Happy Chappies

Map icons are dead here too (Win, Chrome).... Reloading and clearing/cleaning Chrome has made no difference.

Thanks for that. At least that rules out the archived theory...

Greetings from down under. This is probably a long shot, but worth a try.... While holidaying in the UK recently we were doing quite a bit of caching around Scotland. At one point we were at Plodda falls (I think that's what they were called), near Loch Ness, by the village of Tomich. I had no internet reception there so didn't bother taking the phone as we went for a walk down to the falls. At the bottom I got that sense that said "there must be a cache around here somewhere" so started poking around a nearby tree and, lo and behold, there was a cache! Was I ever delighted! Signed it and headed up back the path very chuffed. However, now that I'm back home - I notice that the cache in question doesn't seem to exist. It doesn't appear on the map, with this cache (http://coord.info/GC3TM03) being almost at the same location, but clearly not the same. (The one I found was a simple micro hidden in tree roots, not a challenging swim-cache like this one!) Anyone have any idea if this is an archived old cache? It had other names in the logbook but I didn't bother to check the dates. I've also checked OpenCaching and couldn't spot it there either. Any ideas?? Many thanks, Eddie (Happy Chappies)

Hi! I'm not a Queenslander, but you'll find plenty of them at the Geocaching Australia forums - http://forum.geocaching.com.au/index.php - (where most Australian cachers tend to congregate...)

Watching... Is there any news yet or is still too soon to be soon(ish)

'too much info' is very subjective and depends on the cache and the importance to the cache owner of keeping the 'purity' of its hide intact. I've had lots of cachers logs give away bits of info I wouldn't have in the description or hint (not by pjmpjm) but I don't mind if finders resort to the logs in the end... I must admit there are times when I am writing logs where I think "am I saying too much?" just by describing the adventure - and it's a fine line between describing your journey and giving it away sometimes. It's fair that we might disagree on what is 'too much' as a result. And if someone did say too much then I'd be encrypting or deleting (depending on the severity) immediately and contacting them to ask them nicely to edit it accordingly. It sounds like pjmpjm is happy to edit/crop from your previous post. Yes, a lot of hides have a photo pointing directly at where the cache is hidden - but I've found that in most cases that really doesn't narrow it down much more than a good GPSr does. And while you have said that this isn't about blame and retribution, the thread title makes it hard to see otherwise - It sounds pretty vindictive when I don't see anything malicious in his logs or actions - Just perhaps a misunderstanding....

Fantastic! That's prompt service, your Umpness, Sir..... (Of course I appreciate you guys have probably been behind the scenes at work on this for a while - many thanks) Look forward to the news - And now to quickly run around do maintenance on my own caches so I don't fall victim myself!

Hi, This is an issue which was initially raisedin the feedback section of the site and was denied with the response from Jeremy that "The feedback section is for feature requests on the web site, not for policy or procedure changes. Feel free to discuss this in our online forums. Thanks!" I haven't seen a thread here on this so thought I might start one, being unaware of how else we can get this issue addresssed. For quite some time now Australia has been in need of a third reviewer to help with the clean up of caches. Our two current reviewers are excellent however the rapid growth in geocaching in Australia (which is great!) means that it's harder and harder for them to take part in the process of alerting cache owners when they are neglecting needs maintenance requests, or to archive caches which have been well and truly abandoned. As such there are a significant number of caches which are in poor condition and receive no maintenance from the cache owner. Just recently I've had a friend begin geocaching in our local area and I worry as there are a large number of these sorts of caches - And it's a bad introduction to a new cacher to find caches with broken containers, sodden logbooks, etc. That bothers me as it means that they will probably not want to continue geocaching and find the other excellent caches that are out there, and that when they place new caches the standard may be low and they will not appreciate the need for maintenance. It seems that a lot of cache owners are not appreciating the need for ongoing maintenance when placing a cache, and the current situation where unmaintained caches can go for long periods without any reviewer action is probably contributing to this. I think it is also contributing to other geocachers not bothering to use the 'needs archived' log because they don't believe any action will be taken for a long period of time. So - Given that a third reviewer (focused on archiving and encouraging maintenance) can only be a good thing for geocaching in Australia, what needs to be done to help make this happen? Thanks Eddie (Happy Chappies)