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Guest Moun10Bike

I can understand not wanting a virtual cache that is just a business location (the previous controversy), but I don't see a problem if a company places actual caches (as these are) as part of a promotion. That's what the Project APE caches were, essentially. Granted, these NUTS N STUFF caches are one-time-only caches, but I don't see a problem if the caches are properly archived once they have been found. Would it be less offensive if the cache names were unique?

 

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Jon (Moun10Bike)

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Guest mfratto

personally, i have no problem with this in principle, though listing so many of them is kind of annoying. maybe a separate area could be generated for commercial caches, so they don't crowd out "regular" ones, or maybe they should have to pay some kind of nominal advertising fee? I mean, to play devils advocate, this is a way for inner-city folks who don't get out into the mountains to still have some fun geocaching, and it could be fun for tourists. I don't see the harm done, but they should be limited on how many they can list.

 

Mauri

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Guest mfratto

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Originally posted by echosgold:

Oh boy, here we go again!


 

and before we start bashing using the geocaching site for advertising, this sig even does it -- much less obtrusive, to be sure, than 25 caches, but still advertising. I am getting a puppy, and I clicked on it LOL

 

PS: aw, shoot, i didn't catch the sig in the quote, but if you page up you see it.

 

 

[This message has been edited by mfratto (edited 01 August 2001).]

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Guest bob_renner

These caches meet the "guidelines" suggested in the previous thread (not a virtual cache at a store and contain a prize). However, the flood effect is ANNOYING. You go the seek page and you get NOTHING BUT these 25 caches. Since they are one-time-only caches, it would have been better to only put out 1 or 2 and when one is found, replace it with a new one in a new location. We also need to have a new classification of COMMERCIAL and an on/off filter for searches.

 

Bob

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Guest Moun10Bike

r person can submit in a day/week/month (failure to comply results in immediate archival of offending caches, repeated failure to comply results in suspension of login rights)

Actual cache and prizes required (no virtual caches) Unique and informative cache nickname

 

Any thoughts/additions/subtractions/etc.?

 

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N 47° 36.649', W 122° 3.616'

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Guest mfratto

quote:
Originally posted by Moun10Bike:

 

  • A new cache type icon for commercial caches
  • The ability to filter commercial caches out of searches
  • a limit on the number of commericial caches that a given individual or person can submit in a day/week/month (failure to comply results in immediate archival of offending caches, repeated failure to comply results in suspension of login rights)
  • Actual cache and prizes required (no virtual caches)
  • Unique and informative cache nickname

 

Any thoughts/additions/subtractions/etc.?


 

All good except for no virtual caches. I LIKE virtual caches. So many people here are always crowing about how it about the "journey" not the "reward" (though I like a reward as well as anyone) -- but the location in some cases can be the reward, and a VC is a great way to locate spots where its nice to visit, but you wouldn't want to leave a cache, maybe would be too easily disturbed (like ours was at the beach, so we turned it virtual) or would be too disruptive, perhaps environmentally, to the site, or you just don't have the cash for a cache. icon_smile.gif

 

But otherwise, I think your ideas are great, especially the different icon -- maybe a barrel with a dollar sign on it? icon_smile.gif

 

I don't know about filters, you can do that by eye with the new icon. Like you said, at most you are talking about a few clicks through a few pages.

 

mauri

 

PS: I am not clear on if you meant no virtual caches only in commercial cases -- in which case I still wouldn't agree. I still think it would be a nice way for a local to show a tourist around their area, or things like that. Personally, I think it is good to keep kinds of caches as loose and creative as possible, and let the cacher community, and the cacher individual, decide which kinds they like.

 

[This message has been edited by mfratto (edited 01 August 2001).]

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Guest mfratto

quote:
Originally posted by Moun10Bike:

 

  • A new cache type icon for commercial caches
  • The ability to filter commercial caches out of searches
  • a limit on the number of commericial caches that a given individual or person can submit in a day/week/month (failure to comply results in immediate archival of offending caches, repeated failure to comply results in suspension of login rights)
  • Actual cache and prizes required (no virtual caches)
  • Unique and informative cache nickname

 

Any thoughts/additions/subtractions/etc.?


