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That is assuming that any modification to the fence post cap is needed. Most of the fence posts caches I have seen either have a container connected to a metal hanger, or have a PVC container in the post. With the metal hanger, the hanger loops over the top of the post, and the cap covers it. To access, pop the cap, then use the hanger to lift out the container. Generally, a fence with metal posts will place larger (up to 4") posts at corners, and every couple of 100 feet. Build a PVC container cache that will fit into the post. Make sure to add an eye hook on both ends. Elevate the container to just below the top of the post by dropping a stick (or small rocks) into the post. To access, pop the cap, and grab the top of the PVC container.

First, read up on the commercial guidelines in the Help Center. noncentric posted a great guide, and provided a link. As for a company putting out caches, so long as they follow all the guidelines, this shouldn't be a problem. I know of churches, counties, cities, and other organizations that put out caches, why not a commercial business. Again, so long as they follow the guidelines. There are other things I would take into consideration, such as the surroundings. Would the cache be near a strip mall, or shopping center? Cachers go after caches at all hours of the day. Would they get stopped by law enforcement for snooping around at 1:00AM? Good hiding areas near businesses may be difficult to find. What camouflage would be needed to keep the cache from getting stolen? A container in a flower pot may be problematic for a number of reasons. A bird house cache may be a better cache. And, let's not forget the unofficial rule for placing geocaches. "When you go to hide a geocache, think of the reason you are bringing people to that spot. If the only reason is for the geocache, then find a better spot." briansnat, Charter Member There are other ways that a company could support the local geocaching community. Consider organizing a reward trail, or even an officially sponsored GeoTour. Find a specific set of geocaches, write down a pass phrase on a 'passport', and provide a trackable geocoin for completion of the passport. The company could provide funding for the geocoin. There is a separate forum for GeoTours & Reward Trails.

Search for "giant mousetrap cache". A giant mousetrap, with the ammo can (painted yellow to look like cheese) as the bait. WVTim has a YouTube video that talks about the construction details.

I'm going to revise my thoughts a bit: After some research, I believe that we are mixing up two very similar words. They are 'historic' and 'historical'. From vocabulary.com; "Something historic has great importance to human history. Something historical is related to the past." Based on that, Potters Pond would probably be historical, while the very first cache would be historic.

The OP used the word 'historic'. I believe that this term is subjective, and will have different meanings to different people. For some, it may be simply based on the age. Is Potters Pond historical? I've done Potters Pond, it is an ammo can in the woods. Nothing special about it, except for the fact it is one of 3 or 4 caches remaining that were placed in Aug 2000. To anyone attempting a Jasmer challenge today, this cache is important. MNTA used the example of GC12. Just a bucket in the woods behind a log, near a stream crossing. But it is old, and when I found it, it was not water filled, and had old log books. For others, it is a significant milestone in the hobby of geocaching. For example, is the 1,000,000th cache historical? How about the 2,000,000th? Tribute caches are used to mark something 'historic', either a location of a previous cache, or to highlight the deeds of a cacher. Do these fit the definition of 'historic'? I really can't come up with a precise definition of what I would consider 'historic', I just know it when I see it. What ever it is, it will probably fit one or more of the examples I've listed above.

I revisit caches for three reasons. The first is that I am going past it, and I just do a quick courtesy visit. The second is with a group. The third is when I see someone that appears to be looking for the cache. (Met Moun10bike that way.) In any case, I don't sign the log if found. I might post a note if the cache hasn't been visited in a while or there was a prior DNF, and I will post a NM if the cache is missing.

Some of the high stats used to come because of sloppiness. The cacher would use some automated script, and end up posting multiple logs. They would never take the time to clean up the duplicates. As for my opinion on the 'race', like several others have said, I don';t care.

On the question of multi versus power trail, IMO, it depends on the location, theme, and the cache description. The long straight highways around the ET trail don't offer much in the way of different scenery. To me, a multi at this location would be boring, and a power trail would be a challenge to see just how long I could put up with being a mindless robot. But, a well done multi-cache or power trail in a very diverse area could get me to stop every 528 feet. (Unfortunately, most areas like that are off limits to caches, like National Parks.) A good theme helps with a multi-cache. I can't think of any really compelling themes around the ET highway that would get me to stop every 528 feet. A five or six stage multi on the highway may be all that the theme can handle. However, other areas may be able to come up with something that would could handle a stop every 528 feet. Say a tour of some areas of Yellowstone National Park (ignoring the fact that caches are not allowed there). My main issue with multi-caches is with cache descriptions that don't let me know a general area of where I'm going to end up. If I know that up-front, I can better plan my trips. There is one fantastic (by my standards) multi-cache that starts out of Lewiston, called Spyder Caves. From the description and attributes, I know that there is a hike involved. What it doesn't tell me is that the cache is about 60km outside of Lewiston. A couple of WP's in the Lewiston area, then quite a ways down the highway to the next WP. From there, a hike following abandoned railroad tracks through tunnels, and across trestles. And, if you choose to continue to follow the tracks after finding the cache, in a short distance you come to a trailhead. The cache description does not mention the lengthy drive or bike trip, nor does it list any possible staging areas for parking for the return trip. (Also, the attributes don't mention the rattlesnakes either.)

