Team GeoCan

It happened this morning to Team GeoCan, Bridget and I were doing a Scurvy Dog multi where the second location was adjacent to a sidewalk in a new housing tract. The Superentendant advised us (and the cops) that we were trespassing on private land, because he hadn't signed it over to the city yet. I explained what and why we were looking in the foliage next to the sidewalk, but he was TOTALLY unimpressed. He told us to leave, and told us that if he found the cache, there would be hell to pay. He seriously wanted us arrested for trespassing BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

I remember Mtn. Dew used to stuff t-shirts in soda cans. They were OBVIOUSLY different since the whole top popped off like a cat food can. BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

Originally posted by Cruzin!: quote:Originally by Benjamin Franklin:_They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety._ Quoting Franklin is always interesting, considering he was in the middle of a Revolution at the time. We aren't in the same situation, and a lot has changed in the world since the 1700s. Some would have us think that we are 100% free at all times, but we are bound by built in limits in society, andf I am afraid the geocaching as freedom over the public safety Argument just won't cut it. Yas I am as protective of my rights as anyone else, BUT I know when my "priorities" are secondary to larger issues, and Geocaching isn't an "essential liberty". BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! [url=http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/]http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/[/url

So do we have to set a physical check of Caches before approval, peer review? Do we ACTIVELY police ourselves in a more thorough method to assure we are noot leaving ourselves open to the threat of arrest if we are too close to an infrastructurally significant locale? Do we set a probationary period on approved caches until an active cacher can visit it and look for violations of placement rules and content issues? I look at it this way: We as adults should have the ability to work within the guidelines. We should also be "adult" enough to accept that our personal reading of the rules may be slightly "off" of the way others understand them. We should also know that the rules are there for a reason, and perhaps we are unaware of what the reason is, but should STILL act within the rules. As this sport develops there will be increased self regulation, via rules and guidelines, and we should adapt as needed. International security issues HAVE changed our way of life, wehether we like it or not, PUBLIC safety overides personal recreational issues. Sure some restrictions are based on poor understanding and unreasonable fears, but policies are normally not too flexible when dealing with a secreted object that MAY be hostile. We as placers and seekers MUST think of how we are viewed by the casual observer, and adapt to placing ONLY in areas NOT close to objects that may lead to our containers being explosively investigated. Also in public dealings, we need to be forthright, honest and friendly. If that means a Cache is revealed or has to be moved, I guess we have to comply, or LOSE our sport, eventually, by public restrictions. Cache SMART BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

I think it is strange that we see a need to be covert about our sport, and not just the caches. Sure routine activity to protect the caches is needed, but it doesn't look good to our sport to be percieved as sneaky or deceptive, these are perceptons that can have a large negative effect on the sport as a whole. A "public relations" type of information sheet may be needed to present to "outsiders" which will explain the sport in a way as to prevent us having to lie to authorities, and passers by. Think about the IMAGE promoting the activity, and whether or not the NEXT geocacher will be prejudged by the official or the community as "Suspicious". I often cache with my kids and when they walk up to someone they ANNOUNCE we are Geocaching. They openly discuss it at school. I discuss it with my non-geocaching friends, who seem to think "I have too much free time on my hands." BUT the idea of geocaching as a family activity is planted in my circle, and they look at it as "a variation" of hiking. I even have my community manager participating, by having a walk up cache in her office, (Pending approval), she sees it as a way to get people into our community, and to help promote recreation. Who knows maybe some of the cachers will want to live here. The only way we can avoid suspicion is by being open and making sure the sport is known in general. (I think I will post Geocaching flyers at the local sporting goods stores and at the GPS retailers in my area... There are a few dumpsites I need some volunteers for...those who have large trucks and can haul trash out in quantity...) BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! [url=http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/]http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/[/url

GeoCans are Empty Soda cans with the top cut out and a snap on plastic lid. I paint them green and put trash bags into them. When empty they are Cache continers, and when too beat up for that they are still recyclable as soda cans. BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

Originally posted by ChurchCampDave: Alakazam! Everything turns into guns, religion, and homophobia. GDAE, Dave Hmm. Where IS this Church Camp? Dave? (Just poking, no harm intended) BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

I guess you are going to have to look for them... BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ [This message was edited by Bo Peep & The Sheep on September 28, 2003 at 10:16 AM.]

