SterlingConnie

Hope you find geocaches better than statements on the forums. As someone who seldom hides "normal" caches, I can understand many of the container choices. Although some of them might not be the best ideas, new/unique ideas are hard to come by these days and I appreciate the effort. I have found several of the CO's caches and have looked at many more, and may get to some of them someday. In that area, there is a nice sized group that I have noticed from afar likes to create difficult hides to stump their friends. There are many in the springfield/branson up to columbia area that have VERY few finds. Those are the ones I target in my travels. I've enjoyed all the CO's caches, but to be honest, I haven't found, or looked for any of the examples shown. One of the key points to note, is that if you use containers that have a greater than normal chance to get muggled or ruined, they can be fine if they get more attention (i.e. maint) from the owner. I haven't looked to see if the CO in the examples does, but I do know that knowschad was correct with his statement that the CO is well respected. He is also a charter member and still active and answered every private email about his caches that I have sent (and no, I don't know or have ever met him, just an area I travel to from time to time) The "leaf sandwich" comment was mine. I have a cache out now, and had another years ago, that used real dried leaf matter as camo, but mine was completely glued to the container, then covered with several layers of matte clear finish. I just didn't (and still don't) see how fragile dried leaves glued on like in the video can really withstand handling, given my own experience using leaves in a somewhat similar manner. I would hardly class peanut butter jars with those other "trash containers" that were referred to (altoid cans, ice cream buckets, peanut butter jars, coffee cans, and a host of other food related containers.) Peanut butter jars make excellent containers. I have found literally thousands of them. I agree wholeheartedly that the others generally make lousy containers (although any container will work in the right circumstances). Anyway, glad you showed up, SterlingConnie. And thanks for trying to come up with original ideas, even if a few of them hit the fan. It happens. Seriously, peanut butter jars make excellent containers, and to top it off you've found them by the thousands? Get real!!! Since when have non-waterproof containers that have permanently absorbed food odors that attract animals/bugs start making excellent containers? I've came across my share of bad containers/placements throughout the years, and that got me to thinking........Something must be done to help to put and end to this madness! That's when I came up with my idea. Go out and duplicate some of this nonsense I've stumbled across in my past, and use them as examples as how not to hide/place a geocache. I guess I'll call it dumb luck, but for one of my examples I actually used a plastic peanut butter jar. I've encountered enough of these "excellent" containers to know how well they hold up. I'll put a link here to that cache. Please take a moment to read a few of the logs. This cache has been active for nearly 1.5yrs now. Excellent containers, really? Cachetastrophe: Trashtastrophe - Hider Edition Yes, I was serious. And yes, thousands. Of course that's a guess, but not hyperbole. I would say that peanut butter jars are the most common cache container around here that is bigger than a nano, and I can only recall ONE that was chewed up badly enough to cause problems. I would not be surprised that 1/5 of my finds have been peanut butter jars, but who's counting. The point is that they do make good containers. I think that you are sounding a bit agressive with me... please note that I was the one that said that I was uncomfortable discussing this without you being present, and also the one that pointed out that you seemed to be a respected hider in your neck of the woods. Please relax... I am not the enemy. I merely expressed some opinions and personal experiences, OK? Sounding aggressive wasn't my intent. I know that sometimes comments in any forum that were intended to mean one thing can come across to sound like another, or the reader misinterprets them. It happens. I'll part this thread in peace, shaking hands with all contributors, albeit some may be covered in peanut butter, altoid dust, or even margarine.

Hope you find geocaches better than statements on the forums. As someone who seldom hides "normal" caches, I can understand many of the container choices. Although some of them might not be the best ideas, new/unique ideas are hard to come by these days and I appreciate the effort. I have found several of the CO's caches and have looked at many more, and may get to some of them someday. In that area, there is a nice sized group that I have noticed from afar likes to create difficult hides to stump their friends. There are many in the springfield/branson up to columbia area that have VERY few finds. Those are the ones I target in my travels. I've enjoyed all the CO's caches, but to be honest, I haven't found, or looked for any of the examples shown. One of the key points to note, is that if you use containers that have a greater than normal chance to get muggled or ruined, they can be fine if they get more attention (i.e. maint) from the owner. I haven't looked to see if the CO in the examples does, but I do know that knowschad was correct with his statement that the CO is well respected. He is also a charter member and still active and answered every private email about his caches that I have sent (and no, I don't know or have ever met him, just an area I travel to from time to time) The "leaf sandwich" comment was mine. I have a cache out now, and had another years ago, that used real dried leaf matter as camo, but mine was completely glued to the container, then covered with several layers of matte clear finish. I just didn't (and still don't) see how fragile dried leaves glued on like in the video can really withstand handling, given my own experience using leaves in a somewhat similar manner. I would hardly class peanut butter jars with those other "trash containers" that were referred to (altoid cans, ice cream buckets, peanut butter jars, coffee cans, and a host of other food related containers.) Peanut butter jars make excellent containers. I have found literally thousands of them. I agree wholeheartedly that the others generally make lousy containers (although any container will work in the right circumstances). Anyway, glad you showed up, SterlingConnie. And thanks for trying to come up with original ideas, even if a few of them hit the fan. It happens. Seriously, peanut butter jars make excellent containers, and to top it off you've found them by the thousands? Get real!!! Since when have non-waterproof containers that have permanently absorbed food odors that attract animals/bugs start making excellent containers? I've came across my share of bad containers/placements throughout the years, and that got me to thinking........Something must be done to help to put and end to this madness! That's when I came up with my idea. Go out and duplicate some of this nonsense I've stumbled across in my past, and use them as examples as how not to hide/place a geocache. I guess I'll call it dumb luck, but for one of my examples I actually used a plastic peanut butter jar. I've encountered enough of these “excellent” containers to know how well they hold up. I'll put a link here to that cache. Please take a moment to read a few of the logs. This cache has been active for nearly 1.5yrs now. Excellent containers, really? Cachetastrophe: Trashtastrophe - Hider Edition

