[Submergable containers and Keeping Cords. Dry]

This could be a pretty tough proposition. Water is a powerful force. I assume the water in question will probably be muddy.

 

The combination of erosion, mud and submersion make for a tough environment.

 

Also there is added pressure in submersion (not tremendously significant in 4 feet, but still a consideration). What works with shallow water might not work if it is submerged just a little deeper.

 

I would think a combination of techniques would be best. Perhaps get an engraved ALuminum dog tag and place it in a jar with a coarse threaded or gasketed lid.

 

The engraved tag would thus not be subject to mud and erosion.

 

I have had 2 caches out that were submerged for some periods of time and did not leak, but not any that were designed for permanent submersion.

 

One was a waterproof matchbox as shown by brianSnat and others in your other thread. I had it in a storm sewer for several years and it went through many deluges satisfactorily. Another is a plastic jar from WalMart with a stainless steel ring around the top, a gasket, and a stainless steel lever closure system. It cost about 5 bucks. It is under a rock beside a creek that generally floods twice yearly. It has been submerged in about 2-3 feet of water for as much as a month. No leaks yet.

 

A very important consideration for your purposes is also that the closure and seal be foolproof. Fools cache, and they will find a way to not close it properly.

 

Hope some of this helps.

I like the dog tag in the jar also, what section of walmart did you get the jar at?

also I appricate all your help in all my threads. Jason

[Submergable containers and Keeping Cords. Dry]

Several of my caches are submerged. I use a bison tube. My log sheets are write in the rain paper so that damp hands or a drop of water from the rest of the cache container doesn't ruin the log sheet. I haven't had a problem (frantically looking for a piece of wood to knock)

 

How big are the bison tubes you use, I have bought severall of ebay, but they look a little cheaper than the ones Ive seen in real caches.

["Trees"- How far is too far? Drilling holes, thumb tax, and nails]

Well, I doubt that will save any controversy... especially on the forums.

 

is that possible?

 

(Looks like I'm a little late posting)

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To all the people that would get upset about drilling holes in my own trees, mabey we should fine them $500.00 for each cache that they start, for littering. Our trashy swag and blown around film canisters are worse for the earth than my 1-2 inch hole"

 

-But im not knocking you, thanks for the dose of realizm.

[My Fingers smell like Mold!]

Thanks all for the great replys, the truth is I don't care If my hands smell like a dead donkey rotting in the sahara desert, but I new if I labled it that way I would get more than enough responces on using the right containers. Looks like my pharm bottles are bad, and the white film canisters have swayed my vote.

[My Fingers smell like Mold!]

Man, knothing takes away the magic of geo-caching like a nice sunny day with everything going right then you find severall wet caches, that make your fingers smell like mold!!! I wan't to boycott the film canisters!! Why do people continue to use them don't you find that this is a maintance nightmare? Every canister I find with a 35 mill after a rain is compleatly damaged. I find that pharmacy pill bottles are 100% waterproof, what do you use and recomend?

This it is true that film canisters leak, it is an overgeneralization. The cans that have a lid that fits over the film can leak badly, while the cans that have the lid that snap into the container are much more waterproof. I use this type of film can in my hand-made rocks with very good results. I have a rock that has been in place for over three years and the log is still bone dry. That being said, if someone wants to hide a cache in a film can (or any other container, really) he/she should consider picking up some appropriately-sized baggies from a local craft store (or crack dealer) to put the log in. That ounce of prevention may save the log.

 

BAD

 

GOOD

 

In my opinion, pharmacy pill bottles are horrible containers. Many of them create a seal by forcing the container against a cardboard circle in the lid. The cardboard will quickly get soaked and allow water to enter.

 

A really good similar-sized container is the cryotube. These containers come in various small sizes and are made to hold up to conditions that are far worse than we expect geocaches to endure.

 

REALLY GOOD

 

Regarding your stinky fingers, wash your hands.

Man thats great!!! thanks for the tips. Where can I get the cryotubes in a lot?

[Submergable containers and Keeping Cords. Dry]

Get them engraved on a metal dog-tag?

 

Or use a Bison Tube.

I thought about that but dont you think that mettal dog tag would rust?

[Submergable containers and Keeping Cords. Dry]

Winter is coming and Im getting ready to plan a sweet leval 5 cache. The 3rd stage will take them to a watery spot that will have the cache compleatly submerged 3-4- feet underwater. I live in tennessee and because the water is mostly moving I dont think the water will freeze, but if the container is flimsy, it may bust, from extremitys. If I use a non waterproof container, like a plastic pharmacy pill bottle, I feel like laminated cocordences, will still get wet and probably ruen. Must I break down and get a professional container? If not what can I put the cords on to keep them around without re-maintance? Please help, I want to do this the right way.

