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  1. Guest

    DEAD BEATS

    d should take pride in having done so. I was not one of those, but I certainly appreciate the effort of those people, and I hope that at the various gatherings we will have I will be able to talk to them and give them the credit they are due.
  2. Guest

    My response to accusations

    I'm not a regular and am a newbie to the whole geopcachine scene but I have to add my two cents. I think it's great that someone has set up a site to act as a resource for geocaching. Had it been me I would fight my hardest to make it so that I was "THE RESOURCE". Not because of ego or becuase of money, but because I want a geocaching resource out there that is complete and up to date. How would it be if there were 10 different phone book companies in town. You had 10 phone books in your house and everybody in town submits there phone number to one of them. Imagine searchging for anumber. Isn't it nice that there is "1" database that provides you with the information your searching for. And as for this talk of going commercial and pay to play etc etc etc. You guys really have to be crazy to think that someonbe would do this. Or they would have to be crazy to do it. There is no money in it. Companies out there on the internet that offer far more valuable services are going broke on the net. The only way to maintain a pay to play caching system is to have well maintained caches that are hard to find and offer decent cash prizes.
  3. quote:Originally posted by c.mathis: Once you removed your cache from the property in question, your legal obligation ends. No judge would expect you to be able to remove all reference of the cache from EVERY page on the Internet. It's not possible. Besides, it's the cache that would be illegal, NOT the coordinates themselves. Of course that is considered confrontational to the Park service, and they will take a harder look at stifling the game in more and more locations. I guarantee that. Or worse, you wouldn't feel responsible if there was too much foot traffic to a spot that needed protected, or a place you knew that was dangerous afterwards but had no ability to remove the coordinates? I would consider that extremely careless when the alternative was to keep your coordinates central. I like the idea worse and worse as we talk about it. That, of course, doesn't mean I won't leave the checkbox, but I certainly won't check it for my caches. Jeremy
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    Current state of affairs

    As of today there are six geocaches in South Africa: Date Listed Cache Name Difficulty/Terrain 4/29/01 Geocache by child & Ana 2/3 4/28/01 "Table Mountain" by Peter Scholtz 2/2 4/21/01 "Cape Agulhas" by Peter Scholtz 1/1 4/16/01 "Jonkershoek" by Peter Scholtz last found 01-May-01 2/1 4/15/01 "Hangklip" by Peter Scholtz last found 01-May-01 1/1 1/18/01 "Sentinel View" by Prof Charles Merry last found 01-May-01 1.5/1.5 Tomorrow there will be an interview with Prof Charles Merry of UCT on Cape Talk radio at 13h00 (567 AM). You can listen to it online at www.capetalk.co.za ------------------ Regards Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za [This message has been edited by Peter Scholtz (edited 02 May 2001).]
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    Project APE 2

    ow if your wise remarks are a response to my "Can the humans prevail?" or not. If so, I guess I will have to explain to you what I meant by that remark. It had nothing to do with you or with Dave Ulmer. It was a reference to any geocachers who go after the Missions placed by 20th Century Fox and to those cachers evading the imaginary forces of the A.P.E. alliance. It is a fantasy game scout. It has nothing to do with the real feelings you and some others have toward Jeremy. May I suggest that you start a forum discussion of your own and name it in such a way that all who share your views could go there and you could talk to each other about those views. This thread is hopefully going to be about the Project Ape caches and nothing else. Thanks.....Ron
  6. Guest

    Geocaching.com Decal

    I have had for about two weeks now a sticker on my car that I made using "Paint" and some full-page sized label stock that says: THIS VEHICLE STOPS AT ALL GEO-CACHES. I have had some responses to this, and it has given me the opportunity to talk about our sport. I tend to agree with LazyBoy, in that I do not think the stickers would tend to show up on trees, buildings, dumpsters, etc. If the only way to get them is by ordering them and paying for them, people will tend to be pretty selective as to where they put them - and, we're not a bunch of delinquents. (SFM)
  7. Guest

    How about bears?

