Guest Peter Scholtz Posted June 9, 2001 Share Posted June 9, 2001 Today I replaced my first cache which was stolen (we learn). I recently bought a digital camera and while taking pictures of the location, I thought about taking a 360 degree panoramic picture. I took three pictures for each of my two panoramic views, about 150 degrees and stitched them together with Photoshop. Quite a nice effect - have a look at http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?id=1754 (Of course they could have been colour matched, but I'm a programmer, so a bit beyond me.) Are there other caches with such wide angle pictures? ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za Quote Link to comment
Guest Creator of Geocaching Posted June 9, 2001 Share Posted June 9, 2001 Cool now you are Geographing!! Visit Yahoogroups.com/geographing for a bunch of information on panoramic photography and many examples. Dave... Quote Link to comment
Guest Lux Lucid Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Cool, your pano looks very nice. No need to color match; overlapping shots is still a great effect. Keep it up! I got re-excited about panoramas after good ol' makaio created a QTVR pano of one of my placements, Council Crest Cache. His third log entry here: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=604 (or directly there: http://www.gpscache.com/ccrest/ ) He inspired me to do a QTVR pano at one of his (now archived) caches, "Sauvie Island". Cache info and pano link here: http://geocaching.exocet.ca/found-008.shtml I did a tall panorama at the tall location of the "Three Cats and The Postman" cache by Wit Camp. I stacked two handheld vertical 28mm shots and stitched in Photoshop for about 95-degrees of vertical coverage (vertigo!): http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=2079 Jeff and Mike Teague put a cache at LaCamas Park, WA, that was quite worthy of a 360-degree pano shot (10 vertical shots with 28mm on tripod): http://tiltshift.com/LaCamasPark/LaCamas_PanoImage300.jpg (QTVR Pano version might work for you here: http://tiltshift.com/LaCamasPark/ ) Panos burn up the film though, so I'm looking forward to a nice digital camera one of these days. :-) -chad (Team Exocet) Quote Link to comment
Guest makaio Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Unfortunately, my Linux box crapped out so my site (gpscache.com) is not up. You can view the Council Crest pano flat image in the Geographing Yahoo group Files section... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Geographing/files/GEOGRAPH%20GALLERY/Historical%20Places/%40N45p4988dW122p7069d%5BCouncil%20Crest%2CPortland%2C%20OR%5D.jpg I use a digital cam corder on a tripod. Most important is getting the tripod nice and level. Then simply spin the camera (slowly) for a bit more than 360 degrees (better to have a little overlap then less than a full circle). My image capture software allows me to set it to grab an image every X seconds. I set it to 3-5 seconds and let it run. When done, it provides 20-30 images which make up the full 360 degree panorama. I then use one of the panorama shareware programs to stich them together seamlessly. Works pretty well for an amateur like myself. Quote Link to comment
Guest Haps Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 After seeing this thread I decided to try a pan shot for the cache I hid today: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=3146 I suppose it's ok but I'm still not pleased with the quality. But it's better then nothing. Quote Link to comment
Guest Peter Scholtz Posted June 16, 2001 Share Posted June 16, 2001 Not so easy with a digital camera that doesn't have a LCD view finder, hand held. ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za [This message has been edited by Peter Scholtz (edited 17 June 2001).] Quote Link to comment
Guest makaio Posted June 17, 2001 Share Posted June 17, 2001 I created a panorama image taken from the location of a cache I placed today... http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=3265 It consists of 10 images grabbed from a panning shot taken with a digital camcorder (handheld - didn't have my tripod with me today) and stitched together using a shareware program called Panorama Factory. Quote Link to comment
Guest bearboy Posted June 17, 2001 Share Posted June 17, 2001 Your Cache site is awesome! You have got all of mine beat.I wish I could come to South Africa to find it.Keep up the great work.Those are some great Photos Quote Link to comment
