JPreto
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As far as the incessant threads? Maybe JPreto (and I'm sorry to make any assumptions) is just compulsive about a thread sticking to a very narrow topic (no matter how related to another topic it may be).
No offense taken... and the assumptions are correct!
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I know people taht go with the hiders, when they are hidding, and claim the FTF.
I know people that don´t even go with the hider, just sign the logbook at home before placing, and they claim FTF.
I know people that have a stamp from other geocachers and stamp the logbook before placing, and they claim the FTF.
So... Put your own rules or guidelines in your profile so others know how do you geocache because the FTF game is not part of the Geocaching.com game!
I would say that all of those are examples of cache owners who think the FTF game is dumb and is basically taking their caches out of it.
I actually consider that COs have friends or relatives that like the FTF game and this is just a great chance to have yet another FTF!!!! We really think differently...
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Again, there's having an opinion, and there's incessantly starting threads about the same topic.
In the interest of sharing opinions, it is legitimate to wonder what, exactly, is so horrendously bothersome about strangers getting little pictures on their profiles that it warrants numerous, slightly different threads. We're not curing cancer here, people.
Maybe Groundspeak or some other website in granting souvenirs or badges on the number of threats openned or the number of posts!!!!
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WOW, only today I understood why in São Paulo suddenly apeared:
- 2 leterbox hybrid
- 2 Wherigo
- 2 CITO
Before August there was only 1 Wherigo and 1 Leterbox in whole Brazil... It´s all because of the souvenirs!!!! I don´t care about souvenirs so I didn´t even know the requirements of the souvernirs, never read them!!!!
Funny, how a souvenir can change things!!!!
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I guess I would wonder why others would feel the intense NEED to claim an FTF on something they didn't even find. Not even necessarily just an FTF...but any find at all.
Because they care about numbers more than they care about being called cheaters?
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So my "rules" on claiming FTF are my own and fairly loose...but to me that third example is just getting ridiculous. If I were in the group and I was actually the person who found it, I'd probably take issue with others trying to claim FTF...but I probably wouldn't really MAKE an issue of it. It's one thing to think a certain way about it...another thing entirely to get in a debate or argument about which one of you can put those three letters in their log. All this is to say that no, it does not really matter...but don't be surprised when you discover that it really DOES matter to some people.
I know people taht go with the hiders, when they are hidding, and claim the FTF.
I know people that don´t even go with the hider, just sign the logbook at home before placing, and they claim FTF.
I know people that have a stamp from other geocachers and stamp the logbook before placing, and they claim the FTF.
So... Put your own rules or guidelines in your profile so others know how do you geocache because the FTF game is not part of the Geocaching.com game!
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Definition of Cheat (intransitive verb):
Merriam Webster - to practice fraud or trickery; to violate rules dishonestly
Oxford - An act of cheating; a fraud or deception.
Free Dictionary - To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
So... Cheating is directly related to a person being dishonest. Let´s check dishonest:
Merriam Webster - saying or likely to say things that are untrue; containing information that is untrue.
Oxford - Behaving or prone to behave in an untrustworthy, deceitful, or insincere way; Intended to mislead or cheat.
Free Dictionary - Disposed to lie, cheat, defraud, or deceive.
So, if you say something or do something that you actually dind´t do you are lying and you are being a dishonest person. If you gain anything with it, you are a cheater.
Again confirm what a Spanish player said: "Geocaching is a game of cheaters"
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There are 127 caches within 10 miles of the coordinates for the Estonian Puppet Theater cache. That doesn't sound like in the middle of nowhere to me.
I think there is only one "middle of nowhere cache": http://coord.info/GC1BE91
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Too much angst can happen on FTFs so just claim what you want to.
Yeahhh... lay low for a while and be afraid of what might happen... people in this game tend to be vengeful and you never know what might happen!
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The prior posts (60, 61 & 62) suggest burnout as the diagnosis. Your post here shows you're on fire. Any thoughts?
"Some people say to fight fire with fire. I think the Fire Department uses water." Steven Wright
Actually the Fire Department first tries to cut some trails and clean up some parts of the woods before attacking the fire with water... That is what I did! Cleaned up my forest!!!!
Fighting fire with fire would be starting stealing other players caches, the way they did it with me... This is something I will never do!!!!
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Some will get the August souvenirs in January 2015... just log it with a date of August 2014!!!!
Does it actually matter?
Yes it does... like a Spanish player said in the Spanish Forum: "Geocaching is a game of cheaters"
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I have a 1 difficulty mystery cache. (Yes! Despite what people say about me, I do have a 1 difficulty mystery cache!) About a mile away, my nephew has a fairly easy EarthCache. This combo has attracted a number of August 2014 souvenir hunters. The last four finders (a group) have not responded to the request for answers for the EarthCache. We checked their personal page, and all four have received the "The Achiever" souvenir, even though their list of caches found does not include a log for "The Collector". It appears that they might have logged a cache that qualifies but either deleted their logs, or had them deleted by the cache owner. And it looks probable that their EarthCache finds will be deleted as well.
But they will still have their souvenirs! Cheat, cheat, dolphin feet!
Very creative!
Honestly, I would just laugh at them.I know a Brazilian geocacher that, to get all the August 2013 daily souvenirs would log a found in each day and then delete it... Just to get all the souvenirs!!!!