    I gun is a good way to defend yourself but a lot of caches are hiden in parks where hunting is prohibited.So don't get caught with a gun in there.Another alternative is pepper spray.There are some types especially made for bears.My friends father as some of this.It is usually used by hunting guides etc.I think this type of spray is also stronger than the usual mace.The best is to avoid them if you can.And if you can't back away slowly and walk away if he didn't see you.If he see's you talk to the bear while slowly backing away.I have came face to face with several bears and walked away.But i admit it is pretty scarry.And don't slip in that brown stuff leaking from your pants)
  8. Guest

    How about bears?

    I gun is a good way to defend yourself but a lot of caches are hiden in parks where hunting is prohibited.So don't get caught with a gun in there.Another alternative is pepper spray.There are some types especially made for bears.My friends father as some of this.It is usually used by hunting guides etc.I think this type of spray is also stronger than the usual mace.The best is to avoid them if you can.And if you can't back away slowly and walk away if he didn't see you.If he see's you talk to the bear while slowly backing away.I have came face to face with several bears and walked away.But i admit it is pretty scarry.And don't slip in that brown stuff leaking from your pants)
  9. Guest

    Pin Map Link Disappeared !!

    quote:Originally posted by Krepism:One really nice thing about these forums and the "list" is that we can talk about anything. And while I think every one has been very civil about this and have been playing very nice, things are getting out of hand a bit. Jeremy has put his heart and soul into this game and if it were not for him, this game would not be where it is today. Yes maybe some one would have come along and used Netscape to create a cheesy web page and you could email him/her with the coordinates and when they got around to it, it may have got posted within a month. Nobody, Nobody here has the dedication like Jeremy to keep this site up. Other sites have begun to pop up, but if you look at them they are designed to make money right off the bat, but Jeremy has taken another route. Promote the game; make a great central point to obtain coordinates and stats. And maybe, just maybe he might make a few dollars. Do I care if this information that I upload to "HIS" servers falls under his copyright, NO. Do any of you really care??? I hope not. Where did all of you hear about this game?? I will bet it was some how related to a promotion that Jeremy had to do with. Some one before chastised Jeremy for promoting this sport all over the news stations. When do any of you think the last time Jeremy got out to seek a cache? I would not think he has had a chance to get out, unless it was for a promo with a reporter. Some of you are going to say, "that?s my point, why doesn?t he allow people to help so he is not under so much pressure". He does not want it!! And I don?t blame him; I would not want it either. Do you people share the credit you receive at work with the janitors, just because they clean your cubes? Do you share the credit with the highway construction crews, hey with out that road you could not get to work? My point is, let Jeremy get all the credit he can, if that includes copyrighting the information that he collects on "HIS" website, then so be it. Jeremy has made every effort to make "his" web site legal as possible. With out central administration, the name Geocaching will start to get a bad name. For the last year we have all put our faith in Jeremy to take this sport to the next level. Any complaints??? I did not think so!!! Now stop your whining, move on and get out and go Geocaching!! No reason to frown and use the angry red face guy. Remember... cheerful, happy-time discussion? No one here is discounting the fact that Mr. Irish puts in a hell of a lot of time into maintaining and designing the website. And no one is contesting that he has put his own human and monetary capital into the site. I haven't heard anyone here say anything to that effect. As for sharing credit with the janitors that clean my cubical (if i had one that is), sure, I share credit with them. We pay them in exchange for goods and services rendered (credit for the job that they have done), in a capitalistic society it's only right. In fact it's a pretty dadgum good place to be a janitor. And finally... centralized administration kicks major butt.
  10. Guest

    Pin Map Link Disappeared !!

    quote:Originally posted by jeremy:No. That's fine. You can leave the post if you want. If not, one way to remove the post is to edit it and make the contents blank. I do apologize for questioning whether Ed had found the spoon was legitimate. It did come out as a rude accusation. It's all good. Jeremy Thanks, but it was wrong of me to post those emails without your prior permission. I have edited the post down to nothing. Mea culpa. Now, shall we talk about the issues and come up with some solution so that the maps can return? Issue 1) The Lost Caches. I think these are a valuable part of geocaching for all the reasons listed by people above. I've got numerous 'use common sense' messages on the page and it's an "opt out" list (i.e. I've posted that if anyone wants their cache removed from the list it's taken off immediately.) Perhaps an "opt-in" list would be acceptable? Issue 2) Copyright notices. I have no problem putting something that acknowleges your work at the bottom of my page. I'm reluctant however to place something on the map images themselves as those are the result of MY hard work. Again perhaps we can find some middle ground. In the meantime, my page remains offline. -Buxley
  11. Guest