 

All good except for no virtual caches. I LIKE virtual caches. So many people here are always crowing about how it about the "journey" not the "reward" (though I like a reward as well as anyone) -- but the location in some cases can be the reward, and a VC is a great way to locate spots where its nice to visit, but you wouldn't want to leave a cache, maybe would be too easily disturbed (like ours was at the beach, so we turned it virtual) or would be too disruptive, perhaps environmentally, to the site, or you just don't have the cash for a cache. icon_smile.gif

 

But otherwise, I think your ideas are great, especially the different icon -- maybe a barrel with a dollar sign on it? icon_smile.gif

 

I don't know about filters, you can do that by eye with the new icon. Like you said, at most you are talking about a few clicks through a few pages.

 

mauri

 

PS: I am not clear on if you meant no virtual caches only in commercial cases -- in which case I still wouldn't agree. I still think it would be a nice way for a local to show a tourist around their area, or things like that. Personally, I think it is good to keep kinds of caches as loose and creative as possible, and let the cacher community, and the cacher individual, decide which kinds they like.

 

[This message has been edited by mfratto (edited 01 August 2001).]

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Guest Markwell

OK - I'll pick them apart...

  • New cache icon - yes
  • The ability to filter commercial caches out of searches - yes
  • a limit on the number of commericial caches that a given individual or person can submit in a day/week/month (failure to comply results in immediate archival of offending caches, repeated failure to comply results in suspension of login rights) - OK, but since we're talking about filtering capabilities, I'm not as worried about this. I could see how Jeremy wouldn't want to flood the database with these type of caches though
  • Actual cache and prizes required (no virtual caches) - heartily agree
  • Unique and informative cache nickname - that one's going to be EXTREMELY hard to enforce - it's too subjective.

 

If we were able to designate them as a commercial cache (check box) container, that field should be able to act as a trigger in our query with three options:

"I want to see only non-commercial caches"

"I want to see only commercial caches" or

"Show me all the caches"

 

Personally, I wouldn't want to see them at all.

 

What we're talking about here is also what's in good taste. I know that the term is very subjective, but I think we can all agree that the result of these caches eliminating other Louisville caches is not a desired result.

 

Maybe we need another posting area called "GeoCASHing." (Has that been said before?)

 

[This message has been edited by Markwell (edited 01 August 2001).]

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Guest Moun10Bike

quote:
Originally posted by Markwell:

What we're talking about here is also what's in good taste. I know that the term is very subjective, but I think we can all agree that the result of these caches eliminating other Louisville caches is not a desired result.


 

That's one of the problems, though -- it is so subjective that there is frequently very little agreement on this. For example, mfratto wants to keep commercial virtual caches, whereas you don't. I think that the Kerns Coffee Cache would have been better received if it had been an actual cache rather than a business location, which is why I added the "no virtual caches" guideline to the commercial cache list, but maybe not. In any case, how to we determine what's best for the geocaching community?

 

As for the NUTS N STUFF caches "eliminating" other Louisville caches, I don't see it that way -- instead, I see 25 new caches in an area that was lagging behind the rest of the country in terms of caches per capita. They will only sit in the Lousiville searches as long as they are unfound, as they are one-time-only caches. As caching (hopefully) grows in that area, this caches will quickly disappear. I think the problem, and maybe it is what you are getting at, is that if commercial caches are allowed to go through unchecked, we could easily have situations where the commercial entries consistently flood out the "normal" caches posted in an area.

 

I hope that I'm not coming across as argumentative or contrarian -- it's just that as one of the people that Jeremy has helping out with cache acceptance, I am legitimately concerned with what people want and do not want to see on the web site.

 

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Guest PharoaH

Markwell, you did a good summary, but I think we've all overlooked something here:

 

A One-time cache???

 

I really hope that isn't the case. I remember reading all the ranting about how the A.P.E. caches had only enough goodies for the first finder. If it IS the case, then I would want a special icon for that, "Disposable Cache".

 

Just imagine some poor sap rushing out to be the first to find that cache. Except beat them too it, but didn't log it yet. Oh boy, I found an empty container!