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all players can clain to be the FTFs in a speacial way...
In that case, when I sign the blank page, I can claim "Second To Find"! I'm gonna do that, next chance I get.
On that day, I predict the Figurative School will show up again.
Actually you can say in your log: "FTF!!!! I was the first guy to get this cache with my 2 friends Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde"
NO ONE can say you are wrong so you got the FTF!!!! And of your log gets delete just file a complaint to Groundspeak and they will un-delete the log. FTF is not part of the geocaching game so you can do whatever you want!!!! REALLY!!!!!
Another thing is if you want to be honest or not about your FTFs... -
Some will get the August souvenirs in January 2015... just log it with a date of August 2014!!!!
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You are First To Find a container with a piece of paper.
The container became a cache when it got published, so the one who signed the log first after the publication is First To Find the cache.
WOW!!! Someone that thinks like me.... I am not alone!!!!
But since the FTF side game is not officially managed by Groundspeak you can do whatever you want! Actually all players can clain to be the FTFs in a speacial way...
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I'm sorry, but those guys are just doing it wrong.
Where is that in the guidelines?
Given that it has nothing to do with placing a geocache, it isn't in there.
I personally almost fell out of my chair laughing at Preto's response. Perhaps I gave too much credit for the self-deprecating sarcasm that I picked up, but I really don't think he was being serious.
Perfect word choise! You got it right!!!!
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I'm sorry, but those guys are just doing it wrong.
Where is that in the guidelines?
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Esta semana continúan los registros de visto en la placa de revisor, muchas vienen desde España en concreto Galicia, otras desde Portugal y el log dice visto en el Mega Love Love de Oporto, como narices es posible si yo estaba a casi 3000 km2 en Múnich.
Se ve que la lista corre como la pólvora, por supuesto estoy borrando esos registros. Me alegra que a su vez Geocaching.com ha dicho que no habrá más challenges basados en los objetos trackables, así lo mismo algunos dejan de hacer esos logs por hacer algo.
Pero si mismo los Moderadores de Foros colocan los códigos de sus geocoins en el foro para que todos puedan descubrir, no crees que lo que pasa a los demás jugadores es: "Se pueden compartir códigos sin problemas, es normal!!!"
http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=290388&view=findpost&p=5048452
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Existindo já um tópico sobre o tema, não vejo interesse em criar um novo. As duplicações de tópicos nos fóruns são de evitar.
Obrigado uma vez mais pelo sábio conselho... Porque até acho que a maioria dos jogadores Brasileiros olham constantemente para o Forum Espanhol!!!!
Resposta simples: Com certeza NÃO!!!
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Ou seja, os trapaceiros estão trapaceando a si mesmos.
Então, afinal é não ou é sim?!?!?!?!
Olha, aqui no Brasil conheço jogadores que registam finds sem encontrar realmente o cache, eles mesmos o dizem no registo, outros logam finds e apagam mais tarde, apenas para ficarem com o souvenir, e tenho mais exemplos deste tipo...
Volto a dizer: "O maior cego é o que não quer ver!"
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Preto, talk to the Reviewer over a beer. All of you guys want peace in Brazil. He can help patch things up & revive your archived caches.
The reviewers are 8.000km away, remember?
Am I the only one who calculated that out to a bit under five miles?
Google seems to disagree with you by a few miles - about 4,965
There's a difference betwenn a comma and a period. Just sayin'.
Also between metric and imperial system. We use , for decimals and . for thousands...
Just saying!
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Preto, talk to the Reviewer over a beer. All of you guys want peace in Brazil. He can help patch things up & revive your archived caches.
The reviewers are 8.000km away, remember?
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He really did archive all his caches. Taking this stuff way too seriously.
If I took it too seriously I would complain and complain and complain to the highest command...
As I am not taking it too serious I just archived all caches, problem solved... They cannot steal more caches, at least mines!
I wish you could understand Portuguese and be able to read some posts in the Brazilian forum... In one of the latest, the now famous Brazilian Forum Moderator "Rui de Almeida" tells me not to start topics that refer to the same subjects that are/were discussed in another language Forum.
So now I must also learn other languages (different from Portuguese) not to repeat the same matters being discussed there in the Brazilian Forum, written in Portuguese.
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The prior posts (60, 61 & 62) suggest burnout as the diagnosis. Your post here shows you're on fire. Any thoughts?
Are you asking me?
I thought I explained it couldn´t be a burnout (a burnout doesn´t appear 3 months after you actually burnout) but "just" disappointment with the actions made by the local community...
By the way, found something interesting, looking back at the logs from the events I participated:
January this year... I show my concerns about local geocachers not maintaining their caches... just curious no?
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You should have simply removed the items, but instead you wanted the cache owner to be punished.
How can I punish someone that doesn´t play the game since 2010?
Wait a minute. You complained about the contents listed when a cache was originally placed at LEAST 4 years ago? Did you even visit the cache or were you just perusing cache listings looking for infractions to complain about?
Really?!?!?!?! Is that your question?!?!?!?! The answer in on the cache page!!!!
Can you point out the lancets in that picture?
Yet another question answered by the cache page....
PS: Spoiler picture 1... blue rod-shaped in the middle!
Close up, just for you!
Honestly, I would just laugh at them.
It's September 1st
in General geocaching topics
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Thanks for understanding my point of view!!!!