Thanks for the info on the cache log requirements, but this is the same guideline information I was already familiar with. I was thinking that perhaps there was something new I was unaware of, but it appears not. Anyway, when I read that requirement I ask myself, does the water bottle cache meet the guidelines? Cache containers include a logsheet or logbook. For all physical caches, there must be a logbook, scroll or other type of log for geocachers to record their visit. Okay, does my water bottle include a log sheet or book? There's no sheet of paper if sheet refers to paper, and there certainly isn't a book style log that one can actually flip thru pages, and there definitely isn't a scroll style log either. According to the guideline I have one last option, and that option is "other type of log". Now there is no clarification on what qualifies as "other type of log", but scratching your name into the container would sure fit. Can you record your visit with this “other type of log”? YES! The guideline also states that cache containers "include" a log. Okay, the bottle includes a log. The guideline doesn't specify exactly where on the container it is to be included, only that it must "include". It doesn't say it must be on the inside, outside, or scratched in(other type of log). It appears that the water bottle cache has met the guidelines, or are there additional ones lurking out there that I'm unaware of?

I figured since those are my videos I should add something. Honestly I surprised by the amount of distress caused by the waterbottle cache. I suppose it would fall into the category of “trash caches”. Probably most of us have found caches of this type. Items destined for our trash cans end up as geocache containers all the time. Items like: altoid cans, ice cream buckets, peanut butter jars, coffee cans, and a host of other food related containers. Since I usually don't troll the forums much, I wonder if there are similar conservations frowning on like cache setups? Concerning the comment on the “Leaf Sandwich” container.... Hate to be a bubble buster here, but I actually have this setup in place, and has been for 3.5yrs now. Not only has it survived well beyond on 2 finders, the ORIGINAL CONTAINER AND LOG are to this very day in fine shape. Next.....concerning the container and logbook. I not a guideline placement expert, but have a general understanding of them, so it's possible I've overlooked something in that respect? Could someone direct me to the section concerning the logbook?

I checked my list this morning at it appeared fine. I then changed the sorts from 20 to 200. That's when I problem suddenly reappeared, just like in the images I posted above.

I can't delete Hometown History from my list, cuz it's not on it even though it shows it, plus I never added it, it's just there!?????? I don't linger on the first page either, maybe a couple of seconds before I try then next page or select a different sort number. I'm doing nothing different than I've done in the past few years. Thanks for the ideas tho.

My issue continues. I am adding a couple of images of the top and bottom of the bookmark page as it appears when I view it.

Yes, I have already tried all that with IE, Firefox, and Chrome with no luck.

For about a week now when I open my "FTF" bookmark list it is has been really messed up. First at the top of that page, the BM list name isn't mine, the owner of this list is someone else, and the description belongs to someone else too. The next odd thing is that the list by default should show 20 per page, but this page shows 95 which are mine and then one extra. The extra one(after 95) is nothing I have ever found, let alone a FTF. When I click next page I only get a repeat of the first page, nothing changes. My list should show a total of 185 caches too, but it doesn't. Maybe this is an issue that is affecting others? Just thought I would check, thanks.

I recently noticed that when doing a search from my account page by clicking the "Search for nearest caches from your home coordinates (filter out finds)" will now only bring up four pages of results with a maxium distance of 49 miles. It use to let me browse many pages of results. Is this a option to setup somewhere? Thanks

I just installed Easy Gps 2.0. My previous version was 1.3.7. In 1.3.7 the screen would load a gpx or loc file in a table type format with options on how to arrange the waypoints, by name, distance to active point and so on. But 2.0 opens up the waypoints in a map style format. Can this view be toggled back to the table style view? Thanks

When I look at my stat bar it says I have found 136, but when I go to user stats>all cache finds it says 135. Not sure where the other one went or which one it is.

Where do I post a pic to the bug I'am finding or dropping off? I see that there is a gallery for the TB, but if I post my pic on the cache log page I'am dropping off at it will not show up on the TB gallery. Thanks

A cache that I put out shows the icon that it has a travel bug, and the log entries also indicate that one should be there. But there is not one there. Either someone removed it and didn't enter it or maybe it wasn't even there. I don't know. Just wondering how I remove the icon from the cache info page? Thanks

Me and a friend went geocaching yesterday. We were both using the yellow sportrak. At one cache we were trying to find, my gps was giving all kinds of bad info. It was telling me that we were 15 miles away from the cache and at times it would say I was several hundred feet away. Only once did I get a reading that matched what the other gps. It also showed that I was locked on to several satallites during the time I was receiving the bad info. Sometimes it would also show me moving and momentarily freeze when I wasn't moving. When we left the area my gps seemed to return to normal, but my friends never messed up like mine, and we were using the same gps. I was wondering if my gps may have a problem? When I got home I read the logs for this cache and noticed that several people noted that they found the cache but it was about 200' from where it was suppose to be. But mine was showing a distance anywhere from 500' to 15 miles.