    NC STATE PARKS

    Here's my thought. Why don't you contact the folks on high in NC and talk to them. Find out who the programs director is for NC parks and get him intrigued with Geocaching. I've talked to the programs director for Tennessee state parks, Charlie Tate, and he was interested in finding some way to allow Geocaching that would alleviate possible problems that could occur without the park services involvement. The biggest thing I see in keeping the parks open to Geocaching is that those people wanting to establish a cache on park lands, or any land, need to get permission first. It only takes a few minutes to make a phone call and I've found that these folks are extremely approachable.
  12. quote:Originally posted by pfred:I'd like to see an option to password-protect the logbook on a cache page. That would be a neat solution to a complaint some have had about spoilers in the logs. Cache hiders who object to loggers including spoilers could password protect the log, so the only readers would be people who have already found the log. Successful hunters could feel free to talk about all the details of the hunt without fear of spoiling it for others who haven't hunted that cache yet. Make this feature optional and those who like things just the way they are can continue to do logs the old way. To each his own.
  13. I just started using PanTerra and have found it to be quite good. Now if Geocaching.com could talk directly to it to exchange waypoints...
  14. John, The Arboretum folks have been extremely supportive of the caches. I'm even conspiring with them to place at least one more at a nearby park the same manager is responsible for. Regardless of their support, you're right, any comments to them will help the sport in general. I'm hoping that the Star reporter will talk to the Arboretum manager for some supportive comments. Well, we've finally got graduation behind use, and I think I may give this coming weekend over to finally getting back to cache hunting. Paul Lamble
  15. I recently placed a cache in a local Nature Park. I figured it'd get hunted fairly quickly. After two weeks with no logs, I decided to head back there and double check all the coords and clues (it's a multi-cache with 12 locations to hit). While hiking the trails I noticed multiple people with GPS units and papers in their hands I did stop to talk with one of them (Pete). I mentioned I was the cache hider and verifying my data. He commended me on creating an awesome challenge and that this was his 2nd day back to hunt the cache having run out of time the first time. I suggested making it easier but he advised me to leave it just as it is. More challenge makes the find that much more satisfying. Someone did find it yesterday which confirms my data to be correct
  16. I recently placed a cache in a local Nature Park. I figured it'd get hunted fairly quickly. After two weeks with no logs, I decided to head back there and double check all the coords and clues (it's a multi-cache with 12 locations to hit). While hiking the trails I noticed multiple people with GPS units and papers in their hands I did stop to talk with one of them (Pete). I mentioned I was the cache hider and verifying my data. He commended me on creating an awesome challenge and that this was his 2nd day back to hunt the cache having run out of time the first time. I suggested making it easier but he advised me to leave it just as it is. More challenge makes the find that much more satisfying. Someone did find it yesterday which confirms my data to be correct
  17. Hit the arboratum caches this weekend and really had a good time. The kids and I only picked up 3 ticks between us. Your guys don;t have ticks up here! I'm planning on send the arboratum folks a letter thanking them for allow the geocaches to be placed in their park. I wonder if a number of us shouldn't do the same. That would give them some great positive feedback and perhaps they'd talk caches up to other Parks folks. Met with Liz Austin from the Star on Saturday--she's looking you you Todd and Tracey next!
  18. Guest

    Magellan GPS 2000 XL

    Very easy to read and program, This Magellan GPS 2000 XL is in great shape. Includes owner's manual and Lawrence Letham's fine book "PS Made Easy". Thought I should give fellow Geocachers first crack at it before EBAY. I'm in San Diego if you want to pick it up in person or I'll ship COD. Make me an offer I can't refuse. Since this is a "garage sale"-- I also have two large aquariums, glass with stands,approx. 100 gallons, filters, pumps etc. I don't think I want to ship these, but I have a truck so, talk to me. Jerry 760-471-9339 jerry@elfinforest.net
  19. Guest