Guest Lux Lucid Posted June 26, 2001 Share Posted June 26, 2001 Peter (and others), I know of a great viewer that will take a flat panorama JPG file and display it as a 360-degree "virtual reality" panorama. I hope you don't mind, but I tested out with your Cape Town shot so you can see the effect. Look at the HTML file here: http://tiltshift.com/misc/CapeTownCityBowlPano/ In that directory, there's just three simple files. 1) The JPG you are familiar with, 2) the Java PTViewer.jar file that does the work, and 3) the HTML file that brings those two together for display. If you're semi-familiar with HTML, you can download those files and experiment on your computer. And if you have your own web space, you can reuse that stuff to post more panos online. I like this PTViewer method better than the QuickTime VRs because it does not require that QuickTime (or any other plugins) be installed on a person's computer to view the panorama effect. Plus PTViewer is free, and small, works with ANY Java-enable web browser, and relatively easy to use. (Unfortuanately the maker of PTViewer, Helmut Dersch, is being sued and gagged by IPix, a power-hungry, patent-mongering panorama software company that would prefer that all people who make any panoramas pay $25-100 _per_panorama_ before publishing them. http://vr.albury.net.au/~kathyw/EyePics/ipix.html But don't get me started.) -Lux "I love panoramas!" Lucid (Team Exocet) Quote Link to comment
Guest Lux Lucid Posted June 26, 2001 Share Posted June 26, 2001 Peter (and others), I know of a great viewer that will take a flat panorama JPG file and display it as a 360-degree "virtual reality" panorama. I hope you don't mind, but I tested out with your Cape Town shot so you can see the effect. Look at the HTML file here: http://tiltshift.com/misc/CapeTownCityBowlPano/ In that directory, there's just three simple files. 1) The JPG you are familiar with, 2) the Java PTViewer.jar file that does the work, and 3) the HTML file that brings those two together for display. If you're semi-familiar with HTML, you can download those files and experiment on your computer. And if you have your own web space, you can reuse that stuff to post more panos online. I like this PTViewer method better than the QuickTime VRs because it does not require that QuickTime (or any other plugins) be installed on a person's computer to view the panorama effect. Plus PTViewer is free, and small, works with ANY Java-enable web browser, and relatively easy to use. (Unfortuanately the maker of PTViewer, Helmut Dersch, is being sued and gagged by IPix, a power-hungry, patent-mongering panorama software company that would prefer that all people who make any panoramas pay $25-100 _per_panorama_ before publishing them. http://vr.albury.net.au/~kathyw/EyePics/ipix.html But don't get me started.) -Lux "I love panoramas!" Lucid (Team Exocet) Quote Link to comment
Guest Peter Scholtz Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 Lux, dadgum that's nice! I definately want to use that. Only the last and first frame don't line up nicely though. But I had a look at Panorama Factory mentioned earlier in this thread which does a good job of stitching them together and colour coding it! Only hassle was that it didn't like my two shots per angle. It wants them next to each other ... ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za Quote Link to comment
Guest joshgray Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 Cool stuff.. My fav program for panos is "Panoramic Factory" does eeeeverything for you. Stiches, blends, brightness, contrast, the works. I believe it even does the fixing of pairalax (sp?) distortion.. ------------------ --- JoshGray http://joshgray.myip.org Quote Link to comment
Guest guerroloco Posted June 29, 2001 Share Posted June 29, 2001 Heck Table cache in South Dakota has a panorama: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?id=3416 Quote Link to comment
Guest Markwell Posted June 29, 2001 Share Posted June 29, 2001 Lux, I must be missing something. I found your very cool Cape Town Bowl 360 shot and I wanted to do the same. I copied all three files to my local drive, and I can't get it to run. The browser indicates that it can't load the PTViewer Class (specific message is "Applet ptviewer class ptviewer could not be loaded"). I've got a cool 360° that I took from this morning and made a composite jpg, similar to the Cape Town City Bowl. Am I missing something? MarkLent60544@aol.com Quote Link to comment
Guest Lux Lucid Posted July 3, 2001 Share Posted July 3, 2001 t/dmaurer/%7Edersch/Index.htm The PanoTools software is not the easiest to use, but it's extremely powerful and free/open-source. The author, Prof. Helmut Dersch, is amazing in what he has provided for the pano community. Hope that helps. Post more panos! -Lux Lucid (Team Exocet) Quote Link to comment
