Proud Soccer Mom
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So tell me, if everything has rules, what are the rules for frolicking?
Frolicking is an underground phenomena to express happiness in a physically exuberant manner. It is properly done by extending the arms outward, picking up the legs and skipping in a forward motion whilst smiling. Frolicking can be done anywhere by anyone who is genuinely happy and wishes to exuberantly express their happiness in a physical way.
Here is a video that explains the specific technique in Library Frolicking.
Special footwear can be crafted for better frolicking.
Controversially, frolicking can be combined with other activities, such as delighting in food & wine. See a blog about a daring individual who does just this: Frolicking Foodie.
But beware! Frolicking isn't approved by everyone and can be considered very taboo if done in different ways of undress. Princess Eugenie was reprimanded for frolicking naked on her college campus.
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its not that i dont know. its taht i dnot feel lkie tnkieag the tmie to do it. so sotp wnhieig aoubt the gmraemr bceuose i wlil nveer sotp.
and it dsnot mttear povren by tihs snetcene.
I'd love to reply to this, but I have no idea what it says. Could someone translate this to English please?
*pushes up sleeves* Make way! I can do this. I have a LIVEJOURNAL.
"It's not that I don't know [how to properly write]. It's that I do not feel like taking the time to do it. Stop whining about grammar because I will never stop [writing improperly]. Writing this statement should prove my point."
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You could consider placing a "coupon" for the FTF'er to use to collect the prize. That way you're not violating any cache content rules, and you can verify that the person is of legal age to receive such a prize.
I second this.
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How about this: No GPS, No Motor, No Map, No Notes.
All of my finds under this profile have been found without a GPS, without a motor(bicycle, pedestrian), I've never printed a cache page but sometimes I'll write down the street coordinates and the whether it's in the NW, NE, SE or SW section of the property.
How's about blindfolded?
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My DNF log on a 1/1.5 urban micro stands all by itself among 240 logs that all say something along the lines of "quick, easy find." As an experienced cacher using a Garmin 60CSX, I blamed my failure on hunting at night by flashlight.
So along comes a log that reads something like this:
"Our first hunt! We used our iPhone. We forgot to bring our flashlight but had no trouble locating the cache in the dark."
Well, some could say the iPhone screen is unnaturally bright... *cough*
There's a caching couple in my area who hides very clever caches and my husband and I have DNF'd on most of them. I haven't gone anywhere near their puzzle caches. One of their caches was so clever that another cacher hid a second one so they could log the find.
When someone says, "Saw it while we were walking up." I want to call shenanigans! Don't act like these are easy. These are not easy for anybody. If you see it walking up, it's out of place! 
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Maybe the finder should be required leave something behind, nothing big, just maybe sign a logbook or something. Then the cache owner could verify the find.
That's brilliant! Why haven't we been doing that...
Oh wait...
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I still think Geocaching is not for everybody.
PS about the forums. In the ice cream forum everyone loves ice cream. There are of course the flame wars over butter pecan vs. rocky road or whether you should eat the largest dish that you can even though all you want is a cone. One day someone post that she and her husband wanted to to try some ice cream. But she didn't do her homework and read the descriptions before starting out. Sometimes the ice cream was frozen so hard they couldn't get a scoop out and other times the ice cream had melted and was liquid. And the flavor wasn't to their liking. So they decided ice cream wasn't for them and went to get cake. The people on the ice cream forum said she was a troll.
Where are the ice cream forums????
I sympathise with the OP. One time I got a papercut and almost gave up on reading. How can I enjoy classic fiction when I'm nursing wounds? I bet this is why geocachers prefer being paperless.
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How I play the game:
I would not log a find if I didn't sign the log. If I have to do cache repair to be able to sign, that's part of the game. If I have to walk all the way back to the car to get the pen I forgot ... well, that's unfortunately part of my absent-mindedness. Cache with a buddy, y'all, they might remember a pen!
How I expect others to play the game:
I have deleted one log for not signing the logbook. They were a real jerk, claiming the log was soaked and I was a neglecting cache owners (and blah blah blah). I went to the cache to verify his find and, sure enough, dry logbook had no jerky name. So I deleted his log with extreme prejudice (meaning I grinned with satisfaction while I did it). If somebody says, "I forgot a pen" I've let their find stay and not thought any more about it. If something ever leaves me in doubt, I could just email them and they can answer questions about the cache. No big deal.