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Guest Markwell

I think we're all in agreement, just saying things differently. I realize that the caches in Louisville will eventually be pushed out by new caches. Hopefully, once these "one time" caches are found they'll be archived as well - and that will be the end of it.

 

As for my not wanting to keep the commercial caches - that's not really true. I don't mind them as long as I have a way to NOT see them.

 

Before I quit ranting, a little more on the one-time cache. As long as the cache meets all other guidelines, and (here's the important part) THE CACHE IS ARCHIVED ONCE IT IS FOUND, I don't see the harm in a "disposable" cache. I guess I might be kinda mad if I was the second cacher in the above scenario - but then again, I've searched for quite a few caches that we plundered or lost, but the owner just never got around to archiving the cache.

 

BTW - it may not have been limited trinkets in the APE caches so much as greedy hunters. The same cache rules apply, that there should have been trinkets left by the hunters. Also, who's to say that they didn't take more than one item. I've even heard that the containers get pilferred. mad.gif

 

Bottom line, I think we all agree that there's something that makes us wince about these Nutty caches. This instance might be within the guidelines that we put out before with commercial caches - but I think the consequences of what happens to the area caches might have been thought out a little better.

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Guest Moun10Bike

quote:
Originally posted by Markwell:

As long as the cache meets all other guidelines, and (here's the important part) THE CACHE IS ARCHIVED ONCE IT IS FOUND, I don't see the harm in a "disposable" cache.


 

Amen to proper archiving! I'll be watching to see if the owner of the NUTS N STUFF caches archive them after found (I think that it is appropriate for them to wait until the finder brings the cache in for the prize or until they have confirmed the cache has been taken before archiving it).

 

PharoaH brings up a good point that has been bothering me -- how does a cache hunter know that a one-time cache is still there, given that someone could grab it and wait a while before posted an online log (if he or she posts the log online at all)? That's another issue that remains to be addressed.

 

All of this discussion would seem to indicate that geocaching is expanding rapidly and experiencing growing pains -- it is certainly better than the opposite possibility! icon_smile.gif

 

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Jon (Moun10Bike)

27H/71F/3C/2S/2X

N 47° 36.649', W 122° 3.616'

www.switchbacks.com/geocaching.html

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Guest Moun10Bike

quote:
Originally posted by Markwell:

As long as the cache meets all other guidelines, and (here's the important part) THE CACHE IS ARCHIVED ONCE IT IS FOUND, I don't see the harm in a "disposable" cache.


 

Amen to proper archiving! I'll be watching to see if the owner of the NUTS N STUFF caches archive them after found (I think that it is appropriate for them to wait until the finder brings the cache in for the prize or until they have confirmed the cache has been taken before archiving it).

 

PharoaH brings up a good point that has been bothering me -- how does a cache hunter know that a one-time cache is still there, given that someone could grab it and wait a while before posted an online log (if he or she posts the log online at all)? That's another issue that remains to be addressed.

 

All of this discussion would seem to indicate that geocaching is expanding rapidly and experiencing growing pains -- it is certainly better than the opposite possibility! icon_smile.gif

 

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Jon (Moun10Bike)

27H/71F/3C/2S/2X

N 47° 36.649', W 122° 3.616'

www.switchbacks.com/geocaching.html

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Guest jeremy

On the record, I hate one-time caches as well as moving caches. But I don't ban them because others like them.

 

As for the Planet of the Apes caches, there was one cache that was taken (in LA - go figure). The others were just picked up by the rangers who helped hide them.

 

Jeremy

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Guest cache_ninja

maybe there could be some icon for a one time cache, and a built in feature that as soon as its logged found, it gets archived. that would be nice and not too hard i think?

 

btw, for the record the 2 APE caches i visited had _lots_ of stuff for subsequent visitors besides the big prize etc.

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Guest PharoaH

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Originally posted by cache_ninja:

btw, for the record the 2 APE caches i visited had _lots_ of stuff for subsequent visitors besides the big prize etc.


Yes, the one I visited here in Atlanta was well stocked too. I was referring to the first one or two caches that were not as well stocked, or at least thats what the threads said...

