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It is solvable, let say that there is specific rock or path or pile etc. so it need to be shown (or at least part of it) on photo. Similar like thebruce0 commented. So it can be considered as a proof that geocacher was on the location. All caches are about what to do, (or) feel and/or think. When we are talking about virtual caches than word task in guidelines is defined with what to do. So there need to be a task so you have to do something. I think arisoft answered my question.

This could be a key to HQ politics. Since I'm quite new in this game I read lines: "The purpose of the required logging task is to show that the geocacher was at the location. Anything other than that should be optional" like that there should be some kind of task. And since I don't wanna put 'ordinary' cache I would like to make something different but still according to the rules. Maybe rules are not so clear about what happened years ago that have influences to HQ politics..?

what about drawing in a sand, let's say sun or cloud or fish on a beach and take a photo of it. is that acceptable?

Every cache type is about visiting the location You sure about that? Why photographs can't be mandatory? Ok, I can see what are you thinking, but it is similar like you are out of ink in your pen on other cache types... It can happen... This is still what I wanna know.

Guideline says: "The purpose of the required logging task is to show that the geocacher was at the location. Anything other than that should be optional." As I understand this lines there should be task with proof that geocacher was on the location. Is it acceptable login task like "throw your hat in the air and make a photo of it so the mountain or statue is showed behind" (I made up this logging task!) or let's say "cross your fingers and make a photo so object is visible behind your fingers"? I have problems with reviewing this new cache. Answer from reviewer is that "throwing a hat in the air" should be optional, cos virtual cache is about visiting location and not about what should someone do at the location. If I want to put some slightly different task as they are listed as example (make a photo of coordinates or find particular word on sign etc.) the cache won't be published. What is your opinions? Is virtual cache really only about visiting location? Or can you put some task (not additional one) for geocachers to log the find?

I thought guidelines are new, so they should have everything needed for placing the cache listed in the document? Beside I got first post reviewer note where is it listed what should I follow to satisfy criteria for cache to be publish. I did follow the exact guidelines and still, there is a problem like I describe it in first post. 1. I'm talking about public city park without accessing (or photograph) restriction. There are some geocaches in the park already. 2. There are no stated restriction about placing cache on playground. 3. Our country is not listed on the Regional Geocaching Policies wiki. 4. Help center is taking virtual cache as grandfathered type of cache, virtual reward cache have it's own guidelines where is also not stated anything about placing cache on playground. 5. And there are still problems with our reviewer even if I follow first four steps. Ok, I can see you have similar thinking (and I do understand your views), but if there is no restriction about accessing or photographing the place in local laws and I stick to guidelines, how can become that a problem? I believe guidelines should be a document where we can find our answers. If there is no statement about issues inside, than that can not become an issue. We can only talk about opinions from this point on. It is better for everyone to make guidelines clear and strictly.

As I read new guidelines I can not find statement that playground is not appropriate place to place a virtual cache and now I have major problem with publishing this cache. There are still some places which we should avoid but not stated in guidelines or in regional geocaching policies Wiki. How can we be sure where we can and where we can not place particular geocache without asking reviewer if some place is ok with him or not..?