I would delete faux find logs like this because that's a Note, not a Find. Thankfully, it's not my cache hide so it's not my jurisdiction.
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I am not a LEO. I am someone who's known a lot of LEOs of all shapes and sizes and have run into them while caching.
Smile, make eye contact, speak clearly, be friendly, keep a comfortable physical distance (unless the LEO shortens this distance). Let them control the situation. Be cooperative, upfront, and honest.
If you have a weapon on your person, make the announcement that you're laying it on the ground and stepping away from it. Follow the LEO's instructions because they're going to treat you discriminately and take over the situation at that point. Having this uphill climb is better than them getting visual confirmation of the gun while you're talking and not knowing if there's a motivation behind you not mentioning it.
Some LEOs will be nice, others will not be. They're kinda like people that way. But it's part of the job to be suspicious and not take everybody at their word. This is why it's important to remain calm, friendly and honest. Receive their questions and skepticism (and sarcasm) with understanding and patience.
With all that said, I HATE the questions, "Do you know why I'm here?" and "Do you know why I pulled you over?" There's no actual answer for this! The last time I was asked that was a Kentucky State Trooper. I said, "Because you thought I was pretty?" He smiled and said, "You were going so much over the speed limit I couldn't tell." I couldn't talk myself out of that ticket but I got the speed violation knocked down. So LEOs, stop asking those leading questions!
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I don't have to beef up.
Picture this, 6' tall + 6" platform combat boots with spikes, Black vinyl trench coat and loin cloth.
Never mind the fact that I'm only 195 lbs, who in their right mind would approach?
People mistaking you for Rob Halford?
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The major complaints seem to be:
1. Socialisation. So, hey, CO's won't force themselves on you. Come ring the doorbell if you want to talk. We got things to do, too. Most CO's are probably out caching anyway.
2. Voyeurism. Let's not get carried away here. In my yard, I won't even know you're there unless you make a lot of noise after you have the cache. All your hunting will be unknown to me unless you come ring the doorbell and tell me.
3. Wrong Yard. This is easily fixed by a CO placing a geocaching sticker on their mailbox or other easily visible, identifiable part of the property that can assure cachers that they're in the right place. Nobody's going to shoot you in my neighbourhood, but you'll know from the cache page that you just need to see the GC sticker and you're good to go. This would even calm people who are imagining fencing somewhere on the property that the cache would be behind.
The benefits seems to be:
1. Openness. CO's are able to create hides on a scale that would be impossible on public property outside their control. This creates interesting and unique hides that aren't easily duplicated.
2. Security & QA. These are less likely to be muggled from being on private property and being under the conveniently consistent care of the CO. Every time I walk the dog, I can visibly confirm the cache is where it needs to be.
3. Fun to meet cachers. Each finder is a potential meet & greet that continues to expand the community and make the game more fun.
4. Perfect for children. This provides a cache for children to check the swag trades and logbook on an at-will basis to encourage their participation and interest in the game... without even leaving the backyard. Kids who help manage caches know the swag trading value and aren't quick to toss Happy Meal toys into someone else's cache or eager to take swag without having something to put in. They also understand moving TBs in tact. There's hope for the next generation, y'all.
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I stay away from them unless it is obvious where the cache is. In Florida we have a "stand your ground law", which basically gives people the right to shoot anyone they feel is a threat to them, which would include a tresspasser snooping around your house. I've been known to type in a wrong number on my GPS, which could have very bad consequences.
WOAH!
That's a seriously twisted interpretation of the law!
The Florida law is a self-defense, self-protection law. It has four key components:
* It establishes that law-abiding residents and visitors may legally presume the threat of bodily harm or death from anyone who breaks into a residence or occupied vehicle and may use defensive force, including deadly force, against the intruder.
* In any other place where a person “has a right to be,” that person has “no duty to retreat” if attacked and may “meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.”
* In either case, a person using any force permitted by the law is immune from criminal prosecution or civil action and cannot be arrested unless a law enforcement agency determines there is probable cause that the force used was unlawful.