 

The A.P.E. Caches were well accepted because:

1. People actually wanted the stuff

2. They were done one per week, or so

3. They had lots of APE goodies (eventually)

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Guest Gossamyrrh

I don't mind commercial caches...but I think 25 of them is a bit excessive. It's taking advantage of geocaching.com by using the site for free advertising. This will only open the door for others to follow suit.

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Guest navdog

WHAT A BUNCH OF GARBAGE !!!!!!!

 

ALLOWING A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT TO POST SOMETHING LIKE THAT WILL ONLY OPEN THE FLOODGATES. AND THIS WEBSITE WILL BE ONE BIG YELLOW PAGES. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE CAN FEEL THAT THIS IS ACCEPTABLE.

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Guest navdog

Why would I want to drive all the way across town to:

 

-Spend $5.00 in gas

-put wear and tear on my vehicle

-spend two hours of my life

-pollute the enviroment driving there

 

For a 50 cent bag of peanuts???????

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Guest cache_ninja

he cache? ostensibly they put them in interesting spots..hopefully. i really dunno how i feel about this either way. i mean , they did goto the trouble to hide them all over the city etc. so there is still potentially excitement for searching for something hidden. for _most_ people its never been about the stuff in the cache-its the hunt, and for some this stuff might be better quality than the crap in alot of caches..so i guess its just the fact that its commercial thats bothering people? it seems silly to complain about what they are hiding...

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Guest xanthari

heheheh...If I lived in Louisville I'd run out and get 25 finds real quick then use ALL the coupons and drop the trailmix in the foodbox at church.

 

I kindof like the "disposable" innercity cache idea (just think of the huge new york and LA area populations that dont want to leave the city but just might if they actually got into geocaching by starting out this way) maybe make a new cache icon with the recycle symble that has the universal red circle and red line through it for "NON-Recycleable".

 

Go! Find! Log!

 

X.

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Guest jxs2151

I agree with NavDog, once you open the door to Commercial Marketing they will ruin it! Look at UseNet, completely flooded by marketers and made near useless. E-mail, SPAM. Sports, ruined by money. Politics, ruined by money.

 

These people have *no* ethics or conscience. They feel that the ends (making money) justifies *any* means, and I do mean any. I firmly believe that we do *not* want to allow commercialism to creep into our sport.

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Guest mfratto

quote:
Originally posted by navdog:

 

Why would I want to drive all the way across town to:

 

-Spend $5.00 in gas

-put wear and tear on my vehicle

-spend two hours of my life

-pollute the enviroment driving there

 

For a 50 cent bag of peanuts???????


 

I'm sorry, not trying to be argumentative, but I had to laugh out loud at this -- at least the drive across town bags some peanuts, LOL. I have trekked up inclines, through water, weeds, mosquitos, and god knows what else to find the usual chitzy little trinkets people leave in caches, usually nothing of value to me. A bag of nuts doesn't sound like a bad prize, comparably to what you get in the regular cache.

 

Mauri

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and just for the record, this "sport" reeks of commericalism -- think of the money that goes into doing it. this is not a money-free sport -- at the very least, you need two (gps and computer) and possible three (car/truck) and maybe more very expensive pieces of equiptment to "play." Then there is buying all the fun stuff, shirts, hats, etc. And there is nothing wrong with it, but there isn't much these days that isn't commercial -- unless you mean a walk through with woods -- with no gps, no cache, and no other "goodies."

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Guest jxs2151

quote:
Originally posted by mfratto:

and just for the record, this "sport" reeks of commericalism -- think of the money that goes into doing it. this is not a money-free sport -- at the very least, you need two (gps and computer) and possible three (car/truck) and maybe more very expensive pieces of equiptment to "play." Then there is buying all the fun stuff, shirts, hats, etc. And there is nothing wrong with it, but there isn't much these days that isn't commercial -- unless you mean a walk through with woods -- with no gps, no cache, and no other "goodies."


