TJCrebs

Hi BW, You wrote: << Do you think the USFS is going to pay for a membership. As I said it MAY HELP ALLEVIATE.>> Nope, I don't think the present USFS does anything remotely rational for geocaching. But, please stay on point: HOW MAY Pay-per-Play help ANY regulatory agency?? I know you're a bit emotional about the USFS, but try to stay on thread. <> Wow, questioning my geocaching creditials? OK--my "single" Dinosaur Ridge Colorado stash was the most popular geocache on the PLANET according to www.geocache.com during October-2001--(258 logged, televised on FoxTV, and each log-camera-photo-uploaded-to-my-website in the 365 days it existed). But you may be right, my Dino cache coulda been just a lucky location, and you must definately be a much more successful geocacher than I am based upon your finds/hides. But I find it hard to defer to your "superior geocaching skills" when you don't rationally repond to anyone questioning your logic or statements on these forums. Please enlighten us. If I remember right, BW--the last time other geocachers questioned your thinking or statements you just deleted the whole USFS-Forum thread you started. BTW, BW, it's not considered polite to call anyone a "WHINER" when your motives or statements are questioned. You may indeed be a "superior geocacher", but I think your forum manners need a bit more polish. Regards, T.

Hi BW, You wrote: << Do you think the USFS is going to pay for a membership. As I said it MAY HELP ALLEVIATE.>> Nope, I don't think the present USFS does anything remotely rational for geocaching. But, please stay on point: HOW MAY Pay-per-Play help ANY regulatory agency?? I know you're a bit emotional about the USFS, but try to stay on thread. <> Wow, questioning my geocaching creditials? OK--my "single" Dinosaur Ridge Colorado stash was the most popular geocache on the PLANET according to www.geocache.com during October-2001--(258 logged, televised on FoxTV, and each log-camera-photo-uploaded-to-my-website in the 365 days it existed). But you may be right, my Dino cache coulda been just a lucky location, and you must definately be a much more successful geocacher than I am based upon your finds/hides. But I find it hard to defer to your "superior geocaching skills" when you don't rationally repond to anyone questioning your logic or statements on these forums. Please enlighten us. If I remember right, BW--the last time other geocachers questioned your thinking or statements you just deleted the whole USFS-Forum thread you started. BTW, BW, it's not considered polite to call anyone a "WHINER" when your motives or statements are questioned. You may indeed be a "superior geocacher", but I think your forum manners need a bit more polish. Regards, T.

Hi BW You wrote: << There will be caches for members only, that will not be accesible to non-charter members. This may help alleviate any cache jacking or interference from any regulatory agency. So it does have some pros and cons just like anything else. >> Please explain how your first sentence above doesn't denote a "Pay-to-Play" geocache option? I think we all understand that there will remain a "free" geocache option, but I don't think divvying up geocachers into "member" and "non-member" groups is good for any grassroot sport. Also, could you please explain how this new $30/year membership is going to alleviate regulatory agency interference? Do regulatory agencies really prefer dealing with commercial entities/corporations over the public?? Are you still volunteering for the USFS? Have you managed to change that agency's mind about geocaches NOT being "abandoned property"? Will the USFS/fortress ever let a modium of democracy over the moat and allow any public input/comment on their present geocaching rules and regulations? Regards, T.

Hi BW You wrote: << There will be caches for members only, that will not be accesible to non-charter members. This may help alleviate any cache jacking or interference from any regulatory agency. So it does have some pros and cons just like anything else. >> Please explain how your first sentence above doesn't denote a "Pay-to-Play" geocache option? I think we all understand that there will remain a "free" geocache option, but I don't think divvying up geocachers into "member" and "non-member" groups is good for any grassroot sport. Also, could you please explain how this new $30/year membership is going to alleviate regulatory agency interference? Do regulatory agencies really prefer dealing with commercial entities/corporations over the public?? Are you still volunteering for the USFS? Have you managed to change that agency's mind about geocaches NOT being "abandoned property"? Will the USFS/fortress ever let a modium of democracy over the moat and allow any public input/comment on their present geocaching rules and regulations? Regards, T.

Hi BD, I had no idea there even was a "charter membership", until I saw your thread this morning (yeah, I don't get out much .) Here's the link: http://www.geocaching.com/subscribe/ Quite I bit of discussion on the forums today, about paying $30 a year to support Geocaching.com. I think Jeremy's done an outstanding job promoting and managing the website and the sport. However, this new "commercialization" of geocaching is a bit sad for me. I think I liked the sport better when it was smaller & less commercial (i.e., no travel bugs, hats, T-shirts, etc.), and less competative (no contests, cache dashes, etc.). Everything changes or evolves but I guess I would prefer geocaching staying small and more personal. A year ago, I think I knew 90% of the geocachers in Colorado--all the newbies are nice, but I find miss the comradary of the "old guard". I'd like to support Jeremy with a yearly donation, but economic times are too tight in my business. I can't afford presently to join PBS or this new charter membership. I'm forced to stay with the "free-geocache" rather than the new "pay-to-play" option. Regards, T.