* If a civil action is brought and the court finds the defendant to be immune based on the parameters of the law, the defendant will be awarded all costs of defense.
To download Florida’s new law in its four-page entirety, click here (.pdf).
The Florida law is not a gun law. Period. It contains zero references to guns or shooting, unless you feel propagandistically compelled to count one of those ubiquitous legislative “Whereases” that references the Florida Constitution’s “right of the people to bear arms…”
Critics such as the Violence Policy Center and the Brady Campaign denounce "Stand-Your-Ground" clauses as "Shoot First" laws (as in "shoot first, ask questions later"), asserting that the presumptions and other protections afforded to gun owners allow them virtual carte blanche to shoot anyone who is perceived to be trespassing. They also state it will lead to cases of mistaken identity, so-called "shooting the milkman" scenarios. Proponents like the National Rifle Association state that such scenarios are unlikely and are not protected under most Castle laws; the shooter is only justified if the assailant broke into the home or attempted to commit some other property crime such as arson, and simple trespass is neither.
For a fuller explanation and how it applies to other states see Castle Doctrine on Wikipedia.
Geocachers have no reason to fear this law.
You are Totally Wrong!
You are correct about the intent of the law, but the way the law has in fact been interpreted gives very broad leeway in terms of " if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.” There was a case a year or so ago in North Fort Myers, where someone shot and killed an unarmed neighbor who was just on their property (near the boundary) who was performing pranks and no charges were filed because of the law. A state legislator made the comment that not filing charges was consistent with how the law was written, but it was not the intent of the law as he voted for it.
If someone is snooping in my backyard, I could very easily make the case that I reasonably believe that my life or that of my family is danger and that use of deadly force was justified. I'm not saying this as anti-gun person (which I am not) nor am I saying that I believe the law is bad (I actually support it). Heck, if I caught someone snooping near kids bedroom window, I will assume he is a sexual predator and will act accordingly. There would be enough reasonable doubt that no charges would ever be filed, particularly if the person in question is dead.
So yes, one does put ones life at risk if you are caught snooping near someone's home under the stand your ground law, which is why I would not do so just to bag another smiley.
Should I mention that a Cape Coral cop told me that if you're in that kind of situation to make sure to pump five shots into someone instead of just one because it'll be easier to believe that you were in a fearful state of mind?
Thank God I don't own a gun.
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I am horrible with puzzles and I properly hide my shame.
There ought to be some kinda Cachers Puzzle Solver/Code Breaker apprenticeship program.
I tend to agree. There should be a CHEATERS section of the forum or perhaps a separate website for people who need to look up an answer like using the solutions in the back of a crossword book to fill in the grid. Just look at all the websites and books there are for cheating at video games. Someone could make a fortune selling answers to puzzle caches.
That'd be harsh if it were remotely creative. There's no need to be cheeky with me since I was actually tossing that out earnestly. I said apprenticeship. So experienced puzzle solvers can teach inexperienced puzzle solvers ways to solve puzzles on their own. I'm at a very beginner level. I can solve a cryptogram and anagram and anything that's very basic (like a font change to WingDings). I'm bewildered by most of the puzzle caches in my area.
If an experienced puzzle solver in my area set up an Event as a Workshop, I'd be there.
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Well, to be fair, I don't think KBI sounded "high and mighty". I think it was just a post about something that was annoying... and the fact that it happened again and just won't stop happening... well, I'm sure that becomes its own annoyance. There's nothing wrong with a reminder to eager and helpful cache owners that we ought to maybe back-off a little with the helpfulness.
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I've never encountered one that was in a front yard but I looked briefly for one that was on the sidewalk in front of the yard. I didn't stay very long.... I'm not fond of being a goldfish in a bowl while being scrutinized by the cache owners while they get their voyeuristic jollies.
You'd have to do a lot more than look for a cache for me to get my voyeuristic jollies. Wearing firefighter bunker gear would be a nice start, though.
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I stay away from them unless it is obvious where the cache is. In Florida we have a "stand your ground law", which basically gives people the right to shoot anyone they feel is a threat to them, which would include a tresspasser snooping around your house. I've been known to type in a wrong number on my GPS, which could have very bad consequences.
