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they lived happily everafter. Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen? [This message was edited by Flockmaster on June 14, 2003 at 07:24 PM.]

and Kurt Vonnegut's pen empties... Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

is very much unreachable today Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

gee on official forms under "Sex?" I write: A: Yes! B: Please! C: Other D: Not lately Under "Race?" I write : Indy 500 Under Phone I write: Until the cut off date. Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

As you can see by panning up the page, mine is concrete encased in Cinder Block. Flip it over and it is just debris. should be fun....(as soon as I get a working GPS....) Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

...because the sheep ate it... Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

Hey I just got a Rat terrier too, she is 6 months old, chewing EVERYTHING and Black and white (mostly black).we were going to call wer COP because she should have "To ptotect and to Serve" stenciled on her Black and white sides..., BUT we call her Ki-ki, which means 2 kilos. Now to fit her in the cache, she already has a tag.... Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

Geocacher posted June 13, 2003 09:16 AM quote: Originally posted by Theole34: lensatic or bust. I've got a lensatic compass, but I find it moves very slowly and sometimes takes a very long time to settle. Doesn't seem to be a problem getting stuck, as it moves very smoothly; just very slowly. I'm thinking of getting a low end orienteering compass just to speed things up when I'm in a hurry and don't need incredible accuracy. Does anyone know if this slowness is common with lensatic compasses, or is mine the exception? `````````` Does the lid lock the dial while it is closed? if so then the dial lock may not be fuly disengaged, try fully opening the cover Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

But why take the TBs out of circulation without logging them out? and why hold them for so long without notifying the originators? A lot of people put a lot of time into planning the travel Bug, and getting it going, tracking it, and seeing how people react. Think of the months of enjoyment that these TBs didn't provide, and the anxiety the originators felt when they disappeared without a trace. It is discourteous to appropriate TBs, and hold them for long periods. How any people gave up on TBs because the ones in your area kept disappearing Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

What if you find a cache that had been moved, is it ok to take it to the posted coordinates and rehide it? Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

...the cowboys were saddled up... Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

...and fired up the music... Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

If You get LOST and start walking cut a NOTCH in the back of the shoe HEELS so that trackers can tell it is YOU they are tracking. If you come across tracks you then may find you are circling (usually to the right). Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

I spent sixteen years in the USAF, mostly packing survival kits, and YES the kits worked well, and there was a cache bag. I was doing Arctic Indoctrination training in Anchorage during my first three years, and I learned that nature gives no slack to the unprepared, the indifferent, or the "intellectually challenged". We had some basic survival items in a minimum kit. Some of them are hard to get in the civilian sector, but substitute if you can. First Priority- Signalling devices. 1. A transciever/Cell phone is the best and easiest. If a cell phone is not along, look for a GENERAL PURPOSE RADIO like the motorola spirit. The "sport Radios" will work too, but have limited range. 2. A whistle, a good quality whistle can be clearly heard up to a mile over water and half a mile in obstructed land areas. It is however difficult to tell which direction a whistle blast is coming from. 3. a 2x3" survival mirror. These mirrors have a central aiming orifice, and can be made of thick safety glass or polished metal. Flashes are visable to an aircraft at altitude for up to 35 miles. The Mirror is the MOST EFFECTIVE signalling device in daylight. 4. "Pengun" flares -the military versions went up to 1400 feet, the civilian ones are limited to about 500 feet, burn about 15 seconds, and RED is the color to get. Have about 5-7 rounds TIED to the launcher. 5. Hand Held flare/ Smoke signal. These are available in restricted areas, and sometimes you have to settle for a railroad flare, or a hiway flare. The Orange smoke flares are difficult to buy. (replace flares every 24 months) 6. a Pocket Knife. A GOOD 4 inch blade that is sturdy is better than a thin 6 inch blade. I recommend the same knife used in military kits, the stainless steel folding knife, by Camillus. Your opinion on YOUR knife is just as valid. 7. 100 feet of Nylon 550 Cord. This is the famous parachute shroud line. This with your knife is two-thirds of what you need to have an "easy shelter". (Then there is the HARD way, looking for anything to use instead of making a good one.) 8. a 10x10 heavy plastic sheet, this is the third part of the shelter kit, Use it to gather water, use it to cover with brush to make a "lean-to", use it stay dry. (remember when making a lean-to or other shelter 4 inches of brush will insulate you from the wind, if properly laid, and four inches of "bedding" is needed to insulate the FLOOR. YOU NEED A VENT in your shelter for fresh air. 9 a large sheet of VERY heavy aluminum foil. This is your cookware. wrap game in it, form a cup out of it, and use it to signal if you have to. 10. First aid kit. a good "auto" first aid kit is a good starting point. 11. A fire starter kit. water proof matches only go so far. I would also add: A butane lighter. and a Magnesium Fire starter Bar with spark insert. (These are about $6 at walmart, Coghlin makes them.) Dont forget- tinder, kindling, small twigs, bigger twigs is the way to start a fire. PRACTICE making a fire with this. 12. a Lensatic mapping compass, AND a TOPO map if you have one for the local area. Learn how to ORIENT a map and Compass, and how to bear landmarks. This basic skill is YOUR GPS back-up plan. 13. a canteen, with a carry strap. Things I would add? 1. An exacto knife with spare blades. 2. Pain relievers, prescription medications 3. BLISTER pads, and a pair of dry ORLON socks. 4 Extra Alcohol wipes, A Bee Sting Kit 5. Travellers Toilet paper. 6. a piece of MOLESKIN (For smoothing friction points in shoes) 7. Spare glasses. 8. a HAT. 9. water purification tablets (Iodine) Survival doesn't happen to the unprepared, and MENTAL preparation is the most important thing, ALWAYS PLAN AN "OUT", ALWAYS CONSIDER "WHAT IF". Have a good back up. a scheduled meet back point, and a contact for all parties to check in with if separated. IF LOST: If you are disoriented, and need to work toward civilization, a general rule ( not absolute) is to follow the water, somewhere downstream is civilization, or a path that will get you out. Generally lower is warmer, more sheltered and more populated with game. KNOW the area before trekking. Make frequent orientations on your map and do not depend on the GPS as a only navigator. Jeff Scism, IBSSG [url=http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/]http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/[/url [This message was edited by Flockmaster on June 10, 2003 at 09:59 PM.]