 

Commercialism is not a result of having to buy stuff. I agree that is a fact of life. You choose to buy the stuff. Marketing is a different beast altogether though. When someone attempts to use a community that was put together in good faith for their own profit, I have a problem with that.

 

Choosing to buy gear is much different than someone using Geocaching as a marketing tool. I will grant POTA an exemption because their marketing efforts were in good taste (No "Eat at Joe's" coupons) and we got a fair trade - positive exposure.

 

[This message has been edited by jxs2151 (edited 02 August 2001).]

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Guest c.mathis

quote:
Originally posted by mfratto:

and just for the record, this "sport" reeks of commericalism -- think of the money that goes into doing it. this is not a money-free sport -- at the very least, you need two (gps and computer) and possible three (car/truck) and maybe more very expensive pieces of equiptment to "play." Then there is buying all the fun stuff, shirts, hats, etc. And there is nothing wrong with it, but there isn't much these days that isn't commercial -- unless you mean a walk through with woods -- with no gps, no cache, and no other "goodies."


 

For some of us, when we talk about "commercialism" in this forum we don't mean the money we spend to PLAY the sport. we are talking about the caches that are commercial. Big difference.

 

By your definition, everything about our lives is commercial. That's not what we mean. icon_wink.gif

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quote:
Originally posted by mfratto:

and just for the record, this "sport" reeks of commericalism -- think of the money that goes into doing it. this is not a money-free sport -- at the very least, you need two (gps and computer) and possible three (car/truck) and maybe more very expensive pieces of equiptment to "play." Then there is buying all the fun stuff, shirts, hats, etc. And there is nothing wrong with it, but there isn't much these days that isn't commercial -- unless you mean a walk through with woods -- with no gps, no cache, and no other "goodies."


 

For some of us, when we talk about "commercialism" in this forum we don't mean the money we spend to PLAY the sport. we are talking about the caches that are commercial. Big difference.

 

By your definition, everything about our lives is commercial. That's not what we mean. icon_wink.gif

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Guest c.mathis

t here goes. icon_wink.gif

 

When "we" put a coupon in one of our caches for a local restaurant that's different. It's done in and among the geocaching community.

 

When a business SPAMs our community with discount coupons to lure you to their store, that's no different than junk mail in your mailbox. I DON'T WANT IT!

 

I understand that there are those here who don't care what a cache contains or who placed it as long as it has coordinates, but you may regret this later.

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t here goes. icon_wink.gif

 

When "we" put a coupon in one of our caches for a local restaurant that's different. It's done in and among the geocaching community.

 

When a business SPAMs our community with discount coupons to lure you to their store, that's no different than junk mail in your mailbox. I DON'T WANT IT!

 

I understand that there are those here who don't care what a cache contains or who placed it as long as it has coordinates, but you may regret this later.

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Guest bunkerdave

This, along with various other garbage, including but not limited to:

 

1. Inequity in content exchanges

2. Cache plunderers

3. Commercial Caches

4. Weak Caches

5. Environmental Impacts

6. Littering

 

Are among the reasons I am interested in Geodashing. I found my first one yesterday, and it was as challenging and satisfying as any of the "real" caches I have been to. I also had the pleasure of being (in my mind) the first one to ever go to the spot, and quite possibly, the last. I would have left a cache, but I had to cross private property to get there, and it was a 2.5 mile hike up 2000' elevation to get there. I found an old survey stake lying on the ground on my way there, so I carried it with me and stuck it in the ground when I got to the spot.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love Geocaching, and will always participate and contribute to the game. There are, however, certain "flaws" which need to be worked out. I think a hybrid between Dashing and Caching might be a step in the right direction.

 

Thoughts?

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Guest CapnGadget

which leads me to ask...why have Garmin, Magellan, Lowrance etc. not placed caches yet...geocaching must be great for sales.

