Clarkbowman

becuase of this same issue you stated I realy don't forsee me making it 24 but, 16 -20 I can do. Any one with me will have nothing to do with planning at all, They will be there to record the effort only. I have done 60 in a day with out much planning on a road trip from Birmingham to Huntsville. So I am going to go for a goal of 150.

Who out there has the best record for caches in a 24 hour time frame? I’m asking for the single person record. Not the team record. I know the numbers gang won’t like this thread, but o well. I know I have signed for each smiley I have gotten, so I know my numbers are all good. I have loved the places geocaching has carried me and the kids and would not trade the time we have spent in the woods or in the city hunting a cache. Some are great caches and some are lame in my book. But we still have a blast. My numbers are all about what I can do as a personal challenge or what we the Clarkbowman clan can do. This being said I am thinking about going for a Single person/ 24 hour run, and was wondering how many others have done. Yes I know there is no official records kept and most could care less. But I am going to do it any ways. Besides, I figure one day I can say that I did this so please elect me president of the US. Do you think it will get me elected ? I am going to use the following set of rules for myself: 1. I will drive myself to all locations. No help from any one. 2. Once the run begins, Start to finish, the record run is performed in 24 running hours – no time-outs! 3. The logbook will be signed and dated, no stamps or stickers. 4. All caches will be caches that I have never visited, logged or searched for before the run. 5. No test runs. 6. One or two people will ride with me to film the run and so I can have some one to chat with. BUT no help will be given from them in the search. edited by me to clairify #4. It used to read : 4. All caches will be new caches, never logged or searched for before the run.

Well, if you are gonna sink to that level of spinning and sniping, perhaps this is a good time and place to mention publicly that you were busted a few months ago for pimping sponsorships for Platinum Member wannabes, that is, for accepting bribes from Platinum wannabes in return for sponsoring them for Platinum Membership. Darn Vinny, There you go again and spilling the beans again. I paid you plenty of a commission on that for you to have stayed quiet. Now what do we do? Every newbie will want some of the money now.

I can not believe you have let the cat out of the bag on our income. You should be banned from your Platinum Membership

Who out there has the Heaviest cache concentration in a 15 miles radius? Or, Who has the best power trail in there area?

The GODS say so.

This is a cache we placed in memory of our oldest son. GC1A7ED

Did anyone else instantly see possibilities in that container? Yes, untill I found the price. Any where from $11 - $15 each

I know...I guess I can chalk this one up as a mistake on my part. I just wanted to add that I just got an email from crazycaches basically demanding that I remove my log from the cache in question, also stating this...and I do quote: "You did not have our permission to use our name in your posting and legal action will follow if you do not delete your log." Methinks this is going to get ugly. Aw shucks, it already has. Yeah, I'd say it's a guideline violation. You can only use your hands to place a cache, you know. Do you mean I have to stop using my jack hammer and backhoe?

That stat is still there and available, you just need to look around. I'll save you the time: http://www.itsnotaboutthenumbers.com/selec...sort=finds_best That does you no good, that part of the site has been down for some time now, check your own link and try for yourself, you will get "Top Ten Lists Overall I'm temporarily disabling the Top Ten page while I work on doing a better job of generating the data. This is one of the pages that really hits the database hard and might be one of the causes for some of the site slowness and the "500:Unavailable" errors that pop up sometimes. "

Offer them any munchies you may have. Trail food, chocolate bars and peanut butter cups works well. Just found this thread, LOL most here seem to be taking the HIGH road. When most have probly been HIGH several times in thier lives. As for me "Personally, I would gather a few and leave quietly. " I would be temped to take a back pack full dry it and make sure it was not ditch weed first. Then I would decide what to do., well maybe after another trip You all should face the truth and spill the real beans, rather then take the low road and tell a story.

Not heard of this event before, When do they do it?

There needs to be one.

this means nothing at all. The way you have posted this makes it sound as if you would hope some one will tell you to claim FTF. If he never logs it you will never be the FTF. It will always and forever more be his claim.

