Campcreekers

We have a couple of whiners in our area too. I personnaly see some of the ALRs as being beneficial to the game. The question is do I go find them and play along or do I whine about someone who has placed a cache with an ALR. I had a simple ALR on a cache and that was to ask for a small rhyme when logging. It could have been two words that rhymed or a roses are red..... But there are those out there who are in it only to boost there numbers and this ALR is to much like working a little bit to earn a smiley. I have since removed the rhyming part of the cache and it is now a traditional cache only. to the whiners I say, play the game the way you want to play it and I'll play it the way I want to play it. There is no rule that says you have to go and do the ones that had an ALR. I say bring it back, it enhances the game. Granted some ALRs were pretty stupid in my eyes , but I have the choice of not participating just as i would if it was placed in a bed of Poison Ivy.I am sure the person that placed the cache thought it was pretty cool, and that is the beauty of the game. Play it the way you want ot play and quit whinig about how others choose to play Some of the funnest caches I have done have been ALRs.To me complaning about how others play the game is senseless.

I did one and loved it.

I try to send an E-Mail to them. I think it might encourage them to hide caches. I have always said treat others the way you expect to be treated. I always- well not Always try to edit the cache page itself to reflect FTF's. This is somewhat of a reward for the FTFer. I don't always put a prize for the FTF in the container and this may offer a bit of a consulation prize! But really to each his own. I personaly like the idea of finding $100.00 bills as a FTF instead of an E-Mail!

It appears that the Tin Man won't be having any little Tin Babys!

I would say, Stake it out and challenge the would be muggle with a sawed off shot gun IT IS VERY EFFECTIVE! Support your local redneck, become one!

I know I am going to upset some people with this response, but ya Know what, I really don't care! I think that the people whining about the PAF probably for the most part don't own close to fifty caches. I would be so Pi#$%ed if everybody were calling me for a hint. I do not mind giving hints, don't get me wrong, I love to. In fact I really enjoy talking to people who enjoy the same Hobby as I do. It's just that I don't want a phone call every hour of the day or night to help someone who hasn't even tried. The people that call me for a hint are Honest, fun loving people who I believe really try hard. Some may say it's about the numbers. SO WHAT! I'll row my conoe and you row yours. Don't tell me how to run my operation and I won't tell you how to run yours. I consider Geocaching as a form of entertainment, I enjoy the hunt, I enjoy the movies. Do what you are comfortable with and don't tell me what movie to see as my entertainment. If you want people to call you as a cache owner, by all means list your phone number right in the hint section of your hide. If you are not willing to do that then quit your Belly Ache'n about how someone else plays the game. It just drives me nuts to think that some cachers think they are the End All and Be All of Geocachers. It's a Hobby, Game, Sport, For Gods sake chill Out, Enjoy. Now with all that said, it's time for me to chill out. Oh by the way Have A Nice Day! Everybody ain't loaded and can spend their lifes savings on gas geocaching. Another plus for PAF!

Ditto. I don't know about "WRONG, WRONG, WRONG", but this sport is supposed to be a cache hunt. What kind of hunt is it if you get someone to tell you where it it is? I personnaly have 42 hides including 2 I have placed for my 76 year old mother. I don't care how people do it as long as they have fun doing! after all isn't that what its all about!

We have a local cacher thats thinks it is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG to phone a friend when you have exausted all but one resource (the phone a friend). What do you think?

Well whine about it will ya! I don't Know all the circumstances behind a cache like this nor do I care. If you don't like the rules of a particular cache don't go go look for it. Or go hide your own make your own rules. I personally had someone name a travel bug after me and I was thrilled. Find something better to do with your time rather than whine about something you can't control!

I own a Nuvi 200, Nuvi 350, and a NUvi 360. The 200 seems to be the best as far as letting you know how close you are to the cache. I agree with Aye-Ch they do work. However i am looking into getting a handheld just to see what the fuss is all about!

Exellent idea, the only problem is this. I told my wife the ski-boat,recliner and civil war relics won't fit in the caches so I guess we will have to hang on to them!

This may sound mean but I have seen containers that look like dog S%#$T and I have found them near dog runs. Oh, wait a minute that was dog S&^$T. You may not like me and I know I don't like you 'cause you just got in the car with somethin' on your shoe!

Hey man/woman, what ever trips your trigger, I'm too stupid to decode even the easiiest ones DUH! I say if it feels good do it! Mom always told me I wasn't exactly the brightest bulb in the tree!

Well it looks like you have been bitten by the signal frog!

I have found that a full Gilly Suit usually does the trick. Three elements at work here 1.) Complete stealth 2.) Element of suprise 3) 50 caliber sniper rifle=show of force. However I prefer full contact caching!

If some knucklehead wants to cheat on his/her count. Why is it any of my buisness. I have 22 caches. I don't check every online entry against the logbook. Who are they cheating? Me, you, No they are cheating themselves. It must get them aroused in some way. Yes, I suppose it bothers me a little too but why don't we focus our attention to something we can make a difference in, like eliminating cheating at chess,checkers, or hopskotch.

I actually comitted a murder on the way to a cache once. When I hit him he had the dear in the headlight look, but then again, he had every right tio look that way. He WAS a deer.

You must have some idea of a guideline that may help the aprehensive cacher "hide" some. What do you think would be fair, say, 50 finds to 1 hide, 100-1? I personally have hidden about 1 to 10, but that doesn't make me a Saint. My mother is 75 yrs old and has hidden only 1. I think it is a great accomplishment that she hid the 1. My point is this, some enjoy looking at their hides online and some people don't want to, or can't for variuos reasons. I would much rather look for a hide that was well placed and carfully thought out rather than look for one that someone felt they had to hide just to feel that they "belong"