 

Thanks

[Are you a converted Muggle?]

congradulations!!! Thats sweet

[My Fingers smell like Mold!]

I find that pharmacy pill bottles

are 100% waterproof,

Your newbie is showing.

 

ha!! Does that mean im pouting?, or that over time the pill bottles leak also?

 

P.S. I am Kinda Pouting!!!!

[Lazy Cachers? How long is the Longest you've seen for a FTF on a level 1 difficulty new cache?]

Thanks, again nice to know that this happens, looks like my only sollution is to bait, the cachers in like a dog and crumbs. Ill have to start in my big town of cookeville and set caches every 2 miles till they get to my little country town, and then explode with caches here!!!!

["Trees"- How far is too far? Drilling holes, thumb tax, and nails]

Man ,what good responce, I see the benifits of all views posted here, the bottom line at the end of the day is probably to modify my own dead trees or stumps and bring them to the cache site. Save the conserversy

thanks

[My Fingers smell like Mold!]

Man, knothing takes away the magic of geo-caching like a nice sunny day with everything going right

then you find severall wet caches, that make your fingers smell like mold!!! I wan't to boycott the film

canisters!! Why do people continue to use them don't you find that this is a maintance nightmare?

Every canister I find with a 35 mill after a rain is compleatly damaged. I find that pharmacy pill bottles

are 100% waterproof, what do you use and recomend?

[Lazy Cachers? How long is the Longest you've seen for a FTF on a level 1 difficulty new cache?]

I listed my 1st cache easy to find in a public park, and it was listed on Saturday, and still no one has

made an attempt to find it!!! Is this normal?

["Trees"- How far is too far? Drilling holes, thumb tax, and nails]

How far is to far? I have not started many cahes yet, because I do not want

to do it the wrong way!!! Is it wrong to drill holes in trees that are 100% Dead? Is it wrong to drill holes

in 100% Dead stumps? Is it wrong to cut dead stumps out for hides? Are thumb tax in live trees legite?

What about nails? Lets unravell the concreversy so we are not scared to list new postings!!!!!

[Are you a converted Muggle?]

No Im not or was not a muggle, but thought it would be like the ultimate conversion, kinda like turning

a sinner into a saint.

 

"I was once lost, But Now I Find."

 

-mrbeachroach

[adding pics to your gallery]

ya im new to geocaching.com and i dont know how to upload pictures so there in your gallery, alittle help?

 

From what I know try going to your profile page and editing it.

[how do I get my picture to post on the forums]

How do you get your pictures to post on the forums when you submit and also how do you get your signature changed?

[Mystery Cache]

The Idea at hand was to possibly take the existing log book and put it in a ziplock bag with a pencil in it marked "For Logging" Or somthing like that, the pecil eraser would be removable and the inside of the pencil bored out and hollow. Just enough space for the first to find money, and a small log book. Do you think this would work now?

 

P.S. I like the idea of a cache thats not listed on geocaching.com, but where do you find them?

 

Dosen't this just sound funny?

[Are you a converted Muggle?]

Have you been a muggle in the past that stumbled upon geocaching and was converted? Please share your storie. Or if you know of one also thanks

[Decoding Geo-talk abreviations]

Can anyone compleatly decode the geo-talk abreviations found in log books, I figured out tnln, and ftf, and dnf, but that was it? What is some of the other abreviations used?

[Mystery Cache]

Have any of you tried to do a micro cache that was hidden in someone elses cache? Iv heard this idea from a friend on mine and thoght it was cool Idea. What do you think? Also what are some other Ideas for mystery caches?

[Caches-What type of containers do you use]

I have started using the pill containers you get from your pharmasist. they seem to be waterproof you can submerge them and they dont get wet!!!

[Cache cantainer: Good idea or bad?]

I love it go for it!!! I have a 2 year old and this gives us parents a good oportunity to teach our children about safety and responsibility. Life is not a geocache so we need to teach our kids that test it with a stick 1st. The same way you would a geopoop cache!!!! i would however put a disclamer on the waypoint page so parents know what they are getting into, this will weed out the conterversy!! 'jason

[Home page banner]

Hey does anyone know how to get a picture on the homepage banner? Can you do it even if you did not start the cache? I know a great one and would love to see it boasted about on the homepage thanks

 

Jason