jfpinell

You really don't need to start yet another thread about the same topic. As what said in the other thread(s), it's up to your Reviewer. If you haven't heard back, then either post another Reviewer Note or send her an email. B. I'm asking about distance. Look I can tell you people don't care for me. Sorry if I'm not up on top of all the latest etiquette on chat rooms but I don't sit on them all day. I'll find another way to ask questions. People are just too picky on chat rooms for me. Just close this then, huh?

It's all incredibly subjective. Can you give coordinates for where you're talking about? If you can see the site from the school or schoolyard, then I'd say it's too close. Really, this is a better question for your Reviewer to ask instead of all of us here who aren't familiar with the cache placement area and its nuances and regulations. Yeah, the review thingy is being done. Just thought I'd ask. The park that borders it on 1 end is what is making me call it into question. People could sit there all day long on the picnic tables or wandering around or heck, playing family football on the public grounds. I suppose if someone was sitting at the park with a pair of binoculars pointed towards the school that'id be different. But it's the fact that people are there all the time and no one can tell what they're doing or not doing. Like I said it's (hopefully) being presently looked at. Just curious of other opinions on distance. With as open as that area is (there are a few trees scattered) you can see across the entire park into the corn field over 550 ft. away and even further than that. The only thing that prevents you from seeing halfway through town is the rest of the town is below the hill just after the rock quarry beyond the corn field.

Figured what the heck, I'd go measure. Does 270 ft. from a school sound OK? (The original that was ok at first) The other 2 are (were?) 413 ft. from the playground and the 3rd is 530+ ft. (the toy said "0.13 mi."). Even though it shows flat open land there ARE a few trees scattered around the park (none in between the 2 points). I just figured; "If the pavilion & washroom building are where they are in relation to the building people are wandering around the park all the time anyway, so..... Still waiting for a response from "Bec" (Becky, I'm guessing?) Just figured I'd ask if these distances were ok.

That's not strange at all. Would you prefer they kept it in a dusty hangar somewhere where nobody could look at it? You read too many things wrong. Like on loan for decades?? Why not just BUY it or ask them to DONATE it to the Town? The Town pays 50% of the insurance on it every year anyway.

Bolding mine You want to know who owns the plane?? The Air Force Museum does. As you said, it is ON LOAN. Which is why he said he did not place it on the plane. I'm still thinking about it. Heck, all you gotta' do is call the nearest air force base, ain't it? Strange though how it's been on loan for at least the last 35 or 40 years. (It actually was located across the street at the (former) elementary school previously mentioned for years. But that was when society in this Country wasn't paranoid about sue happy people.) I supposed I could ask the local army legion chapter (or whatever they're called)I mean, it WOULD be a rather cute spot.

That's funny because actually the light brown building across the street with all the tall windows WAS an elementary school about 35 years ago! K-4th (originally K-6th but I don't remember that) That's the Town Hall now. UGH....So now the garage comes into issue? (Just kidding!) Actually no one would even notice you -or care if you're there by or in the vicinity of the garage. That's how laid back, if you will, people in that area are. In fact, I can't count the # of times I've casually strolled by the fire station which is literally right next to it looking in at the trucks and no one ever made anything of it -not even the fireman next door to the station. But I asked the Administrator (by the way, he's actually like head of finance and carrying out orders given by the Town Board, not like a Mayor -that's the Village President.) anywho, I asked him if it'id be OK to put one in that antique WW I (I think) plane actually. I wasn't sure who technically owns that, if it's the Town itself or the Legion local post or who. There's a sign that's been there for about 20 years saying; "This plane is on loan from the air force museum". But I figured for-go that problem searching that out and ask him if a spot I had already found was OK. I see a good # of notes from people in support more or less of me here. I wonder if I could point that out as evidence on my e-mail......?

Your reviewer provided her direct email address in the log she left on your cache page. You could email her at that address, or you could post a log on your cache page. Because your listing is currently disabled, you will need to enable the page again to be sure that your reviewer sees your log. She does not have your page on her watchlist. To help you out and save you from retyping everything, I've given your reviewer a link to this forum thread. Google Maps have a map scale at the bottom, so going back and pacing the distances out isn't necessary. I wanted to save you the trouble. You can also exercise your appeal rights if you are unhappy with your reviewer's answer. Information about Appeals can be found here. I'm not sure if that's what I just did but I finally found that "send us an e-mail" area.

Trust me.....I know that area like the back of my hand after being here 40+ years.