I Know You logged several of mine. I have your pen fron Cajon Junction TB Motel. The concrete Block and brown pipe were mine. jeff BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

It's probably a not so subtle form of irritating people. Kealia's avatar is FUN to play with. THIS IN NO WAY HAS ANYTHING to do with Cache Pirates, but it does work out pretty nicely: BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

Your Avatar is a photo taken at Chanute AFB, Rantoul Illinois in 1951. The gentleman is a Janitor who took care of the Personal Equipment section. Life Support took care of Flight Helmets and Oxygen masks, parachutes, Survival training and kits. They were (At the time ) called Protective Equipment (PE) troops, but now are Life Support Technicians. (My job in he USAF was Life Support) BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! [url=http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/]http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/[/url

Can't make it, Wife works swing shift. Jeff BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

The faqs say: Q. What is a Travel Bug? A. Simply put, a Travel Bug is a new form of hitchhiker you can track on Geocaching.com. A hitchhiker is basically an item that is carried from cache to cache (or person to person) and you can follow its progress online. ~~~~ OK we can see that placing a TB in a cache logs it, and I have done this, BUT how do you document a traveller's movements if it isn't going cache to cache? Can a travel Bug page have a coordinates input to show where a Bug is, vs which cache it is in as an option to track by MOVEMENT vs. cache hits? I weanted to tag an item to be hand2hand aross the country and have each recipient log it, but there is no mileage or mapping without caching it in. Sure people can "Grab it" and log, but no maps and no way to guess it's progress unless someone specifically writes in A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

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ok so how do we implement it? BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

I leave Sunglasses, and a FM Radio Flashlight with headphones, They go really quickly. Bridget puts in her "Phoenix Egg" necklaces, hair clips and sometimes beaded bracelets she makes herself. Of Course there is the GeoCan, if it fits. BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

