Proud Soccer Mom
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In the guidelines it says "CITO Events are set up and sponsored by geocachers – not by other organizations." However, if it is organized by leaders and parents that are geocahers. The scout pack could attend the event but not host the event in their name. I guess it all depends on how it's worded on the cache page whether it's approved or not.
I'm a cubmaster and an advisor for a geocaching themed Venturing crew. The crew hosted a CITO this spring. It was the youth members that did all the organizing for the event. I guess we didn't have a problem getting it approved because the crew is a "geocaching club."
Thanks!!!
- HauntHunters
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I like Waymarking...
Us, too!
- HauntHunters
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I'm judging the cache and the experience offered, not what one gets out of it.
Weren't you a so-called "Defender of Crap" in a previous thread that demanded "Geocaching Standards" be raised?
- HauntHunters
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Hey, HauntHunters, I see you've joined the FGA - there's a loooooooong running thread there called (drum roll, please) GRIPES - (which has never been moderated, even when it wandered waay off topic into discussions of when the baby was due) try it, you'll like it.
I oughta go there and GRIPE some now.
I will if I ever have something to gripe about! Thanks! I was just trying to help out the Topics section on this forum.
After reading through a lot of posts on the FGA forum, I don't see where such a section would be necessary. Everybody knows how to behave themselves! I'll probably reproduce a couple of my questions there to get a more regional-specific answer in a calm environment.
- HauntHunters
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I was going to respond to your comment seriously, but this concerns me:
Yep. That's personal.
Why do you enjoy making an a** out of yourself? What do you get out of it? You don't bother me in the slightest and can pretty much type away with whatever you want to write because (like above) it never seems to mean anything, but amounting from everything I've read on these forums from you to people, I have absolutely no respect for you. Does acting this way fulfill something for you? Why do you strive to humiliate yourself over and over again?
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From doing the research, both the Cub Scouts and CITO are amiable to co-organizing for clean-up events. My son's Pack does an annual clean-up of the school (with landscaping tasks) they meet at and most of the boys go to. Would this be appropriate to double as CITO event? A lot of the material donations (for bags + supplies) are already secured by the Pack.
Does anyone else have experience with organizing these combined events, especially in a way that can bring awareness of one (geocaching) to the other (scouts)? Remember that these are the little ones, going as young as six years-old, so they have minimal experience with hiking, camping, orienteering or geocaching, unless their parents do those things.
Thanks for any advice!
- HauntHunters
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People who want to rant can go somewhere else to do it.
Yep. Right now they go to the Topics forum.
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Can you provide a link to these other forums that it works for. I'd like to see an example because I've tried a google search and come up with nothing that looked like it was working like you said.
archinect.com
nationalcontractors.com
safeplaceforum.com
strategytalk.org
icpir.org via ezboards.
Those are the ones I know about. I hope that helps.
- HauntHunters
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Owners can and should delete logs of loggers who do not meet the requirements of the category. (It is actually called Archive log but it has same effect which is actually the same as what happens on geocaching.)
I didn't realize that. Cool! Thanks!
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If anyone is making it personal, it's you, HH by the comments you make. Don't get on someone's case for responding to any strong comments that you may make.
Nah, what I said about the allergies and the earth imploding was tongue-in-cheek. Right now I just see mountains from molehills and I'm taking them with a grain of salt.
And I don't think that this topic can or should be more important to anyone else but the topic owner. Why else did you start it?
To help! Hahaha! No good deed goes unpunished!
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Since no one seems to agree with you, I guess we are all allergic to learning.
You keep making this personal. Why? My comment about people being "allergic to learning" came from your assertion that the existing members could not learn new/different forum rules. Apparently this topic is a great deal more important to you than it is to me.
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Isn't this not a rant about why we need a rant section??
How do you figure? What about my post seemed like a rant? How is it more of a rant than a suggestion for a forum improvement? Tell me. I'd like to know how my post even vaguely resembled a rant, especially since I have nothing to rant about and was posting in the consideration of other people I've seen post to the Topics section.
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+ Geoholic28 posts=SARCASIM Like I said before, we have to take the good with the bad. I do see where you are coming from and I do understand where your coming from with your suggestions
Thanks for that. I'm glad somebody gets it. Everyone's pretty convinced it won't work, the forum's too big, people are allergic to learning, it's a waste of resources and the earth will implode. It obviously won't happen. Your joke hit me a little off because I had taken special care to make sure my post didn't give the impression that my suggestion was for my personal benefit. I didn't want the thread digressing into "HauntHunters just wants a place to bitch and moan without people arguing with her" when I was posting based off of numerous posts that I've seen in the Topics section. But it's cool.