    Securing Caches

    Bunkerdave I think we could be figthing an uphill battle here.Personnaly,I'd remove all coordinates from the geocaching webpage to all caches!There !! NO MORE PLUNDER .That would be the most efficiant way to protect,secure or stop the plunder of cache !! Agree ?? Know,what good would that do to the game itself ? As we speak,at this very moment,a plunderer is whatching me discusting this issue with you.Now,if we come up with a very good solution to minimize this plundering activity,who's going to know at the same time?You guess it,your friendly plunderer ! Now,an another way to stop him from finding out what we are talking about,is not to talk about it at all.This way here,we cannot educate him on the activaties or solutions we come up.We have to be creative,in our own way,on how to protect our caches,be one step ahead of him and learn to think like him.His intentions,motivations and actions after the fact of plundering.What is he going to do after he did it ? Strike twice or turn tail ? Stike twice or turn tail ?? MadGPS
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    Securing Caches

    Bunkerdave I think we could be figthing an uphill battle here.Personnaly,I'd remove all coordinates from the geocaching webpage to all caches!There !! NO MORE PLUNDER .That would be the most efficiant way to protect,secure or stop the plunder of cache !! Agree ?? Know,what good would that do to the game itself ? As we speak,at this very moment,a plunderer is whatching me discusting this issue with you.Now,if we come up with a very good solution to minimize this plundering activity,who's going to know at the same time?You guess it,your friendly plunderer ! Now,an another way to stop him from finding out what we are talking about,is not to talk about it at all.This way here,we cannot educate him on the activaties or solutions we come up.We have to be creative,in our own way,on how to protect our caches,be one step ahead of him and learn to think like him.His intentions,motivations and actions after the fact of plundering.What is he going to do after he did it ? Strike twice or turn tail ? Stike twice or turn tail ?? MadGPS
  21. Guest

    Cache Items

    Rubberstamps? Talk to the letterboxers at their website: letterboxing.org. They skip all the prizes and just use logbooks and rubberstamps. The really good boxers make their own stamps from vinyl erasers, like a Staedtler-MARS, the kind used by artists & architects. To make your own rubberstamp, draw or xerox a suitable design, preferably an image that's somehow related to the geocache location. Then put the paper on the eraser, and rub it with nail polish remover to transfer the image to the eraser. Finally, use an Exacto knife or Speedball linoleum carving tools to remove all the rubber that isn't part of the image. Anton ------------------ Anton Ninno - N2RUD Syracuse, NY 13210
  22. I think it would be cool to meet people that share the same interest as me and talk a little about geocaching.I think we should be cool to each other.Not snobby.definately say hi at least, If you walk right up on somebody else.If I thought I could stay out of their site and not mess up the moment I would wait until the other folks left and then move in.
  23. Have the need to talk to fellow Geocacher's? try this chat room.. http://chat.hotx.com/chat/diggers#start a couple of how-to's type in your Nickname, and hit "update" then enter your text, and hit "send" continue to hit "Update" to get screen refreshes. I know it says treasure hunting, But Its kind of appropriate. Feel free to use it, please dont abuse it. OZ ------------------ Carmen Sandiego is at S 45 45.001 E 150 55.976
  24. hi, i'm a freelance writer doing a story on geocaching in the danbury area for the news-times. i'd like to talk to someone in the vicinity. anybody out there? steve stephenkrcmar@yahoo.com
  25. quote:Originally posted by Quinnow:What you should see is my point of view as to what "I" feel is right and wrong. Telling others that you feel their point of view is "wrong", which is what I infer from your comments on this issue, tends to get people's defenses up. Better if you had just said your personal preference is that people not publish spoilers, but you understand and respect their valid reasons for doing so. I'm afraid we're in an impossible situation. Some people want the logs to serve like movie reviews, to decide if they should hunt this cache or not. Others want the logs to serve like a bar where people gather after the movie to discuss what they all just saw. The logs can't serve both functions. And as I don't believe a bunch of amateur geocachers will ever have the skills of professional movie reviewers, I hold out no hope of keeping spoilers out of the logs, no matter how much we lobby, beg, and scold. Besides, even if we could get everyone to censor what they write, we'd still lose the second function. Where CAN the successful hunters gather and talk about every gory detail without fear of spoiling it for others? The best solution I see is that we encourage people to say what they want in the logs, and encourage hunters to exercise self restraint and not read the logs until after their hunt is over.
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