Every news report and hi-tech documentary has someone waving around a little yellow eTrex or Mag 315...with the price of Garmin accessories being what they are I wouldn't mind if they placed a few out there for free! lol

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Guest mfratto

Listen, it's not like Microsoft is out here advertising. This is a little nut shop, and maybe the person who owns is a geocacher too. I have seen at least one person on this very list "advertising" their business with a link to their commerical webpage in their sig -- should we ban them from doing that too? What's the dif? Are we saying if the commercialism is discreet and not in our face, then we don't care, or if it is a product we like, then fine, but not otherwise? If the little guy/gal, the dog-gear guy/gal, the nut shop guy/gal, can get a little business from people perusing this site, and others get some fun of finding a cache and some free peanuts in the deal, why not? If I had a small business, I would think, hey, cool, I'll put out some caches in my area with free items -- why not? Now, if Proctor and Gamble or Kelloggs starts advertising here, then you have a problem. Though I bet people wouldn't care if Garmin started posting caches with free GPS's -- even one-shot ones, and lots of them. I wonder how many protests to that we would have? Hmmmm...

 

Mauri

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quote:
Originally posted by mfratto:

Listen, it's not like Microsoft is out here advertising. This is a little nut shop, and maybe the person who owns is a geocacher too. I have seen at least one person on this very list "advertising" their business with a link to their commerical webpage in their sig -- should we ban them from doing that too? What's the dif? Are we saying if the commercialism is discreet and not in our face, then we don't care, or if it is a product we like, then fine, but not otherwise? If the little guy/gal, the dog-gear guy/gal, the nut shop guy/gal, can get a little business from people perusing this site, and others get some fun of finding a cache and some free peanuts in the deal, why not? If I had a small business, I would think, hey, cool, I'll put out some caches in my area with free items -- why not? Now, if Proctor and Gamble or Kelloggs starts advertising here, then you have a problem. Though I bet people wouldn't care if Garmin started posting caches with free GPS's -- even one-shot ones, and lots of them. I wonder how many protests to that we would have? Hmmmm...

 

Mauri


 

I shall cease protesting. I *will* however be here to give you a big "I-told-ya-so" when you wish that you hadn't opened the door, even a teeny bit.

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In fact, if there are free Garmins or similar put out there (which actually, a store in our area did), I expect they will be easy for me to find, since you guys will all have to stay home sitting on your non-commerical attitudes, LOL.

 

yay, free garmins for me!

 

Mauri icon_wink.gif

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In fact, if there are free Garmins or similar put out there (which actually, a store in our area did), I expect they will be easy for me to find, since you guys will all have to stay home sitting on your non-commerical attitudes, LOL.

 

yay, free garmins for me!

 

Mauri icon_wink.gif

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Guest mfratto

quote:
Originally posted by jxs2151:

I shall cease protesting. I *will* however be here to give you a big "I-told-ya-so" when you wish that you hadn't opened the door, even a teeny bit.


 

It may surprise you to imagine I won't be wringing my hands over it one way or the other -- this is a hobby, a sport at best, not my religion. There are more important things in life to put all that protesting energy into.

 

Mauri

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Guest jeremy

ins for the next player.

 

Now for cool stuff in caches, what if I was able to get some music and game CDs and have them hidden in caches, or create new games that have corporate sponsors? What if I could create a puzzle cache where the prize was a Game Boy Advance? Just an example, by the way. I don't have a Game Boy Advance promotion in the works.

 

I believe that folks would enjoy it. So I may or may not have games like Planet of the Apes in the future...

 

Jeremy

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Guest jxs2151

quote:
Originally posted by mfratto:

It may surprise you to imagine I won't be wringing my hands over it one way or the other -- this is a hobby, a sport at best, not my religion. There are more important things in life to put all that protesting energy into.

 

Mauri

 


 

It may surprise you to find that just because you do not find it worth pouring energy into does not necessarily mean that others may not. Your dismissive attitude toward the beliefs of others marks you as one to ignore.

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Guest brokenwing

quote:
Originally posted by jeremy:

Personally one time caches seem too competitive for geocaching if there was anything worth anything in them. I also hate the idea of people scouring an area for a cache that was just taken by someone intentionally as part of the game. At least with a standard type cache the container remains for the next player.

 

Now for cool stuff in caches, what if I was able to get some music and game CDs and have them hidden in caches, or create new games that have corporate sponsors? What if I could create a puzzle cache where the prize was a Game Boy Advance? Just an example, by the way. I don't have a Game Boy Advance promotion in the works.