Guest Lux Lucid Posted July 3, 2001 Share Posted July 3, 2001 t/dmaurer/%7Edersch/Index.htm The PanoTools software is not the easiest to use, but it's extremely powerful and free/open-source. The author, Prof. Helmut Dersch, is amazing in what he has provided for the pano community. Hope that helps. Post more panos! -Lux Lucid (Team Exocet) Quote Link to comment
Guest WJJagfan Posted July 3, 2001 Share Posted July 3, 2001 Check out this awesome software for 360 degree panoramas. http://www.ulead.com/cool360/runme.htm Quote Link to comment
Guest Peter Scholtz Posted July 5, 2001 Share Posted July 5, 2001 New panorama for my Karoo National Park cache: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?id=3706 Jeremy, how about supplying that panorama plugin mentioned above as standard on geocaching.com ... ? ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za Quote Link to comment
Guest Peter Scholtz Posted July 6, 2001 Share Posted July 6, 2001 I've installed the PTViewerJava for the above Karoo National Park Panorama: http://www.biometrics.co.za/images/KarooPanorama.htm I love it! ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za Quote Link to comment
Guest Peter Scholtz Posted July 6, 2001 Share Posted July 6, 2001 Rather than have a link to the panorama on the cache description page I want to embed it directly, so it shows as part of the page - now that will look nice! I've emailed Jeremy the PTViewerJava and asked him to add the ptviewer.jar file because the following doesn't seem to work: It seems I can't change this to this ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za Quote Link to comment
Guest jeremy Posted July 6, 2001 Share Posted July 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Peter Scholtz:It seems I can't change this... I believe this is a security feature in IE (and Netscape?) so you can't have evil code execute on an unsuspecting visitor. I got ready to copy the code over and noticed the license. I have contacted the owner of the panorama code and asked permission to use it. If all goes well I'll add the code to the site. Jeremy Quote Link to comment
Guest Peter Scholtz Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 New panorama for the Knysna cache: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=3984 Jeremy got permission for us to use the Java applet, now we can have the panoramas as part of the cache description! Will post code shortly ... ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za Quote Link to comment
Guest Peter Scholtz Posted July 9, 2001 Share Posted July 9, 2001 d click to zoom in or out. Free java panorama viewer is PTViewer, part of PanoTools, by the great Helmut Dersch. *** End Code *** ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za Quote Link to comment
Guest Artful Dodger Posted July 9, 2001 Share Posted July 9, 2001 Hey Peter! Excellent addition to the Geocache website. Congrats for plugging that feature. I think it will be used quite extensively now. Quote Link to comment
Guest Peter Scholtz Posted July 9, 2001 Share Posted July 9, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Artful Dodger:Hey Peter! Excellent addition to the Geocache website. Congrats for plugging that feature. I think it will be used quite extensively now. The thanks go to the guys above! ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za Quote Link to comment
Guest jeremy Posted July 9, 2001 Share Posted July 9, 2001 I'll try to get your instructions on the panorama images as soon as I can. Definitely an excellent feature. Thanks Peter! Jeremy Quote Link to comment
Guest bigkid Posted July 15, 2001 Share Posted July 15, 2001 Oh great, you post this AFTER I leave for my vacation, making think I have to go back to Oregon to shoot a 360. I got the java software to work, that was definitely high on the cool-geek factor. Another idea is to post a *.mov spun on a tripod, my Nikon 990 has a movie mode, although I hope Jeremey and crew have enough space to support a movie. Look for a new cache in Oregon where I was, called Defenders of the Cacheumbia (where do we get these names?) -bigkid Quote Link to comment
Guest Moun10Bike Posted July 17, 2001 Share Posted July 17, 2001 Peter, Thanks for the info on setting up a panoramic photo on the cache page! I just did it for one I hid yesterday up in Alberta, Canada -- http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=4408 ! ------------------ Jon (Moun10Bike) 26H/63F/3C/2S/2X N 47° 36.649', W 122° 3.616' www.switchbacks.com/geocaching.html Quote Link to comment
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