GOF and Bacall

If we can get past all the useless animosity and digital posturing you'll have your answer. The requirements are different with each entity. Your best bet is to ask fellow cachers in your local area. If you have a specific location in mind you can ask your reviewer if he/she has any information for that location.

If I find a spoiler at the cache site that the owner didn't mention on the cache page you can bet it won't be there when I leave.

Thank you for clearing that up for me. Where do I send the pigs ears and beggin' strips?

It was my understanding that the reviewers "currency" of choice was chocolate.

Don't feel you need to find a bunch before you hide, but don't feel required to hide any just because you are having fun finding. Take your time. Find just the right spot. Pick a container appropriate for the location. Cammo as needed but remember that it will need to hold up to being repeatedly handled. I've seen some nice looking caches that just couldn't take the wear and tare of use. Hide what you like to find and someone will enjoy finding it. So think about it. What are the caches you enjoyed finding the most? Those are good places to start. Use them as a springboard to building your own fabulous cache. Not necessary to copy them, but think about the qualities they have that contributed to your enjoyment. The most important thing is to remember to have fun!

Even if it has been done that is no reason not to bring to your area.

No, I don't. I like a good walk in the woods and finding a regular. Heck no! Give me that ammo box under a pile of sticks after a 1/2 mile 2-3 star terrain hike. Woohoo! Dang straight! ...but I can't tell if you're making fun of me. I know him. He ain't making fun of you. That's just the way he feels.

You could purchase a TB tag, engrave the number on the coin and then destroy the tag.

I can't help with the map but wanted to congratulate you on your marriage. My you enjoy many years together.

You have an optimistic outlook. What stops is the admission in the logs.

Take a deep breath and sigh. Feel better? Hope so. Now, yes, lots of people ejoy going from p&g to p&g pumping up their numbers. There isn't anything wrong with that. Let them have their fun. Others are into the log hike in scenic places. They enjoy the journey but have no interest in examining every stone in a big pile to find the one with a GC.com logo on it. They detest the needle in the haystack hide. That's fine to. Others are into puzzles. They enjoy spending hours solving obscure ciphers, riddles and such. Point is that each person finds his own way of having fun with this hobby. Phone a friends are only doing it to themselves. Not going to say it is good or bad but it doesn't stop those looking for the challenge from finding it the hard way. These people are more into a social aspect of the game. They want to connect with others. Still just a matter of each finding fun in their own way. If you are having trouble with people putting out signs like arrows on rocks and such I'll agree, that is an annoyance. It cheats others of the chance at doing it the hard way if they chose. It's this kind of thing that makes it necessary to do maintenance runs even when you haven't gotten reports. I have no idea why people would do that kind of crap. Then we have the whole "tore up the area" thing. You need to take human nature into account when you hide a cache. Some places can take the abuse without a problem. Less tolerant environments cant. Fragile echo systems that can't should be left alone. That said there are many places in between. The cache needs to be appropriate to the location. Some times we hiders need to show a bit of restraint when we make a hide. I find it useful to avoid the needle in the haystack type hide, but that is me. If you like this kind of thing just be certain that the area can handle it. It boils down to two simple sentences. Hide what you enjoy and someone will enjoy finding it. And you can't please everyone. Happy Caching.

I've used a bunch of 'em and only ever had one fail. It got wet inside and wrecked the contents. I suspect a finder had repacked it poorly and had something in the seal. I just tossed it and used a new one. Never tested it. My two oldest ones are still in place. Been there for just over three years.

Haven't had that trouble and I've had LnLs out in the "wild" for some time now. What breakage issues are you having? the "hinge"?

Saw these in the grocery store yesterday. Link thingy Anyone tried them yet? My first thought was that the hard polycarbonate container may be easier to crack that the more flexible traditional Lock-N-Locks.

It is considered wrong to leave things in a cache that are not "family friendly". So the question is what is the threshold at which a movie becomes something less than family friendly. I'd say that a rating of G is the only one that is acceptable for all family members by those who rate movies. R and up are meant for adults and should not be left in a cache any more than adult magazines or adult toys. That leaves NC17 and PG13. NC17 is designated for young adults and should, in my opinion, not be left in caches. PG13? These are meant for tweens and teens and I see no problem with them. It does matter what movies you leave. Kids do find caches without adult supervision all the time. Most kids would not think twice before grabbing the R rated movie from a cache if for no other reason than because they aren't supposed to see it. Keep it family friendly.

This is the worst running forum I frequent. I have never double posted any place else.

Until recently We had only come across this in a semi rural area. It was on a large property and we got to meet the owner. I thought it was cool and considered doing the same. Recently we came across a few of these. Urban neighborhoods, not obvious containers. We chose not to get out of the car. I'm not much keen on hides that require a high level of stealth. I just don't find it fun when I feel like the neighbors are sitting on the porch watching, just waiting for a reason to look up the number to 911. Decided against doing a front yard cache.

Awwwwww. you beat me to the smart as* answer. When I saw the title I started laughing Yeah, the wife tells me I'm quick.

So Flask, tell us how you really feel about it.

Try this place for a bison. Not sure what colors they come in but even a small one won't be hard to spot.

Congratulations on stretching this out to a fifth page!

A well stated and respectable position. I applaud your restraint in adversity. One question though. Did you get a new box of letters for Christmas. Yer gona use 'em all up by tax day at this rate. Just funnin' with ya.

Intentionally?

The guidelines do not say that any cache will be grandfathered, only likely to be. I thought the question was answered when a reviewer confirmed my belief that a cache lost its grandfathered status when it was archived and needed to meet any current guidelines or restrictions. You would be correct.