Doesn't help the image of men much that so many of the responses include reference to "some male walking around", "mom & tots bothered by some guy acting...." and such. FEMALES commit crimes -even like these- too! I can say that where these are/were, they are not in any vicinity that would scare mommy & little jenny. What lacks today (speaking as society in general goes) is something that used to be called good judgment & common sense. While you don't go putting one right in someone's front yard or just outside the security fence at Area 51 in Nevada using common sense while searching needs to be done too. I've read other posts about "we decided to wait until all the kids & parents were gone....". Well....?? Ahh, if someone is THAT overly proactive then they'd just come back at night after school hours, early in the morning or better on weekends. I read about 1 on here in the last couple days to the extent of "....there were security around because of a local event. Can we still look for it?" (or something to that extent). 1 of the responses was, to put it short, wait & come back afterwards. Simple enough, ain't it? The original is/was the closest to the area of issue -and that was found by a handful of people since early Aug.- which is/was next to a pavilion. So what if someone was sitting at that public park? The newly added 2 about 200+ feet roughly, in front of it, and about 75 or 100 ft. behind the original. None of which locations are going to attract attention -unless people are paranoid about citizens being in a public park. In fact, there is a driveway split in 2....1 going right to the picnic/pavilion area, the other going behind it in the vicinity of #3. Not that it would help anyway, but this is a community where, in the last 40+ years I could count the # of things worse than a speeding ticket on less than 2 hands. An area where everyone knows, or at least recognizes- everyone. In fact, people take short cuts across that playground to the park -even during recess- and if anyone DOES do anything, they wave to you. A bit different than putting one in the middle of the city in a similar set up. What about "nano regular"? That one is/was in a park that is CRAWLING with kids all the time because of the newly added water park (or whatever it's called). No one denied that & no one ever came up to me while I was checking it (every couple days) telling me I was scaring anyone, nor have any police ever been there because of people looking around. There apparently is a newer one further back from mine in that same park which, I believe there was a note saying something like; "don't go at night. People tend to get nervous about flashlights in the area". Well, then duh, don't look for that one at night. (Not to mention there is another kiddie area back that far.) To me, and from other posts I've read here, this one is being taken out of context with its location. No one's ever complained about anyone stalking anyone in this park. Talking about parks, the swings & slide & such I refer to before near #2 is WAY towards the front of the park being questioned. The pavilion & washrooms & horse arena & announcer's stand sit WAY behind it. So where praytell do I get in touch with the guy that reviewed this? If I go and pace this out to get a decent measurement would THAT help if they get put back?

That's really got nothing to do with this post. The point is it's no where near school grounds to begin with. Finding 1 or 1000 before putting any out is NOT going to change the fact that this isn't located there -unless the school buys more public park land, which isn't likely. The lack of any recorded finds on your account is relevant to your post as it gives those who might respond to your post a little background information on your levels of experience to date when considering their responses. To date, if you account statistics are to be believed, your geocaching find experience is zero. The reviewer who posted previously had the view that elements of the cache in question are sufficiently close to school grounds to cause concern. OK I'll give you that as far as the first part. But again, it was never questioned before. That's why I asked if this could be a "opinion based on who reviews it" kind of thing. If I knew if anyone was close to me I'd love to take them out & show them exactly where it is. No need. Keystone already saw the satellite image. By the way, you say it's nowhere near the school but also say: That's too close in the opinion of some, regardless of whether the former cache slipped by. How close? That's an objective measurement. How close is too close? A subjective judgment call. Even if the school admin is fine with it, people worry about the safety of schools ( & bridges, military bases, etc.). Some muggle will see a cacher acting strangely and call the police. We haven't heard from you in many weeks. Hope the gpsr issue got worked out. You ain't heard from me in weeks because, to put it bluntly, a few people's attitude about me and the way I write. If there was no problem with this the first time, nothing has changed, so nothing should be any less allowable. I'm just going to get rid of these.

There's never been a three-part multicache including all three of your locations. The location near the maintenance garage is the most problematic. Reviewer can tell this without visiting the cache location. The Google aerial photos are clear enough that I can see school children playing on the school playground. They show up as little "dots." The nearest tot dot is 300 feet from one of your cache waypoints, across an open, flat playground/field. Exactly. and that "open flat area" is public park. How close are these allowed to be to a school or church? 200 Ft.? 300? This is the first time anyone's mentioned the garage as the point that's the most problem. I'm not sure how to say this without giving away its location but that piece that's "by" the garage is actually, again, on park area not far from the slide and swings, etc. But the garage & parking lot -which is actually mostly used for citizen's vehicles that are at the park(I've seen others placed almost next to playground stuff so I hope that's not the issue.) The farthest one back (the final) is where the original was that was abandoned even further behind the pavilion area. I'm not sure how accurate on-line maps are, but can they show exact property lines or is there margin of error there?