No kidding! I didn't know we had that!
Interesting.
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Hello? Hello? What am I missing here? Isn't a puzzle cache all about solving the puzzle yourself, rather than running to the forums and asking folks for the answer? And yes, some puzzles and encryptions do have multiple possible solutions, where only one is the correct answer. That is all part of the puzzle, and that does not warrant asking other geocachers to solve the puzzle for you and to give you the answer.
I am horrible with puzzles and I properly hide my shame.
There ought to be some kinda Cachers Puzzle Solver/Code Breaker apprenticeship program.
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Maybe I read this wrong, but it seems you are upset that the geocacher asked you a question about your cache that you placed on your front porch.
OMG BIG TEXT
I had to do that.
Yes, you did read it wrong. It was a very amusing story, told in a very joking way.
You also missed where da usyoopers said:
I'm so glad they had the nerve to ring the bell I would have felt awful if they had just slunk away. We had a very nice visit and laugh with him and his wife
I'm always really glad when people do things that upset me...? And I'm always upset with nice visits and laughing with people...?
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A JAFO?
And my hopes are dashed again.
I was hoping to see something like...
TWO CACHERS ENTER, ONLY ONE SINGES THE LOG!
TWO CACHERS ENTER, ONLY ONE SINGES THE LOG!
TWO CACHERS ENTER, ONLY ONE SINGES THE LOG!
FIGHT!
Ouch! That's just plane mean.
I have been trying to figure out how to create a combative version of geocaching.
I think I have it figured out now but I have been looking for more ideas.
Two words: PAINTBALL EVENT
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At the end of the cylinder a cigarette had been placed and it had burnt all the way down to the filter.
They're doing it wrong.
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But is it a Cacher being ironic... or a Harry Potter fan with too much money?
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Of course, the obvious solution to save all those emails on my own server "at home" works. Only, for me, storing them on the Groundspeak site would be the "cleaner" solution, separating them physically from my other non-caching life ;-) and keeping them available right where I would want to retrieve them. Like ebay does - same procedure.
I do see the problems of storage possibly taking overhand, if it is true that some members use Groundspeak mail for any- and everything. On the other hand, why not offer the option to save mails on Groundspeak(like, as I mentioned before, is possible on eBay) for everyone to check or uncheck?
Gmail offers plenty of space and sorting options. It's often got nifty search capabilities.
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I'm glad you posted this thread. I had thought about doing a cache at my home.
I have pygmy goats and a few friendly hens, and had considered a cache for children that included some small bags of chicken and/or goat feed, so the little folks could feed and pet the animals while Mom and Dad signed the log book.
Thanks for giving me a new perspective on it.
hey, just 'coz i don't like to have to make chitchat with cachers doesn't mean a LOT of people with kids wouldn't LOVE your petting zoo.
i confess i HAVE been to one or two caches at people's houses that are really outstanding.
this one comes to mind.
I agree with flask here. Don't be discouraged against hiding home caches, especially if you're making a special arrangement that a demographic (that I happen to fit in with my FOUR kids) would enjoy. It's not like the people who don't like finding caches in cacher yards will dislike you or be destructive. They just won't find the cache is all. Since you'd want people who really enjoy this type of hide to find the cache (because they'd enjoy it the most) then this seems like a win/win situation.
And, hey, I think it's awesome that you're willing to do that. I wish we lived near you!
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Hi, I'm new to the forum and did try to find out whether or not this feature has already been discussed. I couldn't find anything of the sort, so here's my request: I'd like to have my sent emails saved on my gc.com page so I can retreive them in the quick view-section. I tend to think that I don't need certain emails anymore so I don't ask for a copy of my mail to be sent to my own email-adress, but every now and then I do regret this descision...
I copy myself for everything. You can decide if you don't want it later on from your email. I think that's why the system offers you the option of sending yourself a copy. Since a number of people use the system's messaging feature for everything from serious matters to casual jokes (and 1000x this on the Waymarking site), it might not be prudent or efficient to save every message and have it available for players.
When someone says, "Saw it while we were walking up." I want to call shenanigans! Don't act like these are easy. These are not easy for anybody. If you see it walking up, it's out of place! 
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