casey97

good job Chad.

I wanted to put a picture up with the transformers, but in looking at the pictures from the movie, it just looses something on the small screen. Some how the graphics look less cool on the computer screen, they are almost cheezy:

Man I am itching to find that cache. I can't get the log out of this micro. Who uses a vial to hide a cache?

YEA. Definitely .. Definitely .. GPS definitely shows the cache over there.

What?

"What's in the box?" Movie: Se7en Actor: Brad Pitt as Sgt. David Mills,

Man! Someone broke a glow stick in this cache.

The ( B ) has been automatically changed in the above for a sunglasses smile, for some reason.

Did not want to be accussed of deleting the portion of the law which says it is ok for minors to gamble so here is the entire statute: RS 14§92. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles A. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles is the intentional enticing, aiding, soliciting, or permitting, by anyone over the age of seventeen, of any child under the age of seventeen, and no exception shall be made for a child who may be emancipated by marriage or otherwise, to: (1) Beg, sing, sell any article or play any musical instrument in any public place for the purpose of receiving alms. (2) Associate with any vicious or disreputable persons, or frequent places where the same may be found. (3) Visit any place where beverages of either high or low alcoholic content are the principal commodity sold or given away. (4) Visit any place where any gambling device is found, or where gambling habitually occurs. (5) Habitually trespass where it is recognized he has no right to be. (6) Use any vile, obscene or indecent language. (7) Perform any sexually immoral act. (8) Absent himself or remain away, without authority of his parents or tutor, from his home or place of abode. (9) Violate any law of the state or ordinance of any parish or village, or town or city of the state. (10) Visit any place where sexually indecent and obscene material, of any nature, is offered for sale, displayed or exhibited. (11)(a) Become involved in the commission of a crime of violence as defined in R.S. 14:2( which is a felony or a violation of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law which is a felony. ( Become involved in the commission of any other felony not enumerated in Subparagraph (a) of this Paragraph. B. Lack of knowledge of the juvenile's age shall not be a defense. C. Whoever commits the crime of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both. D. Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Paragraph (7) of Subsection A of this Section shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than two years, or both. E.(1) Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Subparagraph (a) of Paragraph (11) of Subsection A of this Section shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than two years and for not more than ten years or imprisoned according to the sentence of imprisonment for the underlying felony, whichever is less. (2) Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Subparagraph ( of Paragraph (11) of Subsection A of this Section shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than two years, or both. Amended by Acts 1962, No. 394, §1; Acts 1966, No. 481, §1; Acts 1966, No. 532, §1; Acts 1968, No. 486, §1; Acts 1968, No. 647, §1; Acts 1976, No. 121, §§1, 2; Acts 1993, No. 526, §1; Acts 1994, 3rd Ex. Sess., No. 74, §1; Acts 1995, No. 1290, §1.

If your state allows those less than 21 years of age to gamble then I guess placing scratch-offs in caches would be ok. Just like if your state allowed underage drinking, then the placing of a half-pint of gin would be ok as well. To me it does not even sound right to say you can own something which is illegal to buy or sell. However, unless I see law stating, as you so eloquently put it, "It's not illegal for a baby to OWN a lottery ticket." I would suggest a cache owner not engage in behavior which may (and probably does) have criminal implications in all states, except the state of denial. It would be difficult to find any law or legislation to say, "well you can’t buy it, but you can own it." Come election time, I would like to see a legislator defend his decision to make permissible baby gambling, or 12-year-old cacher gambling. I can see being pulled in front of Judge John (gambling is bad) Dough, and explaining the reason his 12-year-old grandson received a scratch off, is because you thought it was ok because you read it in a cache forum. Getting bad free legal advise from a forum is worth what you paid for it. Use common sense, if it is illegal to sell a product to a minor, and there is a criminal sanction against selling to a minor, then it logically follows it is also illegal to give it to a minor. You can't sell it to a minor, but you can give it to them!!! By your logic it would be permissible for a retailer to sell a 5-year-old a nickel piece of candy for $2.00 and then give them a $1.00 scratch-off to go with it. I would like to see the retailer attempt this, giving scratch-offs away to minors. If I am wrong the only thing you did was leave a $5 bill instead of 5 scratch-offs. If the scratch-off lobby is wrong, then you could go to jail. Is it worth it? My state refers to the "Sale, Purchase and POSSESSION" of contraband by minors. I am hard pressed to understand how your hypothetical baby can own a ticket without possession of the ticket. Saying it is ok to OWN something, but you can not buy or cash it in is not only false, but illogical. The express purpose of a scratch off is to cash in huge winnings you get from every ticket. The child has no ownership, if the child is unable to control the ticket. If a child cacher, caches by themselves, and their parent does not condone gambling, then you have interfered with parental rights. You have allowed and aided the child of another person to break the law. By your same logic why not leave porn DVD’s in caches. It may be illegal for minors to buy, or for retailers to sell it to minors, but it is ok for them to OWN? A nice expensive cigar for the FTF on this cache, well it is ok to OWN if you are a minor, but you are not allowed to purchase, or be sold a lighter, or tobacco. By allowing a minor to engage in criminal activity, you have opened yourself to be prosecuted (at least in Louisiana) for "Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles" Louisiana RS 14§92. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles A. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles is the intentional enticing, AIDING, soliciting, or PERMITTING, by anyone over the age of seventeen, of any child under the age of seventeen, and no exception shall be made for a child who may be emancipated by marriage or otherwise, to: ... (9) Violate ANY law of the state or ordinance of any parish or village, or town or city of the state. ... B. Lack of knowledge of the juvenile's age shall not be a defense. (this would take care of the I did not know the FTF would be 11-years-old) C. Whoever commits the crime of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both. D. Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Paragraph (7) of Subsection A of this Section shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than two years, or both. E. Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Subparagraph (a) of Paragraph (11) of Subsection A of this Section shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than two years and for not more than ten years or imprisoned according to the sentence of imprisonment for the underlying felony, whichever is less.

