Cache Dummies

There was Top25 ranking list on the Dutch site www.geocaching.nl but I can't find it anymore since a couple of hours (coincedence?). But I found a good site with the overall ranking lists. So indeed there is some need for ranking lists.... http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/countries.cgi?country=netherlands Guys, thank you all for your replies and enjoy your further hunts!

If it isn't a game, why is there then a ranking list? Not really consequent..... Robin

At least you agree that when you can grab 20-30 caches a day (which country are you living in that you can grab 20-30 a day?) the number of points per cache should be less than the 1/5 cache taking you days to solve. Do you think it's fair to place yourself in the top25 ranking by grabbing drive- in caches only, I don't think so? The more simple the rules, the more arbitrary it is of course. However to keep it simple I propose simple rules (for example terrain 1 point per star, difficulty 1 point per star). It doesn't make sense to count every rattlesnake in the surrounding(we even don't have snakes in Holland)or give you extra points if you miss your legs (if you play football you also don't get extra points if you miss your legs......). If you don't like the competition element for whatever reason, well just play for yourself. It's no obligation at all. Robin

There's nothing against anyone who only wants to compete against himself. I also believe this is the main challenge. But I also think there are plenty of geocachers who would like to know their position on the world/ region ranking list and want to play against other teams. I believe some competition in the game makes it even more fun as it is already. To support this a ranking based on effort (more difficult caches gives you more points, so if you can't climb that 5 star mountain or don't like multicaches, you have to find more drive-in caches to get the same points)would be better. I believe it can be a next step in this young sport. Robin

I have an idea to improve the ranking list to bring the competition element in the game: - instead of getting one 'point' for every cache you get a number of points based on the difficulty of the hunt (multicache, more stars gives more points than drive in caches). - everybody should be able to see their ranking in the world/ europe/ region. Now in the Netherlands there's only a top 25, which is very limited. Robin