Monterry
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Anyone who is even thinking about harrassing any other cacher, especially via the geocaching.com mail system should please read the Terms Of Use for this website.
Particularly Section 4 which states, and I quote:
4. Use of Publishing Tools and Forums
The Groundspeak Forums, accessible through the “Discuss Geocaching” link in the Site’s navigation bar as well as through other links, are governed by this Agreement and are also subject to such additional terms and conditions as Groundspeak may, from time to time, post in the Groundspeak Forums area.
You and not Groundspeak, are entirely responsible for all content that you upload, post or otherwise transmit via the Site. You agree not to:
(a) Upload, post or otherwise transmit any content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, slanderous, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, embarrassing, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable to any other person or entity.
(b ) Impersonate any person or entity, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with any person or entity.
(c ) Upload, post or otherwise transmit any content that you do not have a right to transmit under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationship.
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(e) Upload, post or otherwise transmit any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, "junk mail," "spam," "chain letters," "pyramid schemes," or any other form of solicitation.
(f) Upload, post or otherwise transmit any content that contains viruses or any other computer code, files or programs which interrupt, destroy, limit the functionality of, or cause damage to the Site or any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment.
(g) Disrupt the normal flow of dialogue or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other users' ability to engage in real time exchanges.
(h) Interfere with or disrupt the Site or servers or networks connected to the Site, or fail to comply with any requirements, procedures, policies or regulations of networks connected to the Site.
(i) Violate any applicable local, state, national or international law.
(j) "Stalk," harass, or otherwise harm another Site user.
(k) Collect or store personal data about other Site users.
(l) Promote or provide instructional information about illegal activities, promote physical harm or injury against any group or individual.
Failure to comply could result in your account and any subsequent accounts you may sign up being banned from the site for good. I do not mean you will be banned from the forums, I mean you will be banned from the www.geocaching.com website.
Don't do it.
I hear you - thanks
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What's the etiquette or proper respect that cachers should have in regards to trackable items that aren't owned by anyone in particular? Are there any hard and fast laws in place? Should there be? Should we be able to "tattle" to Groundspeak on a fellow cacher for hoarding items or not playing by our well-known rules? Should a player be banned from caching? Or at least the website? Or is there a polite way to simply tell someone that they're not playing fairly?
I'm about to email a cacher who has really irritated me, yet I wanted a few opinions first. Team Smoke had picked up a Red Jeep TB that I dropped off at the start of this years contest and had never dropped it off anywhere. I have since noticed that this cacher hoards NOT 1, BUT 2 of every year’s Jeep TBs without dropping them off. This cacher is like quicksand for jeeps...they go in but never come out. How should I approach this email without seeming too threatening? (Although I'd like to, as this kind of practice may discontinue Jeep from participating next year or years thereafter.) Is it even my place to say anything, as some view this game as their own and a cacher would referee him/herself, unlike team sports or true contests.
Thanks for any advice as this really razzes me!!!
I hear you.... thanks
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Anyone who is even thinking about harrassing any other cacher, especially via the geocaching.com mail system should please read the Terms Of Use for this website.
Particularly Section 4 which states, and I quote:
4. Use of Publishing Tools and Forums
The Groundspeak Forums, accessible through the “Discuss Geocaching” link in the Site’s navigation bar as well as through other links, are governed by this Agreement and are also subject to such additional terms and conditions as Groundspeak may, from time to time, post in the Groundspeak Forums area.
You and not Groundspeak, are entirely responsible for all content that you upload, post or otherwise transmit via the Site. You agree not to:
(a) Upload, post or otherwise transmit any content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, slanderous, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, embarrassing, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable to any other person or entity.
(b ) Impersonate any person or entity, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with any person or entity.
(c ) Upload, post or otherwise transmit any content that you do not have a right to transmit under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationship.
(d) Upload, post or otherwise transmit any content that infringes any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other intellectual property or proprietary rights of any person, including without limitation under any privacy or publicity rights.
(e) Upload, post or otherwise transmit any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, "junk mail," "spam," "chain letters," "pyramid schemes," or any other form of solicitation.
(f) Upload, post or otherwise transmit any content that contains viruses or any other computer code, files or programs which interrupt, destroy, limit the functionality of, or cause damage to the Site or any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment.
(g) Disrupt the normal flow of dialogue or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other users' ability to engage in real time exchanges.
(h) Interfere with or disrupt the Site or servers or networks connected to the Site, or fail to comply with any requirements, procedures, policies or regulations of networks connected to the Site.
(i) Violate any applicable local, state, national or international law.