I see two reasons for doing a power trail. The first is for the overall find count, and the second is a high find rate per day. Both are measurable stats that some people like to compare, and brag about. To answer your question, I believe the answer is no, if it was a 1,000+ stage multi-cache, no one would do it.

Just tried it on my system, and it is working for me.

Yep, that's been an underlying assumption for several of my posts, I just didn't state it as eloquently.

I'm of mixed feelings about caches in people's yards. For me, it really boils down to the cache description. A good description that let's me get straight to the cache helps. I have actually driven considerable distance to do a couple of really well done yard caches. But the description, along with gallery images, is what compelled me to do those yard caches. Generally, I find the actual containers for yard caches to be a bit more interesting. For example, I did a yard cache where the theme was Doctor Who. They had a scene with a Weeping Angel and a Dalek. The TARDIS was a blue painted filing cabinet. The cache was in the bottom drawer of the filing cabinet. Another cache was inside a giant (about 4' across) spider hanging in a tree. This cache was featured in one of the Geocaching newsletter. Another one featured in the newsletter was a walk-in cache that looked like a giant ammo can. 7' tall, 4' wide, and 12' long. They even had 'smiley' symbols posted on the long shared driveway so you wouldn't wind up in the neighbors yard. So basically, reassure me that it is OK, make it interesting, and make it straight forward to find, and I will do them.

I love finding foreign coins. I have my Dad's coin collection after he passed away. He did a fair bit of travelling around. Nothing worth a lot, just cool to look at.

Land can change ownership, and restrictions on the use of land can change over time. Also, the people involved in the land management can change. However (with certain exceptions), once permission is given, GS assumes that permission is given in perpetuity. GS has no formal requirement that permission be re-applied for on a routine basis for all caches. (By the way, I'm NOT advocating for such a requirement.) Given this, I I think NanCycle's reply is way to handle it. Let the land manager know that there is a geocache that may no longer meet their current land use restrictions. Let them make the call, it's their land. In addition, let the land manager know that there are some locations where geocachers are required to renew their permissions, or are only granted permission for a specific period of time. I know that some parks have this practice. Your preserve might decide that they want implement a permitting system for geocaches, and require that they be moved, or removed, after a couple of years, in order to give the area a chance to recover. On the reputation side (and off on a tangent), ask the preserve management if you could hold a CITO event. Maybe start them off with a positive experience interacting with geocachers.

My cache streak of a whopping 25 days is purely un-intentional. My decision to stop a streak started before it began. I saw a streak challenge cache and said 'no way'. No fun in it. (And expensive, and a waste of time in transit.) So, I have never attempted a streak. Also, while there are lots of caches around me, most are completely uninteresting. I prefer a different set of challenges, challenges like filling my 365/366 day calendar. If that means getting one a day for a while, I might do it then. But not just to reach some arbitrary number.

Couple of thoughts and questions. You say a geocache event. Are you thinking of a single day Event, or an event that lasts for several months. In other words, would you be creating an Event type cache at the library? I'm going to assume that you are looking at an event lasting several months. In that cache, the series of caches you are proposing would be a reward trail. There is a forum dedicated to GeoTours and Reward Trails which may be another area to solicit ideas. Don't forget, regular caches cannot require interaction with staff, so all caches must be able meet that criteria. To me, using code words is probably your best means of verifying that some found the caches. Using a label maker, come up with a word and affix it to the inside of the container. You can generate a 'passport' that cachers would fill out to claim the reward. Stamps or stickers may be mistaken for swag, but the code words usually persist.

You could also consider a GeoTour, or a reward trail. Check out this forum post for their locations. I've done 6 GeoTours, and they were all really well done. The advantage is that these caches are usually well maintained.

Yes, I agree with barefootjeff. Please change it so there is more contrast, as the current color selection takes me more effort to read.

