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    Premium Members only caches vs. "Commercial" caches, and by whose authority does Geocaching.com "control" geocaching?

    in General geocaching topics

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    i still haven't heard: is it textile if you wear only leather?

     

    and what other thread? i want to see! (cheap joke ommitted)

     

    i am DYING for the grand denouement. who is our mysterious sally? y-chromosome-bearing goddess-worshipping never leaves the rez of course there are no pictures sally?

     

    there's a nude picture of me. find it at your own risk. in most of the other pictures i am nudity challenged.

    Does thou speak to me?

     

    If so-Behold the angst that begat angst. :signalviolin:

    Political Caching

    in General geocaching topics

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    i do not mean to imply that all people who are against illegal immigration are racist, but any fool can see that many are. of course, many people don't think racism is a bad thing either, and it too gets politicized.

    I was wondering when you'd break out the race card. How is race an issue in illegal immigration? Do those who dislike the concept of a particular nation's laws being flaunted belong to one particular race? Do they dislike, mistreat or malign any particular race? Since the onus of your posts focus on Mexican nationals crossing the Northern border of their country, would you classify Mexican as a race? Would the French qualify as a separate race in your book? Italians? Scots? Peruvians? Perhaps our 'gubment' schools are failing to teach the definition of racism these days. Just a suggestion; If you need to apply "ism's" just to keep your foundering argument afloat, wouldn't "nationalism" be more accurate than "racism"? Personally, I don't like the concept of anybody violating another country's borders illegally, regardless of what race they might be.

     

    this is kind of like calling me a straw man. you're not really engaging me. it is interesting that you do not make the claim about vtmtnman, who mentioned it above me.

     

    i don't claim (if you whip out your handy-dandy reading comprehension) that the anti-illegal movement is racist, but that it has racist components. "nationalism" isn't usually properly used in reference to bias against nation. we usually use "racism" to describe that.

     

    if your argument (and your intent) is that illegal immigration is wrong because it's expensive or dangerous or even just because you support law and order, you are not being racist.

     

    if you are against it because you don't want more hispanics (or vietnamese, or kenyans...) here, it is racist. there are people of both stripe in the mix. you cannot have a full and fair discussion of it without acknowledging it.

     

    and yes, i do place the majority of the focus on mexicans crossing our southern border. don't you? we don't have a lot of problems with canadians crossing illegally. mabe they do, but it isn't the hot button topic that mexicans and other hispancs are in the southern border states. folks in those states get pretty het up about it, and for a lot of different reasons.

     

    what argument, exactly, do you think i'm making that's foundering? my essential point was to make some observations about how this issue becomes political. are you trying to argue that it's not political? perhaps you wish to assert that racial bias has nothing to do with the general issue? that it isn't a difficult problem? that it isn't related to the larger issue of the history of immigration? i think these were my salient points.

     

    are you perhaps trying to tease out that i'm in favor of illegal immigration? that'd be a tough one, 'coz i'm not in favor of it. so what argument of mine is failing, exactly?

     

    do you actually have a point other than to make weak attempts to cut me down? i do this for entertainment. i clip excerpts and send them to my friends.

    Uh,woah now,I'm not calling anyone strawman,or whatever,and the intent of my post was not to cut you down.I apologize if you thought that was the intent.I was adding to the debate is all.You posted while I was typing,and I was to lazy to edit it.

    Political Caching

    in General geocaching topics

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    like it or not, illegal immigrants for the most part form a kind of underclass that is often much abused. they often come to escape what we would consider intolerable conditions.

     

    we take lot of things like clean water for granted.

     

    sometimes we get to know these folks personally. they become real people to us. we want to help them.

     

    shoplifters, for the most part, are simply thieves. sometimes when we get to know their stories we find people in desperate need and we want to help them, too.

     

    immigration has always been linked to larger issues, though. it has always been tied up in job security, wages, language, racial prejudice, blah, blah, blah. it may be possible for individuals to consider the problems of immigration (neverind illegal immigration!) without being influenced by those factors, but it would be very, very silly of us to try to divorce the concepts from the political storm surrounding them.

     

    it isn't always the same people and the same parties, but they keep being the same issues.

     

    we must not let any more irish into this country; they are dirty and lazy and drunken. they are prone to crime and they are stupid and prone to violence. the irish will take jobs away from real americans by working for lower wages. they will burden what few services we have.

     

    oh, wait. that was the 1840's. see? same stuff, different decade.

    We are talking "illegal." Do laws matter anymore?

