steve638

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Just want to thank you all for the comments, facts, and experiences. Based on what I've read from all comments in this thread and other information(some links I followed from this thread) you all helped shape my thoughts on this topic. I'm no expert and am still learning. Keep in mind these are just my thoughts not recommendations for changes to policy as I suggested in the OP. 1. I agree with the guidelines that no caches should be allowed on military post. Sorry, to all you deployed SM it may get you in trouble. 2. People are going to place them on military post and there isn't much you can do about it as long as reviewers allow them to be published. 3. I do encourage people to visit our military bases to visit public places. Ie. Museums, labeled historical spots, and other places encouraged by our post policies(fishing&hunting). Not Motor Pools, ASP's and Arty impact area's(although there's some people I could think that should visit arty impact area's). 4. For anyone who wants to place a cache on post I suggest this instead, kind of like the old virtual caches linked together. Create a multi stage cache that requires a cacher to go from site to site gathering information with the actual cache located off and away from post. Ie. Have cachers travel from museums and historical places on post, using that information to locate the actual cache off post. This is one suggestion anyone else have others ?

I was going by what I saw on google maps provided when you search. By the map it looks like on post, my bad.

Well after reading everyones responses I see I opened a can of worms! Thanks for all the good comments please keep them coming.

There's no clarification needed, the wording is clear in the guidelines: "Caches may be quickly archived if we see the following (which is not inclusive)" Note that statement is drastically different from: "Caches will be quickly archived if we see the following (which is not inclusive)" which doesn't appear in the guidelines. Caches on military bases are not technically allowed, but I know of at least one that was listed recently because the hider got permission from the commanding officer of the base! With verifiable permission, some of the more 'extreme' off-limits locations can have caches. So, to the OP, if you want to hide one on a military base, have at it. It should be no problem provided appropriate permission can be obtained and verified (ie not from a member of the grounds crew ) I'm an active duty soldier and will look into what it takes to place one on post. I don't know if I have to go all the way to the post commander but that would be interesting. Both me and my Troop Commander go caching and are interested in this topic as I tried to place one and it was shot down due to being placed on post and is in violation of placing on or near military post.

My personal thoughts are that as long as there are some things in the cache for non believers it's ok. I leave military related stuff in caches but not recruitment information. I'll leave dog tags with religious themes some times or just a army sticker. If your the owner and out there doing maintenance and don't want items in your caches you can remove them. Cache in trash out!

This reply is made in humor! After watching MONSTER QUEST on TV there was evidence of Sasquatch DNA found at a house in Northern Canada and many reports of Sasquatch ranging down to here in the US. Here we have a photo of a Sasquatch searching for something somewhere and looking rather disturbed. As you can see his left hand is hiding something that may resembles a small camoed marbel container. Many of the caches in question have disappeared out in the woods.

Placing caches on military post, should it be allowed or not allowed ? I hope posting this doesn't get the caches removed because there are many excellent places to visit on our military post. According to the guidelines you should not. You'll find this by following the link: Caches near or on military installations. http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx I'm an active duty service member and personally don't have any problem with placing them on post, my personal opinion may not count though. Also here's some caches located on military post, I won't list to many in case people start reporting them to be removed. Ft. Knox http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...9f-e34ea731dde9 Ft. Bragg http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?id=129482 In Iraq on a US military post http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...a4-5978edbfc232 Some review of the policy needs to be made. Many service members are geocachers and could be used to verify that caches are placed in good locations that won't get them in trouble. I propose that a cache reviewer ask someone near the cache or visit the site themselves to verify that it is a good location if it is located on a post. Some of these may take longer to approve of course. Common sense and a through review of the placement of the cache will be needed requiring more time of our volunteers who do this, thank them for doing this and/or go with them. If you agree with me please let ground speak know so some review of the policy can be made and let a comment here please. If you don't please write why or why not. I'm all in favor of people visiting our post to show support or just to swing by and see some of the very historic sights we have to offer. Ie. Our museums, battle grounds and other places of interest.

1. How did you first hear about geocaching? Heard about it from my parents. 2. Tell me about your first cache? Went with my wife and mother and father in law it was a good find in a small town. We were hooked ever since, but in laws don't do it, father in goes with me when they visit though. 3. Have you had any bad/scary experiences caching? No 4. What is the #1 reason you geocache? Treasure hunting 5. Do you prefer to hunt or hide? hunt 6. What was your favorite cache place? Why? http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...db-f758478b2be1 Had a good time finding it, it was new and different. 7. What was your worst cache? Why? Tough question, don't have a worst or bad experience 8. Have you ever attened a cache event? no 9. Tell me your best caching story? http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...08-55c070fd4ae9 Found a cool led lite for reading books at night with.

Irony on the airlines. Being in the military I thought some of you like this is anecdote. My troop of 135 soldiers and some extra were getting ready to board a flight from Germany to Kwait. We have all our equipment with us and it's only military personal on a civilian flight, this was back in Feb 2004. They provided a list of items we could not take on the plane. I couldn't help but list some that have always stuck out in my mind. I could not bring a lighter or matches! But I could carry my 240B Machine Gun and M-4 Carbine. I could not bring my small scissors! But I could wear a Helmet and Body Armor. I could not my bring my Gerber Multi Tool! But could carry my Gas mask and assorted sensitive items from our arms room. Yes, I had to take each of those items and then some and stuff them in my already over packed dufflebag. Back to topic, I always tell people "Do what you can afford!" If you want to argue with them and can afford the court cost please email me and let me what the outcome was, because I can't!

I bought the Garmin etrex for 70 get's me within 15 to 25 feet of sight. Most I can find few I couldn't just have to search around and know what to look for. The Etrex cost me $70 at walmart, but you could find something used on ebay or elsewhere. Hope this helps. GL