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Isn't this not a rant about why we need a rant section??
How do you figure? What about my post seemed like a rant? How is it more of a rant than a suggestion for a forum improvement? Tell me. I'd like to know how my post even vaguely resembled a rant, especially since I have nothing to rant about and was posting in the consideration of other people I've seen post to the Topics section.
- HauntHunters
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I just don't see the need for a whole forum dedicated to people saying "yeah, yeah, what he said" with no actual discussion beyond what is said in the first post of a topic. Tell me what I'm missing here.
Because when rants are treated like actual discussion posts, you get the "there are a million posts about this" and other arguments. When they're handled in the way that they're meant, there is no argument. "One side of the argument" isn't relevant because there is no argument, there are no "sides". We already know the logical and rational arguments against the rant, but that's not the point. The point is just for the OP to rant.
There may be one rant about why newbies suck. Then there's another about how number players are snobs. And none of it matters because they're not accomplishing anything, they're just ranting. It's just full of crap... instead of the Topics being full of "zomg!y 4 r we speek ov this agin" crap.
Moderating would be required, of course, however it doesn't take long for people to catch on to the purpose of the section. Deleted comments are a good way to remind people. Perhaps the current, more active members who enjoy arguing as much as possible will have trouble letting go of a section that doesn't allow that. The rest of the members and new members would not have problems with this format. In contrary to the beliefs expressed by the other people in this thread, this forum isn't a unique little snowflake. I'm a bit suspicious that some of them aren't familiar with other forums to know how others operate. This one is a bit of a free-for-all in all sections, where moderators 1. warn, 2. move, 3. close. My suggestion is meant to alleviate some of the aggravation without increasing the need for moderation. A moderator may have to be more heavy handed in the section, but it would eventually lessen the need for moderatoring these types of posts in the Topics section, where the actions have been warning and closing.
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My comments are not personal. Don't read a tone into them.
You stated:
If you want to fight, take it to email, PM's or create your own forum or personal blog.If you meant that in a general 'you' sense, fine, but you could specify that. Without any specification as to whether you meant a general 'you' or you meant me, I had to clarify the purpose and intentions of my post. As I said, it's been successful on other forums. I don't think geocachers are incapable of the same level of correspondence on forums as those set up for other hobbies.
In essence that is what the Geocaching Topics Forum is now anyway.It doesn't run the way a rants section would run. Rants on Geocaching Topics go as follows:
OP: I'm mad about ABC.
Comment: You shouldn't be mad about ABC because DEF and GHI.
Comment: If you don't like ABC, ignore ABC.
Comment: People who say they hate ABC really love ABC.
Comment: I'm going to talk about XYZ instead.
Comment: I'm going to comment to the person who said XYZ because I'd rather talk about that, too.
Comment: Don't we already have a million posts about ABC?!
Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
Rants forums go as follows:
OP: I'm mad about ABC.
Comment: Yeah, that sucks.
Comment: No doubt, especially when DEF and GHI.
Comment: I totally agree. I do XYZ to feel better afterwards.
Comment: This was my experience with ABC.
Repeat.
If you don't like the idea, you don't like it. I want to make sure you're not liking what I'm actually talking about.
Some people who post in the Geocaching Topics area don't read the forum guidelines.We did.
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Rants, Rages and Vents are hardly ever rational, well-researched or logically-based.
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Says you.
Edit: ok. I'll tone it down and be nice.
Hey! I laughed at your first version! I just didn't think "LOL" deserved a comment.
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What do y'all think?
No.
I would fight this with every fiber of my being.
I have enough to do keeping people civil in the Geocaching Topics forum. I would imagine that other moderators would agree with me on this line of thinking.
If you want to fight, take it to email, PM's or create your own forum or personal blog.
First, it would be avoiding a fight by directing posts that bring typical and predictable fights to a section where arguing (or rationalizing) with the OP is disallowed.
And finally, there's no need to get personal with me. I've got a blog, thanks. It's a suggestion since I've seen it work wonderfully on other forums, not some crying desire within me that needs fulfillment.