(j) "Stalk," harass, or otherwise harm another Site user.
(k) Collect or store personal data about other Site users.
(l) Promote or provide instructional information about illegal activities, promote physical harm or injury against any group or individual.
Failure to comply could result in your account and any subsequent accounts you may sign up being banned from the site for good. I do not mean you will be banned from the forums, I mean you will be banned from the www.geocaching.com website.
Don't do it.
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I've got three TBs out there that are 20mm shell casings shot from an F-15E in combat in Iraq (back in November 2004).
I'm interested to see where they travel to.
CONGRATS- VISITING N.C. IN OCTOBER SURE HOPE TO FIND ONE. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO (DID?)
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I've got three TBs out there that are 20mm shell casings shot from an F-15E in combat in Iraq (back in November 2004).
I'm interested to see where they travel to.
visiting N.C.in October, plan on caching. Sure hope to run into one of yours.Thanks for what you do (did?)
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As the TB moderator here has said before:
Harassment of other cachers is grounds for being banned.
tb STEALING SHOULD BE TOO.
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Maybe the names of the offending jeep theives
could be posted here on the forums and we could all mass mail them to shame them into putting the jeeps back into circulation as they were intended to be. At the very least, maybe they would get tired of being harassed about it and quit altogether. After all, their activities of hoarding are ruining the game for the rest of us who play by the rules. I 100% agree and am willing to help with the mail thing.MONTERRY
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My favourite is Fairbanks. He's heading for Fairbanks Alaska. We keep running into him locally and can't figure out why he isn't going home (other than maybe he doesn't want to).
The first time we found him, he was heading for Winter and was improperly dressed, so we added a sweater, warm jeans and a toque to his appearance. Then we found him again in Spring and changed his outfit to suit the Season. We gave him a lighter sweater and a cowboy hat. Haven't seen him lately. Does anyone have Fairbanks and how is he?
Monterry
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I just have to ask, would you care if a local cacher went and retrieved all the bugs as soon as you put them in there, all the time, every time? I'm sure there's a lot of people who would do that, seeing as it's just a prison, as you call it.
I really would not care. Its just a game to me. If I called this a Travel Bug Resort with a lake view, no one would get upset but the location, concept and design would all be the same.
Of course you would care. If you go to all the work (fun) of designing and setting a hotel cache, it does matter that someone empties it, leaving nothing for the next poor cacher. It's a matter of courtesy.
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I feel the same . If I don't like the imposed rules, I just don't go there.
The same could be said for all the people who complain about micros. If micros offend you, just don't do that cache. READ BEFORE YOU SEEK. Happy caching
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I feel the same . If I don't like the imposed rules, I just don't go there.
The same could bve said for all the people who complain about micros. If micros offend you, just don't do that cache. READ BEFORE YOU SEEK. Happy caching
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List it as a multi or puzzle and make 'em project a few waypoints or do a few bearings. That'll weed out the lazy ones and make sure thoughtful people (or at least ones with a reasonable attention span) are those who find it.
For StarBrand who quotes definitions: think about it. That was the irony of the title. They are the destroyers of their own game. As long as they have their fun (& numbers), they don`t really care about the next cacher.
Thanks to all who have responded to my query, I appreciate all the help and suggestions. We have over 50 hides now and find the maintenance time required after a numbers group to be too much. If cachers treat a cache as if it was their own, most problems would be eliminated. We could go caching instead of doing maintenance. A lot of our caches were just to visit new or interesting sites. We have now reverted to adding a greater challenge to the finds in order to keep away the ``lazy ones``.
Again, thanks to all and happy caching.
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I didn't say more genius [sic].
I do not see anything useful in this comment (sic)
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ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO STOP THIS??
The harder the cache the fewer lazy cachers.
not so, I find the more genius the cache, the less likely muggle cachers take the time to replace properly.
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I have an issue with geocachers who hunt in a group and do not bother to replace the caches properly.
We go to a lot of trouble to design and place our caches only to find them just dropped near the coord.
They are left in the open or not securely closed so that everything gets wet. We find that the "all about numbers" groups are not true geocachers, disrespectful and rude. If people did not go to the trouble of providing fun and interesting caches, where would be the fun in caching. ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO STOP THIS?? Some of these muggles also walk off with the TBs and they are never heard from again!!!!!!!
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could be posted here on the forums and we could all mass mail them to shame them into putting the jeeps back into circulation as they were intended to be. At the very least, maybe they would get tired of being harassed about it and quit altogether. After all, their activities of hoarding are ruining the game for the rest of us who play by the rules. 
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