I would like to reassign this one to the Cache Pirates: May they LIVE this as a daily plague... The Archbishop of Glasgow's "Monition of Cursing" against the Border Reivers Note: This was taken from George MacDonald Fraser's book THE STEEL BONNETS, and was included in the Blacksheep Society's "Shades of Gray" book, I published in 2000. Jeff Scism "Gude folks, heir at my Archibischop of Glasgwis letters under his round sele, direct to me or any uther chapellane, makand mensioun, with greit regrait, how hevy he beris the pietous, lamentabill, and dolorous complaint that pass our all realme and commis to his eris, be oppin voce and fame, how our souverane lordis trew liegis, men, wiffis and barnys, bocht and redeimit be the precious blude of our Salviour Jhesu Crist, and levand in his lawis, are saikleslie (innocently) part murdrist, part slayne, brynt, heryit, spulziet (spoiled) and reft, oppinly on day licht and under silens of the nicht, and thair takis (farms) and landis laid waist, and thair self banyst therfra, als wele kirklandis as utheris, be commoun tratouris, ravaris, theiffis, dulleand in the south part of this realme, sic as Tevidale, Esdale, Liddisdale, Ewisdale, Nedisdale, and Annandereaill; quhilis hes bene diverse ways persewit and punist be the temperale swerd and our Soverane Lordis auctorite, and dredis nocht the samyn. And thairfoir my said Lord Archbischop of Glasgw hes thocht expedient to strike thame with the terribill swerd of halykirk, quhilk thai may nocht lang endur and resist; and has chargeit me, or any uther chapellane, to denounce, declair and proclame thaim oppinly and generalie cursit, at this market-croce, and all utheris public places. Hairfor throw the auctorite of Almichty God, the Fader of hevin, his Son, our Saviour, Jhesu Crist, and of the Halygaist; throw the auctorite of the Blissit Virgin Sanct Mary, Sanct Michael, Sanct Gabriell, and all the angellis; Sanct John the Baptist, and all the haly patriarkis and prophets; Sanct Peter, Sanct Paull, Sanct Andro, and all haly appostillis; Sanct Stephin, Sanct Laurence, and all haly mertheris (martyrs); Sanct Gile, Sanct Martyn, and all haly confessouris; Sanct Anne, Sanct Katherin, and all haly virginis and matronis; and of all the sanctis and haly company of hevin; be the auctorite of our Haly Fader the Paip and his cardinalis, aned of my said Lord Archibischop of Glasgw, be the avise and assistance of my lordis, archibischop, bischopis, abbotis, priouris, and utheris prelatis and minesteris of halykirk. I denounce, proclamis, and declaris all and sindry the committaris of the said saikles murthris, slauchteris, brinying, heirchippes, reiffis, thiftis and spulezeis, oppinly apon day licht and under silence ofnicht, alswele within temporale landis as kirklandis; togither with thair partakeris, assitaris, supplearis, wittandlie resettaris (knowing receivers) of thair personis, the gudes reft and stollen be thaim, art or part thereof, and their counsalouris and defendouris, of thair evil dedis generalie CURSIT, waryit (execrated), aggregeite, and reaggregeite, with the GREIT CURSING. I curse their heid and all the haris of thair heid; I curse thair face, thair ene, thair mouth, thair neise, thair tongue, thair teeth, thair crag, thair shoulderis, thair breist, thair hert, thair stomok, thair bak, thair wame(womb), thair armes, thais leggis, thair handis, thair feit, and everilk part of thair body, frae the top of their heid to the soill of thair feet, befoir and behind, within and without. I curse thaim gangand (going), and I curse them rydland (riding); I curse thaim standand, and I curse thaim sittand; I curse thaim etand, I curse thaim drinkand; I curse thaim walkand, I curse thaim sleepand; I curse thaim risand, I curse thaim lyand; I curse thaim at hame, I curse thaim fra hame; I curse thaim within the house, I curse thaim without the house; I curse thair wiffis, thair barnis, and thair servandis participand with thaim in their deides. I way thair cornys, thair catales, thair woll, thair scheip, thjair horse, thair swyne, thair geise, thair hennes, and all thair quyk gude (livestock). I wary their hallis, thair chalmeris (rooms), thair kechingis, thair stanillis, thair barnys, thair biris (cowsheds), thair bernyardis, thair cailyardis (cabbage-patches) thair plewis, thair harrowis, and the gudis and housis that is necessair for their sustentatioun and weilfair. All the malesouns and waresouns (curses) that ever gat warldlie creatur sen the begynnyng of the world to this hour mot licht on thaim. The maledictioun of God, that lichtit apon Lucifer and all his fallowis, that strak thaim frae the hie hevin to the deip hell, mot licht apon thaimr. The fire and the swerd that stoppit Adam far the yettis (gates) of Paradise, mot stop thaim frae the gloire of Hevin. quhill (until) thai forbere and mak amendis. The malesound that lichtit on cursit Cayein, quhen his slew his bruther just Abell saiklessly, mot licth on thaim for the saikles slauchter that thai commit dailie. The maledictioun that lichtit apon all the warlde, man and beist, and all that ever tuk life, quhen all was drownit be the flude of Noye, except Noye and his ark, mot licht apon thame and drouned thame, man and beist, and mak this realm cummirless (free) of thame for thair wicked synnyes. The thunnour and fireflauchtis (lightning) that set doun as rane apon the cities of Zodoma and Gomora, with all the landis about, and brynt thame for thair vile sunnys, mot rane apon thame, and birne thaim for oppin synnis. Tha malesoun and confusion that lichtit on the Gigantis for thair oppressioun and pride, biggand (building) the tour of Bablloun, mot confound thaim and all thair werkis, for thair opppin reiffs and oppressioun. All the plagis that fell apon Pharao and his pepill of Egipt, thair landis, cornse, and cataill, mot fall apon thaim, thair takkis, rowmys (places) and stedingis, cornys and beistis. The watter of Tweid and utheris watteris quhair thair ride mot droun thaim, as the Reid Say drownit King Pharoao and his pepil of Egipt, sersewing Godis pepill of Israell. The erd mot oppin, riffe and cleiff (cleave), and swelly (swallow) thaim quyk to hell, as it swellyt cursit Dathan and Abiron, that genestude (withstood) Moeses and the command of God. The wyld fyre that byrnt Thore and his fallowis to the nowmer of twa hundredth and fyty, and utheris 14000 and 7000 at anys, usurpand aganis Moyses and Aaron, servandis of God, not suddanely birne and consume thaim dailie genestandand the commandis of God and halykirk. The malediction that lichtit suddanely upon fair Absalon, rydant contrair his fader, King David, servand of God, throw the wod, quhen the branchis of ane tre fred (parted) him of his horse and hangit him be the hair, mot lie apon thaain trew Scottis men, and hang thaim siclike tha all the warld may se. The Maledictioun that lichtit apon Olifernus, lieutenant to Nabogodonooser, makand weair (war) and heirchippis apon trew cristin men, the maledictioun that lichtit apon Judas, Pylot, Herod and the Jowis that chucifyit Our Lord, and all the plagis and trublis that lichtit on the citte of Jherusalme thairfor, and upon Simon Magus for his symony, bludy Nero, cusit Ditius Makcensisu, Olibruis, Julianus Apostita and the laiff (rest) of the cruell tirrannis that slew and murthirit Crits haly servandis, mot licth apon thame for thair cruel tiranny and murthirdome of cristin pepill. And all the vengeance that evir was takin sen the warlde began for oppin synnys, and all the plagis and pestilence that ever fell on man or beist, mot fall on thaim for thair oppin reiff, saiklesse slauchter and schedding of innocent blude. I disserver and pairtis thaim fra the kirk of God, and deliveris thaim quyk to the devill of hell, as the Apostill Sanct Paull deliverit Corinthion. I interdite the places thay cum in fra divine service, minitracioun of the sacramentis of halykirk, except the sacrament of baptissing allenerlie (only); and forbiddis all kirkmen to schriffe or absolbe thim of theire synnys, quhill they be firs abolyeit of this cursing. I forbid all cristin man or woman till have ony company with thaime, etand, drynkand, spekand, prayand, lyand, gangand, standand, or in any uther deid doand, under the paine of deidly syn. I discharge all bandis, actis, contractis, athis (oaths) and obligatiounis made to them by ony persounis, outher of lawte (out of loyalty), kyndenes or manrent (personal fealty), salang as thai susteined this cursing, sub that na man be bundin to thaim, and that this be bundin till all men. I tak fra thame and cryis douned all the gude dedis that ever thai did or sall do, quhill thai rise froae this cursing. I declare thaim partles (excluded) of of all matynys, messis, evinsangis, dirigeis or utheris prayeris, on buke or beid; of all pilgrimagis and almouse deids done or to be done in halykirk or be cristin pepill, enduring this cursing. And, finally, I condemn thaim perpetualie to the deip pit of hell, the remain with Lucifer and all his fallowis, and thair bodeis to the gallows of the Burrow Mure, first to be hangit, syne revin and ruggit (then ripped and torn) with doggis, swyne, and utheris wyld beists, abhominable to all the warld. And their candillis gangis frae your sicht, ast mot their saulis gang fra the visage of God, and thair gude faim fra the warld, quhill thai forbeir thair oppin synnys foirsaidis and ryse frae this terribill cursing, and mak satisfaction and pennance." BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