Ibelieve I know where the next 10 in this area are going to be placed, So can I claim them now before they are even created psychic caching can be fun,

Make any rule( just about - the unpublished rules) for a mystery cache. For a traditional cache, claiming FTF is a right to the one who gets there first. Plan and simple. You want it, go get it.

Great looking coin.

A coin for me and one coin for all!

Time to eat crow, I was defiantly wrong on the distance thing.  So who knows now  The EarthCache here in Huntsville after publishing, was then in a few days Un Published because of the not asking part. That much I know happened. Past that who knows? Not me!

Proximity is a non issue for the cache expereince. Proximity is an issue as a courtesy to the owner. If their cache has nothing to do with the EarthCache , I'd not even bother asking the cache owner. EarthCaches are their own thing and don't conflict with a regular cache. If by chance the cache has something to do with the EarthCache I'd give the owner first right of refusal to place the EarthCache . If they don't wish to do so, I'd place it on my own. Lastly, if the park is excited and wanted a cache, by gosh that's what it's all about. Place whatever the heck kind of cache they are thinking they want placed in as many locations and on as many sites as it takes to get them all listed. No you are correct, I do not own the land for 99.9%of my caches, But When I place a cache, that cache is mine and the virtual space around it. That’s why you can not place one inside of the saturation rules. If for some reason I did not like you, I could delete any finds I wanted to. I’m not going to, But the point is I could if I so wished. I all so would not stop a EarthCache near any of my caches, more people to maybe go after mine along with it. As for the one in Huntsville shut down, I am trying to figure it out, It was almost a year ago, I do not remember much of the details on it, other then its location. I was only in my first month of caching and had it loaded, Myself and the Kids had went to the site to get our first EarthCache, completed all the requirements and a couple of days latter I went to long it, it was shut down. A nearby cache owner did not want it near his cache because of the developer never asked. So it was gone. I don’t see most cachers out there saying no, but placing an EarthCache with out asking is the same as not asking the land owner. If proximity does not matter, then we should be able to place any cache, any where we want. But we can’t! Being what they are. EarthCaches and there developers should place them selves up to a higher standard in the caching community. Follow the caching rules and don’t look for loopholes that will belittle the entire idea. Again that is my two cents worth. Don't get me wrong here, I love the EarthCaches I have found, But place one on top of or within the my space of my cache and I will have your Earthcache archived, if I was to tell you no, myself I would not tell you no if you asked. But again a Earthcache Is part of Geocaching and falls under the cache saturation rule , with the exception given that you can ask the cache owner if he minds it being close to his. Over half the Earth caches I have placed are near other caches and all the cachers loved the idea. They knew it may bring more activity to their cache. If a cacher did tell you know, you would just have to deal with it. Push this to much and you might find EarthCaches heading down the same road as Virtuals. The "EarthCaches are their own thing" is true, yes! But, No! You still claim your smiles on the GeoCaching Site. Respect for all cachers and caches should be given. I have seen one EarthCache here in Hunsville get archived for placing, without asking a nearby cache owner, So it has been done. Placing EarthCaches in a holeyer then though place, Thinking you can ignore all others is in my opinion, a bad road to try to go down. Again try this "If their cache has nothing to do with the EarthCache , I'd not even bother asking the cache owner. EarthCaches are their own thing and don't conflict with a regular cache." near one of my caches and it will be archived faster then you wrote it up. Don't get me wrong but. It's not your cache. It's not your land. Therefore if I asked as a courtesy because you had your own cache in the area and you said you wanted nothing to do with the proposed EarthCache , tough. To have the power to force someone elses cache to be archived would mean you had real and actual authority over the the grounds, the listing and the cache. You don't. You are limited to your own box.* My Joint Venture at Crater Rings Cache has an EarthCache in the exact same place. I don't recall being asked and that would have been nice. But that EarchCache has not interfered in the least with my cache. If anything it gets more folks there as the rate of finds seems to have gone up lately. *I defend you as the owner of that box more than most in these forums. No you are correct, I do not own the land for 99.9%of my caches, But When I place a cache, that cache is mine and the virtual space around it. That’s why you can not place one inside of the saturation rules. If for some reason I did not like you, I could delete any finds I wanted to. I’m not going to, But the point is I could if I so wished. I all so would not stop a EarthCache near any of my caches, more people to maybe go after mine along with it. As for the one in Huntsville shut down, I am trying to figure it out, It was almost a year ago, I do not remember much of the details on it, other then its location. I was only in my first month of caching and had it loaded, Myself and the Kids had went to the site to get our first EarthCache, completed all the requirements and a couple of days latter I went to long it, it was shut down. A nearby cache owner did not want it near his cache because of the developer never asked. So it was gone. I don’t see most cachers out there saying no, but placing a EarthCache with out asking is the same as not asking the land owner. As for myself, I think EarthCaches and developers should hold ourselves to a higher stand then most. Rather then look for loopholes to place an Earthcaches somewhere. That my cents worth.