 

Jeremy, I'm a little confused by this post. First you said that you don't like one time caches, then go on to say that you are thinking about setting up that very thing. Am I just interpreting this wrong? After reading this I'm not sure where you stand.

 

I have to say, I too am concerned about getting to a onetime cache just after someone else, but on the otherhand, it would be cool to find some really neat stuff.

 

Maybe if there were some way to uniquely identify a cacher, the sponsor could have you take a token, or a piece of information to a particular location to redeem your prize? That way, there could be multiple winners.

 

brokenwing

 

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Guest navdog

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Originally posted by mfratto:

I'm sorry, not trying to be argumentative, but I had to laugh out loud at this -- at least the drive across town bags some peanuts, LOL. I have trekked up inclines, through water, weeds, mosquitos, and god knows what else to find the usual chitzy little trinkets people leave in caches, usually nothing of value to me. A bag of nuts doesn't sound like a bad prize, comparably to what you get in the regular cache.

 

Mauri


 

I look at geocaching as a way to explore new and interesting places, to enrich the lives of other geocachers by sharing the places and experiences of caches found, and enriching my own life in the process.

 

It is an investment without price when we can open our eyes to the wonders of the world and share that with others.

 

Do you go geocaching for the worthless trinkets at the end of the trail, or to enjoy the journey that takes you there?

 

Is running across town just to find a little coupon and then redeeming it going to enrich your life?

 

It is good to have an end to journey toward, but it is the journey that matters in the end!

 

navdog

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Guest hgmonaro

I posted a similar comment in the coffee shop thread...

 

Commercial Caches (expecially one-time only caches) are the 1st nail in the geocaching coffin!

 

Take these 'nuts' caches multiple by the number of spammers in the world and what have you got? One clogged up 'game'

 

With filtering ability, sure we can dodge those caches, but what about the 'authorities' views when all these businesses start littering the landscape with caches that they ARE NOT going to care what happens too. Big crack down on placing caches.

 

Sure, everyone likes to get 'good stuff' for free, but I think you're viewing is very short-sighted! Or maybe Geocaching is just a short-time fad?

 

I do however think there's a place for organised 'APE' like cache's, hopefully limited in number and exceptional in quality. How much fun would these be if there were 100,000's of them in existance! Rather boring I'd say. (I still need to go and find the APE cache 14.28km's from my house!)

 

I'll shut up now, let someone else have a rant icon_smile.gif

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I posted a similar comment in the coffee shop thread...

 

Commercial Caches (expecially one-time only caches) are the 1st nail in the geocaching coffin!

 

Take these 'nuts' caches multiple by the number of spammers in the world and what have you got? One clogged up 'game'

 

With filtering ability, sure we can dodge those caches, but what about the 'authorities' views when all these businesses start littering the landscape with caches that they ARE NOT going to care what happens too. Big crack down on placing caches.

 

Sure, everyone likes to get 'good stuff' for free, but I think you're viewing is very short-sighted! Or maybe Geocaching is just a short-time fad?

 

I do however think there's a place for organised 'APE' like cache's, hopefully limited in number and exceptional in quality. How much fun would these be if there were 100,000's of them in existance! Rather boring I'd say. (I still need to go and find the APE cache 14.28km's from my house!)

 

I'll shut up now, let someone else have a rant icon_smile.gif

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Guest hawkbit

I think some of you are missing the bigger point at the moment, which is Jeremy and the others that help him are responsible for caches that get posted. Everyone wants to rant and rave about what they don't want on "their" site. Hey if Jeremy wants to let these caches be posted and test the waters to see what floats...his website, his choice. I suppose we could all start our own websites and have everything spread across the web, but I like the one stop shopping (so to speak). I don't think anyone is wrong for stating their likes or dislikes about the caches, but the simple truth is, if no one likes them and no one goes to them, then they will fade away, and I have faith that Jeremy and the others will see the trend and treat those request in a way that best serves this community.

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I agree. It's seems so simple to you and I, I just don't understand why others don't get it. But, we all have different views of the world and they obviously see something different.

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