    This is proof that you cannot be against ILLEGAL immigration without being considered against ALL immigration.The difference then was blatant hate and racism.Today it's laziness to do appriate paperwork.

     

     

    uh, no. refer to my post, above.

     

    You posted while I was typing. :rolleyes:

    Political Caching

    in General geocaching topics

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    like it or not, illegal immigrants for the most part form a kind of underclass that is often much abused. they often come to escape what we would consider intolerable conditions.

     

    we take lot of things like clean water for granted.

     

    sometimes we get to know these folks personally. they become real people to us. we want to help them.

     

    shoplifters, for the most part, are simply thieves. sometimes when we get to know their stories we find people in desperate need and we want to help them, too.

     

    immigration has always been linked to larger issues, though. it has always been tied up in job security, wages, language, racial prejudice, blah, blah, blah. it may be possible for individuals to consider the problems of immigration (neverind illegal immigration!) without being influenced by those factors, but it would be very, very silly of us to try to divorce the concepts from the political storm surrounding them.

     

    it isn't always the same people and the same parties, but they keep being the same issues.

     

    we must not let any more irish into this country; they are dirty and lazy and drunken. they are prone to crime and they are stupid and prone to violence. the irish will take jobs away from real americans by working for lower wages. they will burden what few services we have.

     

    oh, wait. that was the 1840's. see? same stuff, different decade.

    We are talking "illegal." Do laws matter anymore?

    This is proof that you cannot be against ILLEGAL immigration without being considered against ALL immigration.The difference then was blatant hate and racism.Today it's laziness to do appriate paperwork.

     

    The thing I always found amusing was watching anti-illegal immigration demonstrations on the news.Ummm,hello,if you're protesting illegal immigration laws,probably 90% of them are illegals.Send INS down to the rally and start checking green cards.You'd probably get half of them there.

     

    Oh opps,my bad...that sounds like profiling(Or probably racist in someway).What WAS I thinking,this being 21st century America and all. :rolleyes: Surely I'll be judged harshly.

    Non-Geographic Geocaching Organizations

    in General geocaching topics

    Posted

    I'll say this gets moved tooooo.....GC Website.

     

    This thread moved to the Geocaching Website forum? Why? Did think there should maybe a specific thread to talk about features and such of this site, though. This was the best place I could find to post a request like this.

    I'd have thought GC website.I do agree however with your suggestion about Non regional groups.

    Placing a cache at a nudist resort

    in General geocaching topics

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    There are caches in parks and places that require a fee. Just warn people in advance.

     

    I don't get the negative connection between kids and nudity. A child is not born knowing shame for his body. A child seeing a nude body is not going to immediately think of sex.

     

    I hope nobody sits on the box while logging his/her find.

    if you are going to place it at a nudest resort then don't post the cache on geocaching.com

    nobody wants to go see nude people that is just rude.

    That would be just as bad as placing a cache in a stripping club this idea is not appreate to be posting on geocaching.com

     

    don't post the cache on geocaching.com
    The problem with getting it post on geocaching.com is if the resort charges a fee the cache will not get posted anyway. If there is no fee I do not see a problem, just make the difficulty a 4 or 5.

     

    stripping club this idea is not appreate to be posting on geocaching.com

    Give me a break.A Stripping club and a Nudist resort is like comparing apples to oranges, they are in no way the same type of location. A strip club is there for sexual stimulation, a nudist resort is not.

    hey there are parents who take their little kids geocaching and i don't think they would be happy with this one

    That's why if sexy sally here lists that before hand it's all good.

    new to geocaching

    in How do I...?

    Posted

    Some advice bud...Log a 'found it' once.Anything after that is a noteOtherwise you end up in this thread.. :o

    well we found it i just couldn't log it because I was not a member of geocaching yet but now I am so I will go back and log it.

    No no,You're good there.I mean after you start caching,and find that a cache has been missing and you log it anyways as found.Some folks hate that thread,but it's actually a great thread in the sense that it teaches integrity... <_<

     

    The other posters where correct.When I started caching,I found a couple caches before I had a screen name,so I logged them in the book,then made a profile and logged them online.As a side note,looging online is optional,but logging in the cache log is courteous. :unsure:

     

    Cache on.

    Mislabeling cache listing

    in General geocaching topics

    Posted

    Some older caches are listed as traditional that should be either mystery or multi. When I started geocaching this was very common. You had to read the cache page <_< . Paperless caching has turned us into zombies who blindly follow the arrow on the GPS without reading. :o Perhaps we need an attribute - Cache can/cannot be done without reading the cache page. :unsure:

    Yes :unsure:

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