In the OP, there are two coincident events. The end of the GeoTour, and the archiving of the caches that made up the GeoTour. When a GeoTour ends, the caches are not automatically archived. There are plenty of former GeoTour caches that are still active. Here's one: https://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC4AZRY_wastatepks100-steamboat-rock

I found a hand knitted stocking cap, in a plastic bag, along with a note from the person who knitted it. It was done in the 4-color Geocaching logo colors.

I'll be different. I happen to like the fact that the GeoTour attribute is removed from the cache when the GeoTour ends. It makes managing the caches loaded on my GPSr units a lot easier. When I load caches into my GPSr, I alter the name of the cache to add various keywords to the beginning of the cache name for priority caches. This makes the primitive search tools on my GPSr more useful to me. I can easily search for GeoTour, or any of my other so-called priority caches with a name search. Having the attribute (or not) makes it easy to manage my keyword for GeoTour caches. If the attribute is gone when I reload the GPSr, the keyword automatically disappears. (Yes, I do use GSAK to do my intermediate processing, but I could also do the same with hand-written scripts.)

Yep, my fingers are crossed. Another question that I have is what will be done about already closed GeoTours. I 'completed' the Lane County GeoTours out of Eugene, OR, but did not get all of the caches. I took several multi-day vacations to get them, and at the time, not all were available. Many of them no longer exist. Therefore, I cannot get them all, even if I went back. Personally, I don't care much about souvenirs. However, if I did, I would want to get credit for all of my completed GeoTours. My OCD doesn't allow any other option. So, I think GS should address what they are planning to do with past GeoTours. As a simple algorithm, I think that a percentage complete (Lane County: 24 out of 36, WA State Parks: 100 out of 103, HQ: 9 out of 9, Spokane: 80%) would be fairly accurate, and satisfy a large number of GeoTour participants.

I agree with The Leprechauns: I've done code word and stamp required caches as part of various GeoTours. Lots of extra paperwork. With these caches, a GeoCoin was on the line, so I was willing to do the paperwork. I never had missing code words, but I have run into missing stamps. Lots of hassle to people that play by the rules to prevent a few bad actors. Not worth it in my mind for non-GeoTour caches.

I have the same basic advice as Korichnovui. Watch the attention span, and go for larger containers with swag.

I want to point out a bit of confusion I had with the blog. It revolves around the word 'completed'. GeoTour sponsors have their definition of completed, and the blog implies that GS has a different definition. (And, a sponsor may have several 'levels' of completion.) I would like to have souvenirs that match the sponsor's criteria for completion. I have several random thoughts and suggestions below. The WA State Parks GeoTour had a silver level (50), and a gold level (100), with a total of 103 caches. The Spokane GeoTours used a point system, that included select purchases made in the Spokane area. Specific caches had different point values, spending the night in a Spokane area hotel was worth some points. The Spokane GeoTour also had a complete change of theme during its second year, and list of caches completely changed at the same time. I haven't looked at every GeoTour, there may be other criteria that I am unaware of. IMO, a simplistic souvenir award system that only awards based on finding all (or a fixed number) of the GeoTours caches is not the way to go. First, GeoTours are generally put on by tourism groups that are using it to attract geocachers to their area. I live near Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. My first four GeoTours were based out of Eugene, Oregon, some 500 miles away. So, I spent a bunch of money to do the GeoTour. Of course, some of the caches were unavailable when I was in town because of a variety of factors, including temp disabled, road closures, and being covered by 2 feet of snow. With the WA State Parks GeoTour, I logged several thousand miles to get 102 out of 103 of the caches. That last cache had a high terrain rating, and I have bad knees. I physically could not do it safely, but I did meet the sponsor's Gold Level requirements. In both of these cases, I would have liked to get a souvenir so that I can show off, but I was never going to be able to find all of the caches. Therefore, a souvenir for finding ALL of the caches has no value for me, and therefore adds no value to the GeoTour sponsor. I couldn't put together an easy algorithm that could be used to automatically assign a souvenir that was based on a sponsor's requirement. My suggestion is to allow GeoTour sponsors to create souvenirs, and give them a web page where they could assign their souvenirs to a cacher. If they are going to have different levels of completion, or multiple themes, the sponsor should be able to have multiple souvenirs that they could assign. This way, the definition of completion matches between the sponsor and GS. On the other hand, if GS implements the souvenir in an automated way, I would suggest that GS not use the word 'completed' when talking about the souvenir. Maybe say that every GeoTour has a bonus souvenir for finding every cache of the GeoTour. That way, there is no ambiguity about the definition of completed. That might cut down on the number of queries that GS would get asking where their souvenir is when they have completed the sponsor's requirements.