tishman

I would guess that Hell Fish Bonanza is gone except for the final. It had been broken awhile back so the WCFP couldn't follow the trail of way points to the final. The I39 underbelly could , according to regulations, still be active as it is not 'on' WCFP managed property. It is accessed through the WCFP near by it though and is a worthwhile geocache hunt. Greenbacks -Georgeous Gorge, has probably been conficated and archieved but was near the final to Hell Fish Bonanza. Points well taken Marty. I asked if they would hire me to hunt down any strays but they said they couldn't pay volunteers. My big chance at being a paid geocache hunter crushed.

(1) Not likely that Groundspeak would approve and list such geocache'. (2) Absolutely! Try getting the editor of the local daily to give you a hearing. Or maybe the RockRiver Times. At least write a letter to the editor. (3) Some support would be nice; or someone who wanted a good fight or catchy head line. (But you didn't hear that from me) Never kick a bees nest unless you like a buzzing sound around your ears.

A funny thing happened while out hunting for a cache location. Letterboxing and GPS Games are under the radar of WCFP, for now at least. Wonder if they monitor this forum? Why single out one site/activity while simular activities go on elsewhere in the FP from differnt sites? Hmmmm

It really does not matter who, for now at least. I would like to find out the disposition of the geocache containers and log books that were confiscated. Taking the high road I have donated $10.00 to the county forest preserves and will be placing two new geocache' soon. My advice: Where a big smile and let the folks at the office know what a great sport geocaching is and how it can put a good light on our county when we invite geocachers to enjoy our forest preserves. Pony up the $10.00 and put out a couple of nice multis. Lets not scare them into even more regulations before we can get a hearing. Hmmm last time I ponied up $10.00 to a county authority we got an airline. One can never tell what we could get from this.

Wish it was a joke, or that I had been notified some way before they raided the cache'. There was NO PUBLIC notice of this policy going into effect. Some of the hides had 30 visits in a year. Pretty heavy traffic, don't you think? Winnebago County Forest Preserve Staff: CONFISCATED Your tax dollars at work!

Geez,, I suppose I'll have to archieve my Winnebago County Forest Preserve geocache'. Is this something the Groundspeak administrators will over see? Will we be notified by some bot that our geocache' have been taken down from the geocaching site pending official notification of permitted activity? We have yet begun to fight! (However I do not want to have my containers grabbed by paid muggles.) That would be if they could find them. What is the trend nationally? Are other municipalities taking this course of action? I see a similarity between the Illinois state park regulations and Winnebago county's regulations. The difference being that there is no required fee and no limit; IF you can get the site managers approval. One more box to check.

Maybe a new catagory of cache could be set up. You know how spam has taken up space on your computer; it could be for those prolific cache hiders that flood an area with their cache.( Like no one else could find a downed log.) Couldn't they be called "SPACHE" instead. Then we could have a filter for cache over a set number and they could be called spache, the find value could be .01 of a regular cache. This would still allow for those folks who 'Have to' hide and those who 'Have to' seek those, "Who's your daddy cache'". Have any spache in your area?