A GPSr, a Jeep and a wilderness cache are a dangerous combination, don't cache and drive, Buckle up for safety, and ONLY YOU can prevent forest fires. Pack out MORE than you packed in, take your tracks with you. Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

Yep The Hot Dogs will be $5, the happy family will have paid $125 to get in, and the parking will have valet services. Unfortunately, like our National parks there will be someone who will find a way to use Geocaching to make a profit for themselves, without regard to what it does to the activity. All it takes is a mention on Howard Stern, and soon all the caches will be appearing in the nude for his show. Jerry Springer will be hawking the "Her husband stole my cache" segments, and cacher trash will be lining up to get their five minutes in "Too hot for the Geocache" videos. Meanwhile corporate sponsorships will abound, there will be the Goodyear Tire and Rubber geocache, The Pirelli Geocache, and the Crackerjacks Geocache. Martha Stewart and Tim Allen will be name branding Caching supplies and containers, and the electronics department at K-Mart will have a Blue light cache. Victoria's Secret Cache will be the main draw at the Mall. The grocery outlet stores will fight over trademarking the term "Cache and carry", while the Video/CD marketeers will be quick to call the Cd-wallets "CD-Caches". The hottest hand held games will be the Geocache interactive series, where Laura Croft, Mario and Luigi compete for the most finds and the most travel Bugs. Meanwhile Donkey Kong throws empty caches at them. The internet will abound with cache Cheat sheets, and the population will jump right in with Urban Caching, sponsored by Big Brothers, the Salvation Army, and the Celebrity Hollywood cachers. Homeless entreprenuers will be at street corners and on-ramps with signs that say "Will geocache for food", or signs that say, "Geocacher, I need AAs". Think about it, soon Geocaching can be the new past-time, bypassing the MLB, NBA, NFL, and even WWF. Pro-wrestling will have to work hard to keep their audience share. Especially when the new reality shows debut: "Who wants to be a Geocacher?" and "Surviving Cache Island". Soon when the commercial producers get involved you can say, "Hey I picked up a Travel Bug, and moved it" and the reply will be, "did you get filmed for Candid Cacher?" Now back to my TV, "Real Caching" is coming on... Right after the special COPS episode on Geocaching at high speed...Guest is John Walsh, he is looking for "America's most wanted cache". Bag Boyz, Bag Boyz, watcha gonna do when they cache from you... Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Kee [This message was edited by Flockmaster on June 09, 2003 at 09:28 PM.] [This message was edited by Flockmaster on June 09, 2003 at 09:30 PM.]

Flash- You in Rialto? I am near Foothill and Meridian. Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

Perhaps I will TRADE-up my powered up but non-satellite locking Magellan 300. (Good ol # 0000415, so early it's late). By the way Wal*Mart tells me this afternoon that GPSrs were low sellers and they are no longer carrying them. The "Great Prices" were a close out. Still looking for a working GPSr so I can place and find....(at a VERY reasonable price) Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen

The three or more signals recieved from the GPS system Satellites are computed on the bearing and the signal strength. The satellites are in a known position, ("Fixed" in the equation, although they are moving) The distance from the origin point is calculated. on EACH satellite in range. YOUR point should be where the spheres of "signal" intercept in space. There can only be one legitimate interception point if the math is right. If a signal is lost, it is deleted from the equation. The more signals the closer the accuracy should be. There s a "fudge factor" built into the math to allow near matches in position to be "averaged" which makes the whole thing work. if the positions do not converge mathmatically, becuse of some unlknown factor, the unit would not display a result until they did, but if within a set percentage or distance all results came out the display is designed to select the tightest group, and average it Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen

In theory you are bringing something to pass to the next guy, who is bringing something... In practice, it is an honor system, and you are depending on the "ethics" of those who follow to keep the process alive. The Game is the quest. The Quest is the reward. The reward is why you do it. I am building a cache or two, am keeping to a budget, and I am looking to place things that I think are "Neat" no matter the retail cost. Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

My GPS 300 tells me I a ALWAYS in Springer Lake, California. The display STAYS on 119.00.03 and 37.00.00. Nothing ever changes, it all stays the same, only the visual ranges, vary in the game. If I could get the thing to work, I would PLACE the caches I have ready... Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

Back in the late 1970s, when I lived in Alaska (Yep I am a Chilkoot), I had a four ounce jar of crude oil from the first Tanker load shipped through the Alaskan Pipeline. Although it was in a glass jar, and because of that NOT Cache ready, I feel it would have made an interesting traveller. Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen

Now to stop people from recycling the cache.... Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

I have some Pepsi can lids.... Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen?

How about a cement block Cache? This is a REALLY BIG Geocache. Jeff Scism, IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Is it more important to know what you are talking about, or more important to talk about what you know? the seeking is in the knowing and not where you've been Travelling is the going isn't learning Keen? [This message was edited by Flockmaster on June 05, 2003 at 09:21 AM. [This message was edited by Flockmaster on June 05, 2003 at 09:21 AM.]