Bloencustoms

Well, I started to read this thread and began skimming, then finally skipping posts. Obviously the idea is to prevent weapons from being placed in caches. Blades have been effectively used as weapons for centuries. Multi-tool devices usually have a blade of some sort, and can be used as a weapon. It wouldn't be my first choice, but I can see how a desperate prisoner could use one. I think it royally sucks that in this country, we have to worry about so many obscure "what if" situations. But, if keeping certain items out of caches will improve the sport's image in the eyes of the "what if" crowd, then I suppose it's worth it. Too bad there are so many people making laws and rules to cover every possible scenario, no matter how remote. If some idiot falls on a Mc toy and dies, that's just evolution. It's a natural process that can't be legislated, no matter how hard they try.

The first multi I ever placed had cachers go to a location, copy two sets of coordinates stamped on an aluminum plate, and travel to the first set. The then had to sight along a compass bearing, and read the name of the building in the distance. The building has "LANDMARK" in huge letters written on it and is visible for over a mile. They then add the number of letters (8) to the second set of coordinates, and follow them to the final cache. It has been archived for several months now, because it was a little far away for me to check up on as often as I'd like. Ironicly, the cache that is closest to my home is the one I have had the least amount of maintenance issues with. Anyway, I placed the multi in hopes of inspiring others to make similar caches. I really enjoy the adventure that a more complex cache can provide.

Almost makes you want to put a disclaimer on the cache page... "This cache might be considered lame in some people's opinion. You have the option to refrain from finding it. If you do attempt the cache, and the experience is not so bad as to stop you before you complete your search, this will be considered an endorsement of the quality of the cache. If you log a find then complain about the experience, it will be deleted, because you had the option to stop your search at any point before the actual find."

I think the NP's are more important than the FWR's in terms of caching. I wonder what the people who made the decision to ban caching would say if confronted with the snowmobile hypocrisy.

I knew what it meant the first time I saw it months ago. It means up in your ****. Anyone who can't see that must have a heck of a time reading personalized license plates. The term means that the person is either "in your face" as before a fist fight, or having an affair with your significant other. At least that's how it is used in the region where I reside. Still, I think it's harmless enough as a username, any negative connotations are up to the reader to decide.

I love the page counters! Very cool. I have put them on three caches so far. It's nice to be able to choose from several different backgrounds, it helps to associate the background with the actual cache. It's really neat to view the counter ticker on the right side of the homepage as well. This is the start of something big. As caching gains popularity in LA, the site is going to become a very useful resource. I already made it my home page in my browser.

I have had people ask me for directions several times. Although, I can't remember a single instance of someone asking me which way North was.

I usually have the map oriented north up, both on the GPSr, and the laptop. In the few instances I have used my GPSr with the map oriented in the direction of travel, it has been when using the trackback feature. It makes more sense to use it that way, for that purpose.

I had an idea, warn percentage goes down 20% for every 30 days you refrain from posting.

Very cool! I had tried to reister with the site months ago and discovered it was not operational. I found it by clicking someone's Keenpeople link, then got there from keenpeople. I regret not seeing the old one, but the new one is really slick.

So, if that's the case, then the only caves that cavers frequent are the ones that are not overly sensitive. I see Church Camp Dave's point, if it can handle visits from cavers, it can handle visits from cachers.

What are some of the topics that keep coming up over and over again? We're all familiar with the "what kind of GPS'r do you use" threads. Let's see some examples of such threads. Some of them keep reappearing for obvious reasons, others just won't die. Perhaps by reviewing all of them, we'll remeber why they died off in the first place. Not sure, but it's possible this thread is a repeat as well.

I have a bison container cache. I took a pencil, and used a bench grinder to narrow it down enough to roll a strip of paper around the outside, so the cache contains both a log and a writing instrument.

Caching has yet to really "take off" here like it has in other areas. I'd have to say that I have yet to encounter someone who is not a cacher, or friend of one, who has heard of it.

Perhaps the biggest danger is addiction. Soon your work will begin to suffer, your family and friends will begin to worry about you, and you will be spending way too much on trae items and containers. Seriously though, just prepare as you would for hiking if the cache is in a wilderness area, and when caching in an urban environment, try not to draw attention to yourself. Geocaching is basically walking, hiking, or running (FTF) with a purpose. I try to go with a buddy if at all possible. It is safer, and more fun to share the experience. Use common sense when deciding which caches to hunt. IF something looks wrong or out of place, don't do it! Trust your gut, it is usually right. If it looks like the cache might be on private property, you may wish to email the owner for more info before attempting it. Know your abilities, and try not to do caches that are too strenuous. Pay attention to terrain ratings, and prepare accordingly. And finally, have as much fun as you can.

Toss up between a new model airplane engine, and a couple of DVD's.

Look at it this way, if you logged a find, it at least was worth continuing to search. If the experience was so bad due to lack of scenery, trash, bad neighborhood, thorns, etc, you could have stopped searching right then. The fact that you continued long enough to actually find the cache and log it tells me it had to be at least worth that much.

Multiple listings might serve to cause confusion. If I have a cache laisted on one site, and archived on another, (because of some hypothetical listing guideline that only applies to one site, it's possible that some well intended cacher might remove the cache for having seen it as archived. It would make more work for findes, as they would have to check the status of each cache on every site, then try to guess what the cache's status really is if it differed from one site to the next. The onl real way to know is to go out and find it. Another problem is the possibility that the hider only monitors one site for logs, and may not get up to date info on their cache from finders using a different site.

no possibly no yes

I noticed two new caches in my area last night. As of this posting, they are still unfound. There is a cacher who usually makes an effort to get FTF, and will likely claim them today. Could I have gotten FTF? Possibly, if I could find them in the dark last night. Was it important enough to rush out into the cold for it? Apparently not. Like the post above me, I believe it's all related to how bad you want it.

I heard a rumor that ammo cans will no longer be sold to the public after april 2005.

Sometimes, a really poor quality cache is a waste of time, and an unpleasant experience. I have been to quite a few caches placed in briar patches of small parks. No favor to me... Haha! Some people act like they're doing the placer a favor by hunting it!

I remember reading the FTF log on the first cache I placed that was a person's first FTF, but I haven't seen any FTF for first find logs. Now, say that five times fast.

I'd love to just send $30 in the mail. Boy would that be easy.

I'm with BrianSnat on this one. I think you should have adressed your concerns in an email first, if you did not receive a response in a reasonable amount of time, then go ahead and post your concerns. If the cache is not breaking any laws, then the only remaining issue is it's quality. I'm not sure if you intend this thread to discuss that particular cache, or any less than "ideal" cache. I take it to mean the latter, because of the plural in the title. So, if the cache meets the guidelines, and breaks no laws, you have only it's quality to post about. If you did not enjoy the hunt, so be it. Go ahead and say so. You could publicly tell the hider, and all of the past and potential finders exactly how to make the cache better, in your opinion. But I would not try to win any popularity contests. Remember, they did you a favor by placing a cache for you to find.