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Rants, Rages and Vents are hardly ever rational, well-researched or logically-based. They're typically emotional reactions to something. Some people are compelled to post a rant, rage or vent (however one wants to call it) to a large forum of people. In the Geocaching Topics section, these rants (even ones that are clearly labeled as rants) are greeted with a great deal of criticism. The OPs are usually aware that they're being unfair, emotional, short-sighted and that the topics have probably been brought up half a million times already when they're posting their rants, however they're posting them for the validation that something that makes them angry makes other people angry, too.
Would a section devoted to such posts be of use? If the identity of other cachers and specific geocache identifying were restricted, would the section be possible?
For example:
Unacceptable post: This newbie "username" plants "GCXXXX" and it sucks. Newbies shouldn't post caches!
Acceptable post: This newbie plants a cache in my area and it sucks. Newbies shouldn't post caches!
Such a post in Geocaching Topics would be open to criticism. (e.g. "Not all newbies post sucky caches", "I've seen an experienced cacher do a horrible hide." etc etc etc) In the ranting section, it would be understood that there is a rational and logical argument to whatever rant is being posted, but that the point is just for the OP to get some validation about something that's personally aggravating, for right or wrong.
What do y'all think?
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Emails are great. I don't hesistate to message people!
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Does anyone have any suggestions on what can be done at the Tiger Cub level?
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I can say with assurance that slashed zeros were used 38 years ago on military radio teletype machines to differentiate them from letter "O". Everything was in caps, no lower case what so ever. Typewriters used to copy morse code messages were made the same way, same reason. I'm betting on GC's bugs are using zeros to go with the base whatever numbering system (31 or so?) Likely no I, O, or a couple of other confusable letters.
hairball
Was this with the US Military, the english-speaking Militaries (like England), or was this global?
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It sounds like this problem might be solved by allowing cachers to search by the attributes. A cacher could search for all caches that are Disabled Accessible. Then the system has to make selecting attributes manditory instead of optional, since they become search options.
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I do know that if you want to be a Geocacher, you have to get a GPS. There's no way around that. I know that if you want to do Letterboxing, you have to get a stamp book, stamp and inkpad. You do absorb some expense for these hobbies, the least being fuel, water, and food. A lot of these waymarks, you want a camera with you, anyway, because they're beautiful, historical and/or significant.
yes. 'these' hobbies will benefit from a camera, but what about the rest of your life--you dont only (want to)take pics of your 'hobbies' do you?
and then, if you are not computer/camera savvy (in transferring/managing pics), you can always take the card to a photo shop and get them put on a cd. if cost i an issue, then you must look harder and limit the criteria you put in a choice. with the price of gas these days, you can get something that will suffice for the purpose of Waymarking for the price of a tank of gass (or less depending on what you drive).
Exactly! Many of us even had a GPS before we started these hobbies. A lot of us had stamps, stamp books and ink, too. It just depends on what else we do. I don't want to demean the financial struggles of anyone, but someone shouldn't log visits to places they've never been (whether or not they can or cannot get there) nor should someone log a visit without being able to meet the category requirements for that log. I think it really takes balls to do that.
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My personal username that I use everywhere else is ShesGotSushi. I think it's pretty self-explanatory. I love sushi. Next to Fish & Chips, sushi is my favourite food.
My husband's personal username is MrDrumsticks, because he's a drummer. It's not what he does for a living, but it's a big part of what he's about.
Our team username reflects that we're paranormal investigators.
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How do you use Waymarking.com?
in Getting Started with Waymarking (Read-Only)
Posted · Edited by HauntHunters
I'm as end-user as end-user gets with Waymarking. I enjoy Waymarking when I can do it, have no categories to manage, and just like exploring the site. This is my typical routine:
1. go to www.Waymarking.com.
2. submit any new waymarks for approval if applicable.
3. search for waymarks within my area (there's very little so it's easy to identify new ones just from this).
4. browse leisurely through waymarks for interesting categories that I might want to contribute to.
5. check up on friends' waymarks (in different states).
6. visit a blogger waymark if interested.
7. visit forum.
If one of my waymarks has been visited, I will typically look at the visit on the waymark page in addition to reading the email notification, then look at some of the waymarks that waymarker has visited. I will do that as step 2 before moving on to submission (if applicable) and the others.
That's just mine. I'm not sure what Mr. HH does.
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(edited because my spelling sucks)