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Well I think that you are also missguided. Although you should not have to avoid LEO when caching, it is realy your job to not draw muggle attention to a cache. If you don't think you can, then don't look for it. But, I will aggree that your technique is often the best for not attrachting attention. And your statments about the cops are totaly correct, don't want to appear sneaky. Statments like "It is the COs problem" make you sound like an ignorant jerk. You can call me any name you like, however, there is an implicit relationship between hider and finder. My responsibility as a finder is to return the cache as I found it, and report any problems with the cache (log wet, cache broken, etc). My responsibility as a hider is to ensure that the place I've selected for the hide is environmentally sensitive, has the permission of the land owner, and is likely to remain in place on a long-term basis. The onus is on the hider to hide in an appropriate location. If I need to use a cloak-and-dagger routine to keep the cache from being muggled, it's A BAD HIDE. I will not use stealth, period, ever, and if my lack of stealth causes a cache to go missing, it should be an indication to the cache owner that THIS IS NOT A GOOD SPOT FOR A HIDE. IMO, Geocaching is a totally legit and family friendly activity, and encouraging people to be stealthy undermines the sport by setting people up to act in a way that may lead to a negative interaction with law enforcement or the public, who are likely to get the understanding that caching is fundamentally based in trespassing. My not being stealthy SPECIFICALLY helps to weed out those caches that have no business being there in the first place. Not to mention, looking like you belong there is usually better cover than trying to apply stealth! This. He said it in a much more intelligent fashion than I, however.

I'm a regular member. If I click on a cache and it's premium member only, I shrug and move on to the next one. I live in SE Michigan. Hundreds and hundreds of caches around. Much too much to worry about a few that I can't see.

Dude, I think you take the term "stealthy" WAY to literally, you're not supposed to tip toe around looking over your shoulder every other second. Just exhibit some confidence, that alone is enough "stealth" for most populated area. This is what I'm saying. I got out of my Jeep, walked into the woods next to the school. Looking confident and using stealth are not even remotely close to being related.

Whatever man. If there's a cache nearby, I'm going to find it. I'm not going to draw attention from the authorities to myself by acting sneaky/stealthily. People like you and I will never see eye to eye so... EDIT: In regards to the cache in which you quoted my log, it's busy even on a non-voting day. I'm not going to sneak around a school looking shady no matter what the circumstances are. I don't need people thinking I'm bombing the place or I am a chester. Sorry if it gets muggled. Find a better spot for it next time.

I simply refuse to use "stealth." We're normal people, not trained operatives. Believe it or not, YOU are unable to use stealth. If by "stealth" you mean "sit in your car and finish your Big Mac while you wait for the nearest muggle to leave", then yeah I guess you do use stealth. I may wait until the coast is relatively clear before grabbing a cache, but I refuse to sneak around. If it's out in the open like that, then it probably shouldn't be there. It's going to be muggled sooner or later.

Thanks much!

Hey. If I by an eTrex H here in the US, would I be able to use it in Ireland without updating anything? It contains no map files. All it does is point in the direction of X. So could I use that? Thanks all!

I have a Garmin with just street navigation and I now I use my cellular phone with Geocaching Navigator from Trimble. That wont' work in Ireland though. What kind of Garmin for street nav?? You know, turn by turn navigation only. Not much detail off of roads and no coordinates at all. It's about 3 years old.

I have a Garmin with just street navigation and I now I use my cellular phone with Geocaching Navigator from Trimble. That wont' work in Ireland though.

Hey all. I'm headed to Ireland next month. I want to buy a GPS in the US before I go that will let me geocache in Ireland. Any ideas which to buy? I'm looking to spend < $100.00