Proximity is a non issue for the cache expereince. Proximity is an issue as a courtesy to the owner. If their cache has nothing to do with the EarthCache , I'd not even bother asking the cache owner. EarthCaches are their own thing and don't conflict with a regular cache. If by chance the cache has something to do with the EarthCache I'd give the owner first right of refusal to place the EarthCache . If they don't wish to do so, I'd place it on my own. Lastly, if the park is excited and wanted a cache, by gosh that's what it's all about. Place whatever the heck kind of cache they are thinking they want placed in as many locations and on as many sites as it takes to get them all listed. Don't get me wrong here, I love the EarthCaches I have found, But place one on top of or within the my space of my cache and I will have your Earthcache archived, if I was to tell you no, myself I would not tell you no if you asked. But again a Earthcache Is part of Geocaching and falls under the cache saturation rule , with the exception given that you can ask the cache owner if he minds it being close to his. Over half the Earth caches I have placed are near other caches and all the cachers loved the idea. They knew it may bring more activity to their cache. If a cacher did tell you know, you would just have to deal with it. Push this to much and you might find EarthCaches heading down the same road as Virtuals. The "EarthCaches are their own thing" is true, yes! But, No! You still claim your smiles on the GeoCaching Site. Respect for all cachers and caches should be given. I have seen one EarthCache here in Hunsville get archived for placing, without asking a nearby cache owner, So it has been done. Placing EarthCaches in a holeyer then though place, Thinking you can ignore all others is in my opinion, a bad road to try to go down. Again try this "If their cache has nothing to do with the EarthCache , I'd not even bother asking the cache owner. EarthCaches are their own thing and don't conflict with a regular cache." near one of my caches and it will be archived faster then you wrote it up.

From what I can tell, you would have to ask permission of any type of cache owner, I have all ways been asked by Geoaware if I have asked permission of a nearby cache owner if closer then the Cache guidelines say for a cache. So you are not the sole person asked. It already seems to be a standard rule. I see no benefit in pushing things , when Earthcaches now all ready can be placed inside of the 528 foot rule. I myself would be a bit pissed as a Traditional cache owner, If you came and placed a cache inside of the 528 foot rule, which is now no mans land for any other cache, with out asking me if you could enter my virtual claim on that space. As for rules, I think that one should be added, That all EarthCache developers should be required to upload a picture of them selves at the cache location with GPS in hand. But then again what do I know! I'm just a cacher.

Urban caches in the Summer, Hit the trails in fall Winter and early spring.

Bingo... Geoaware should adopt them over, have the cache owner make the edits, THEN publish it... (Yes, it can be done that way). I think GeoAware may be on the over worked side now , with the load of Earthcaches being submited, Let alone wanting GeoAware to have to deal with each cache twice. The Cache owner should take care of this. If you find one, send the owner a note. See if they will fix it.