end when they finish the geocache and look behind they will see they had surpassed some of their fears, they had gone far beyond they were expecting and then the feeling of conquer will fill them.
Usually i try to finish making people feel that they acchieved something.
How to?
Giving geocachers a great story behind the physical space. Giving a physical and physicological challenge to them. Use something that they are not expecting, never seen in other geocache.
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Urban and abandone structures/Caves - Mines
Using two of the most powerful geocache types we have: Wherigo and Letters - with them we can be really creative and innovate. (We should have more topics about the potential of letterboxing)
What about you? What kind of owner are you? What do you think about my way of hiding?
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And how long does it take for you to recieve an appeal answer?
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The problem you'd run into with trying to put caches in apparently-abandoned areas is that they likely aren't completely abandoned. Someone likely still owns the property, and determining who that is and getting their permission to have cachers access their property could be difficult. Personally, if I were the owner of that ceramics factory in Portugal, I wouldn't want strangers climbing an unmaintained ladder on the side of a chimney and potentially be liable for any injuries (I'm not sure how liability works in Portugal). That looks like an interesting area to explore, so good job on getting permission for cachers to experience it!
I had the permission of the owner for that factory. Usually i always try to get the permission before putting something and till now i was lucky i guess. Although for this geocache there was a problem because the first permission i had it was with the wrong owner and only after that i discovered the real owner.
There were more things being done there, like: paintball and photoshos
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This for example is an Urbex Geocache i made some years ago with a spooky story in it.
Basically it was about a little young girl that felt from one of those chimneys and got burnt and her ghost is still there and you need to look for her clues. So you have to got inside mines with water, holes, under a truck scale and in the end after you visit her grave you have to pay a tribute to her taking one rose to the heaven (75 meters high chimney).
Enjoy the movie a geocacher made when they went there:
I love to visit this kind of geocaches so whenever i go to a diferent country i would make my goal these kind of geocaches.
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Howdy,
i am a complete fanatic for urbex caches and adventurous geocaches so i always try to create some of my geocaches in Urbex areas with some radical part and specially with a ghost or something that scary.
I can say i am somehow like a ghost hunter
Do you have any experience concerning geocaches with that theme?
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Thank you for the help, i think i don't have any of those problems cause i don't use zones everything is in the player hidden and only with a code it turns visible. I am trying something if i can't solve i can put here the source i don't mind with that.
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