emtfire10

Opps meant to put Crawford County in, but it wouldnt let me edit it.

To enjoy the scenery & wild life around me.

IMHO, I dont see any problems with cemetery caches, as long as they are done in good taste. Meaning Good taste as in not near a headstone (the cache container itself) itself. Along with the cache being maintained too. My wife & I both enjoy cemetery caches, because you never know what/who you find in a cemetery. We did a cemetery cache in the Pgh Pa area a few years back once we found the cache, we walked around the cemetery checking the headstones out. I found a long distance relative of mine buried there, whom my step dad was named directly after. (This person was in the war of 1812). We have found some very old headstones with some interesting information on them & so forth. As long as a person or cacher is respective to the area & cemetery I have no problem with it.

Mine is simple. I am Emt & Firefighter have been for 27 yrs both the career & volunteer sectors. The number "10" comes from a Ems Service I ran with years back, radio call sign was Emtfire10 since I was the 10th Emt/FF on their roster. Our team name is TeamEmtFireKids. Which most of the Adults are either/or both Emts & Firefighters, as our kids are well apart of our team too. Hence TeamEmtFireKids

If you dont like the term "Muggles" then simply find another word that you or anyone else would feel comfortable with & use it instead.

NW Pa here, South of Facedances & Tprints, however north of Chaoss

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I have briefly run into this problem at least 5x before within the past month, however the past 24 hrs it has been constant. If I hit the GPX Exchange file button instead of bringing up the GPX File to downloaded in to my GSAK, it reverting me back to the Hide and Seek page. Has anyone run into this problem lately? Is it a problem with the GC webpage itself? I am at a complete loss with this.

As long as you answer them whether you are trading or not, that is the main thing. if you are not trading & answering them about it you are being polite enough.

There seems to be 1 or 2 coins that I may interested in.

I have approx 6 or 7 "copy coins" out in the wild right now with certain goals. However only 1 has even remotely met it's intended goal. I put laminated copies out of the coin(s) simply because of the extreme possiblity of a coin ending up in someone's collection rather than meeting it's goal. It also works out so when I go to a local event, I take the original coins with me for other cachers to discover. However though, I have received some emails pertaining to "This is not legal as per Groundspeak Rules" & so forth. 1 cacher had even sent a photo of the cut up laminated copy coin, because he/she did not feel they should have to move it. If you feel you don't like the idea of the a "copy coin" being in a cache, just leave it there for maybe the next cacher or 2 to hopefully pick up & move it along. Hopefully your coin(s) will meet their intended goal, I know if it would happen to make it in my direction I will gladly help it along the way.

Every coin that either I have or my team members have all been sent out as proxies. We take a photo of the coin, use a photo editing program, combine the photo & information together, then laminate it. It is clearly explained on the coin page that they have the copy or proxy coin as we can then keep the original & share with others at events & so forth. We have quite a few of the AGT Cache coins (Allegheny Geo Trails) which you cannot buy,, but must do at least 6 AGT caches, grab your stamp (in your passport book) & have it verified by 1 of the 10 Counties involved in order to obtain your AGT Coin. My take on this is simply if I am busting my butt to do 6 or more caches (ratings range anywhere from 1-5, dif & ter.) in order to get a coin then it is staying within my collection & not someone else's. As to where I also have a Firefighter coin that was bought the very same day a good friend of mine (whom was a firefighter) was killed in the line of duty (I bought the coin earlier that morning prior to this) & it was delivered the same day he was laid to rest. This coin was dedicated to him for his bravery, courage, honor, friendship & so forth. It has quite a bit of personal meaning behind it with me, so I keep it within my collection & send a photocopy or proxy out. I have only 1 or 2 complaints since I started doing this with my coins & quite a few that have stated they like the idea & may be doing it also. If a cacher does not like the idea of moving a proxy or copy coin then fine, leave it for the cacher that may want the icon & move it along it's way.

Just to give an update, I met with the investigators from PSP sometime back. Everything was explained pertaining to the original placement, permission, intent & what ever else of the cache. No problems exsist as of now. My only "shock" pertaining to Geocaching & LEOs is that quite from the Pa area are not aware of geocaching at all, & it has been out for what approx 8-9 yrs?

Just keep your hamsters down in your area, dont bring them to any of the Erie Caches LOL.