That's really got nothing to do with this post. The point is it's no where near school grounds to begin with. Finding 1 or 1000 before putting any out is NOT going to change the fact that this isn't located there -unless the school buys more public park land, which isn't likely. The lack of any recorded finds on your account is relevant to your post as it gives those who might respond to your post a little background information on your levels of experience to date when considering their responses. To date, if you account statistics are to be believed, your geocaching find experience is zero. The reviewer who posted previously had the view that elements of the cache in question are sufficiently close to school grounds to cause concern. OK I'll give you that as far as the first part. But again, it was never questioned before. That's why I asked if this could be a "opinion based on who reviews it" kind of thing. If I knew if anyone was close to me I'd love to take them out & show them exactly where it is.

1. The reviewer's note on your unpublished cache submission is dated yesterday. I'm not sure how that translates to talking to "our Administrator" several times and that the "Administrator" doesn't care at all. Reviewers are not on duty 24/7; we are volunteers. Are you perhaps speaking of the school Administrator for Sacred Heart School? 2. I would have left a similar reviewer note on your page; if the cache elements are not "on" school property, they are "near" it and clearly visible from the school grounds. I was referring to the part of it that is located on the village garage area. He said he didn't care, and that covers that possible problem. I guess I don't get why no one complained or said no before. (In fact, if my memory is correct "Bec" is the one who was listed as O.K.-ing (is that a word?) my first 2. The first part was not changed. The 2nd is towards the garage and the 3rd is in an area that was abandoned by its original owner and apparently no one cared about it being put there originally either.

The "number found" thing really got nothing to do with this post. The point is it's no where near school grounds to begin with. Finding 1 or 1000 before putting any out is NOT going to change the fact that this isn't located there -unless the school buys more public park land, which isn't likely.

But it was OK the first time for months no one said anything and a handful found it. I just added 2 more. To be on school grounds it'id have to be about 40 or 50 yards east of where they are. Is this one of those "opinion" things depending on who reads it?

My "50% need not apply" is not, nor has it ever been on any school grounds as someone has stated. 2 parts are in a public park owned by the Village of Sherwood. (Everything from the Fire Station #1 to the edge of the farm field about 100 yards+ back and in the other direction, the farm field and the school tennis/basketball court is public park. The other is on Sherwood's maintenance garage land.) The school is next to it, but where these are and have been is Village park. I've talked to our Administrator several times about its placement and he doesn't care at all. Who does one bring this to the attention to?

Not exactly. The 50% need not apply as changed around and submitted for re-listing. The Nanoregular has been active for awhile after being "taken over" I'm hoping my new "50%" gets put (back) up. -Unless I'm misreading that reply. The "50%" one was changed to a multi because I found a few more cute spots.

How does one change the single to multi stage on the listing? Is the only way to archive the single and re-do the whole thing as a multi? (Check my "50% need not apply" for what I wanna' do) I found some cute other hiding areas but the thing apparently feels more than 1 in this area is too many, so I tried making this into 1 multi instead of hiding 2 or 3 more singles. As noted in my description, I wasn't sure how to change that on the edit page. Is there a way to change its listing or do you have to re-do the whole thing and have it republished? Apparently 1 person already found the multi but said the way I went about it on its listing here could confuse people.

Who's he? :/

How odd So you're logged onto geocaching.com and you don't see a large green button with white letters that says "Log your visit" on the right hand side of the Listing page?

I still can't figure out how. Some people say they haven't seen any of mine but someone today pulled it up on his toy. The one in question doesn't seem to have a "log" icon anywhere. After all this time I wanna' log my favorite -even if it has been moved GC12XJZ. After all this time and as long as it's been since it was found before me, I wanna' update its latest find. Did you sign the logbook in the second container? The 2nd container was missing due to park reconstruction. That's why I made that new one. I just wanna' log my (finally!) find in the old one. I did however put "placed 07025-14" on the new 2nd stage.

I still can't figure out how. Some people say they haven't seen any of mine but someone today pulled it up on his toy. The one in question doesn't seem to have a "log" icon anywhere. After all this time I wanna' log my favorite -even if it has been moved GC12XJZ. After all this time and as long as it's been since it was found before me, I wanna' update its latest find.

Or is that a no-no?

+2 No, HE said that. I just asked what I said. (I could turn that into something!)

Meaning what? NOWWWWWWWWWW what'id I say?