Two of my "disguises" are here: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=80579 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=82883 BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

I wouldn't think of excluding out of area cachers, If they are willing to travel we should appreciate them. Any preferences or suggestions? BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

quote:Originally posted by mtn-man:. I personally do not approve mine since I want someone to check my grammer and spelling. Good thing too. BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

http://www.canada.com/edmonton/edmontonjournal/story.asp?id=B95FBB8D-59AF-411D-B600-E44DC2625446 BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

I thought perhaps we would find a conveniemnt time, and set up a cache, and have a get to know each other dinner somewhere. (perferably on a day/night when most can be there.) BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

Ok lets define some limits. The InlandEmpire is commonly referenced as: San Bernardino and Riverside counties, but tthat covers a WIDE area. Where should we set limits of inclusion? Secondly what is the TOUGHEST access cache in the area? The Remotest? The Highest? The Lowest,? (Badwater is at -282 feet, is there a cache there? Salton Sea is about -80 feet, a cache there?) Jeff BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

What I am looking for is a semi-formal, (or just palin casual) group who can meet for cache events, coffee, or just to plan a picnic or somethig, we could evn set up a "combined" cache that would draw others into our area, for improved caching. On my caches I try tio have a theme, I have two tours (not all caches on each tour are mine), one deals with Route 66, and the other deals with the Earp family. Suggestions? Jeff Scism (Team GeocCan) BAAAD! BAAAAD!!!! A BAAAD Ancestor is Good to Find!!!! http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/