At the roof cache was removed after concerns of the employees pertaining to the amounts of vehicle break ins that were happening in that area. We removed it under the advisement of the Local PD to further protect any futher geo cachers from getting caught up in wrong doings going on there. As for the Meadville Travel Bug Hotel Cache, the young lady identified herself as being the MGR of the said establishment at both times. What more could you ask for? A letter from the Corp office explaining that the person whom you spoke with is in deed the MGR, Employee Photo Identification verifying whom they say they are? Not sure what else could be done, except for maybe getting a Official Written Letter from the Corporation itself, explaining the cacher has been granted permission to place a cache on retail property. But is this going to stop things such as this from happening, IMHO it will not. Ah yes, I remember when the cache was blown up at the Police Station near Erie. So we have two examples, and if you look at the hides attributed to TeamEmtFireKids, owners of Wally Tville Travel Bug Hotel (subject of this thread) you see two more examples of not everyone being "in" on the permission! At The Roof was removed when other employees were concerned with the cache, despite the Manager giving permission, and the The Meadville Travel Bug Hotel was removed by the day manager, despite permission from the night Manager. So yes, I agree with Keystone; "Perhaps the practical benefit of having permission is the avoidance of a bill for the response cost, and saving geocaching from bad publicity."

Adequate permission was "granted" by the STORE MGR not any of the lwr mgrs or asst mgrs. Hence why the cache was then placed in it's original location. As it has been stated before, no matter "How much permission you receive" once the Bomb Squad is called, they are going to follow their prodcedures & protocol in rendering it in-op. ANY caches that is placed on Retail Property by either the team that I am part of or by myself, PERMISSION is asked to do such prior. It is clearly explained about the intended contents of the container & the sport of geocaching. Once everything is done with, the container is then brought back to the MGR again, so that he/she can now see exactly what the container looks like & the original start of the contents within. As for this container itself, it was ORIGINALLY a clear Lock-n-Lock for which the MGR did see considering it was bought right there from that Walmart at the time. It was then covered in camo tape to "match or fairly match" the surroundings it was originally placed in. Thank you. As in this case (which was permitted), it won't stop it completely, but it will go a long way towards that goal. As follow-up to my own post, CR is quite a bit more experienced than I and I bow to his expertise... I am not in law enforcement and have only opinions, not knowledge. Still, it would seem to me that when the alarm is raised and someone goes to the land-owner to report "There is a suspicious package in yon flower bed that should be investigated" the land-owner can solve the problem by saying "That's a geocache, and I gave permission for it to be hidden there". The problem with this case, as with so many where permitted hides have been targeted, is in the phrase 'adequate permission'. This cache had permission but it probably wasn't adequate... a retail store has many managers, at various levels, and they all tend to be rather transient, so having the permission of one manager does not get you adequate permission. Every manager who might be on duty would have to know about it, and when they go on vacation or get transferred they would have to tell their replacement about it. Only then would the hide approach having adequate permission. This, of course, is simply not going to happen in any more than a mom-n-pop size operation, so caches placed at urban retailers will never have adequate permission. It is my guess that the above scenario played out here... when the alert was raised the one manager who had given permission was not on duty, and nobody else knew about it.

As one of the members of TeamEmtFireKids & the member whom placed the cache originally @ the Titusville Walmart, permission was granted last winter by the Store Mgr to place the cache. Can I blame PSP, or the Erie Bomb Squad for blowing it up? In reality no, they were doing their job. I respect what they do, understand what they do & why they do it. As I come from a family of LEO's & Firefighters of 3rd generation. Was the container marked properly? The container was a clear 2qt Lock-n-Lock by Rubbermaid. It was camo taped to match the pine tree it was originally placed in. A small "Official Groundspeak Geocache" sticker on the lid, with email/cellphone contact information (laminated) inside of it with the logbook. Looking at the video, from where the Bomb Squad had detonated the cache at, it was in or towards the middle of the parking lot. This is not where the cache was originally placed at all. The cache was placed @ the end of the parking lot, in a small pine tree near a retention pond. (Clearly away from the building, far end of the parking lot) This cache was not easy to spot in its hiding place either, quite a few times I have gone over to check on the cache, parked right in front of it & could not see it. So it to have been moved out into the open, prior to calling PSP, Titusville PD & the Erie Bomb Squad by someone or something. The cache lived a short but good life of 13 months & 1 day, helped quite a few TBs & coins out & last but not least gave 79 cachers a smiley.

I would like to put a request in for Pa

Was out checking a cache a few weeks back in the vicinity of a Gas Station, when I came out the woods with a Pa State Trooper telling me not to move. After some brief explaining of what I was doing, he checked my ID for W/Ws (Wants & Warrants) & released me. Rather funny though as I was explaining further to what I was doing, I found the cache & showed him. The initial call that he received was "Some crazy man wearing camo shorts, black sleeveless shirt & a camo ballcap walking in & out of the woods". Had no problem though, he just doing his job.