Some cachers start going on their own as soon as there parents let them. On a four-wheeler or in a car as soon as they have a license. A 16-year-old with a drivers license and a GPS is a far cry from a 21-year-old. The concern was not for who gets the winnings, but over the legality of placing an age restricted item in a cache. I wouldn’t want to face contributing to the delinquency of a minor charges, just for placing a "cool" FTF prize. It wouldn't look good for a family friendly sport/hobby to be labeled as doing something illegal. While some people may enjoy finding lotto tickets in a cache; this does not mean we should engage in illegality for those eager scratchers (don’t we get enough scratching from poison ivy?). Many people would enjoy a bootleg DVD movie, hacked topo programs, or even copies of the latest delorme or streets and trips, but we do not put those in caches.

Like most hobbies it will be there when you need to get you mind off of things. This is a time to be with your family and comfort them, as well as be comforted by them.

ewww, but that will lead to our newest hobby. GEOPOOPING. You can post the coordinates of everywhere you...well nevermind, lets not go down that road. Always make sure you use the TPD and not the cheese grater.

I have only placed 1 cache, but I put a $5 gift card to Sonic in it. For the scratch offs, are these caches for 21-year-olds only? What is the legality of this? I know the average cacher is (well) above 21, but what about geomuggles, young cachers, etc.?

The 85 represents the number of holes in the integrated cheese grater. For a few extra dollars you can upgrade to the GPSMap85SSSCO. The CO stands for the optional can opener, a much needed upgrade for the camping enthusiasts. Finally the top of the line upgrade is the GPSMap85SSSCOTPD. The TPD has a clever functionality, where a spike can be deployed from the body of the unit. Thus allowing the unit to be stuck into the bark of a tree to receive the needed solar energy to charge the unit’s batteries. Once stuck into a tree the TPD functionality comes into play. A roll of toilet paper can be hung over the unit making it a handy Toilet Paper Dispenser.

The easiest way to download direct from GC.com is to sell your Magellan on e-bay, and buy a Garmin, since the download to GPS tool only works for Garmin at this time.

In case you did not get manuals for them here it is: http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/967_OwnersManual.pdf and here is the quick start guide: http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/968_QuickStartGuide.pdf I hope this helps.

The cachers in my area call this "sandbagging". It only hurts the first to find racers out there. I recently expected to be second or third on two caches, and without rushing to hit them I was first to find on both. These were my first 2 FTFs. I logged them and there appears to be no interest in our FTF racers now. I guess all the hype about FTFs is seeing the cache just how the hider wanted it to be seen.

This is beyond the pale as I find this to be tantamount to encouraging theft. This is telling WIRED readers to steal someone else’s property, which they spent time and effort in creating the cache, selecting a place to hide the cache, just for the enjoyment of other fellow hobbyists. I think some people may try to do this very thing, but end up being cachers instead of pirates. I believe once someone goes through the trouble of researching the cache, searching for the area and looking for the cache to steal, they will begin to see the draw this hobby has on people. Rather than becoming thieves, would be geo-pirates could see the fun in the find, and would continue to Geocache for themselves.

Got a Venture Cx last Christmas, and it was great. I am trying to justify getting a Vista HCx to my wife, but it is hard. May just ask for money and then e-bay my Venture and pay the difference.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LU...39-1b72e5818e79 Here is a log of a cache I found, where a couple of young lovers were engaged in some heavy petting, until I creeped them out and they left so I could log the find. This was the same park 1/2 way between my girlfriend’s college (now my wife) and where I was, and we used to meet there to talk.

Thanks, I will use metro gold, now to e-bay to find V7.

Run-around Sue

A while back I saw a thread, on how to get turn by turn directions on my GPS (newer color mapping Garmin with a 1 gig card) using older cheaper map programs from e-bay. Does anyone have a link to this thread, or know what software I would have to use, so I could buy older maps and use them for turn by turn direction on my GPS? Has anyone tried this, how poorly does it compare to using the newest Garmin maps?

Yes. Ordered three, 1 for Venture Cx, 1 for Fuji Finepix and 1 for my wife's Canon EOS 40D (yes it is as awesome as she thought). The shield works great and after it settles there are no bubles or dots.