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When you click on the link to place a cache, GC.com is putting ALL responsibility on the cache placer to determine that they have PERMISSION to place the cache, regardless if it is public or private property. If everyone actually tried to get permission, the total caches would probably be cut by a third. A parking lot is private property. And there are many caches placed on "public land" without permission, even though many have restrictions. Some people think that just because no one complains, that it's ok, but often that's not the case.

There's still time! Gem & Estelle

According to GC.com, you need "express permission" to place a cache. Period. (this doesn't seem to happen all the time though)

Shocker. No Geocacher claimed the Green Mountain (CO) Green Jeep from my Gem & Estelle Cache - must have been the grizzlies....

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I didn't mean any disrespect. But you are partially right in your reasoning. Sometimes change is good. Sometimes clinging to ancient rituals is good as well.

I'm of the opinion that it's a good idea to wear blaze orange and be smart in the woods when you know you're around hunters or in an area where hunting is occuring. I'm an avid elk & deer hunter and have actually run into a few situations myself where I thought a hunter was going to fire on me when I was hunting (while wearing orange). Sometimes, there's not much you can do. p.s.: Currently seven states entirely prohibit hunting on Sunday for wild game; they are Delaware, Maine, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Virginia, New Jersey and Connecticut. All of these states have considered legislation to lift the bans in recent years. Repealing the Sunday hunting bans has been actively supported by the wildlife agencies in Maine and New Jersey. Four states allow limited Sunday hunting: Maryland allows hunting on two Sundays during deer season; South Carolina allows Sunday hunting on private land only; North Carolina allows Sunday hunting on some federal installations; in 2001 West Virginia enacted legislation that allows Sunday hunting on private land, but each county can hold a referendum to ban Sunday hunting; currently 14 counties allow it. Does anyone else recognize the geographical pattern here?

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I don't see a problem with it - you could also post a "note" online that you visited the cache as well - maybe the cache owner would be interested in the condition of the cache at the time of your visit.

You guys over in WV probably have some neat old Stones. Periodically, we find a few over here in Idaho. One of my proudest finds was an original GLO stone buried under about a foot of duff near two small depressions (old bearing tree locations) after another surveyor reset the corner 15 feet away and filed his Record of Survey... But staying on topic, I agree with ya - sometimes it's anoying - everywhere I go, I subconsiously look for evidence...

Dude this guys talkin like hes hot stuff, never had a DNF. I bet thats hard when youve found a total of 22 caches umm... you were just PWNED "Hot Stuff"? lol Listen *student "thehelmz"*, I was just commenting to the question. My profession is Land Surveying and we use high grade GPS so I am familiar with and can use it, and I'm also pretty familiar with plodding around in the woods searching for elusive section corners. Go play *___________*. *edited by request*

I haven't had a DNF yet, so I haven't had to log one.

I still think that an Icon should go with only one item. Regardless of it being metal, wood, etc... - I think it's goofy that the same Icon could possibly be related to two physically different things.

Part of the reason that I paid my $30 was because of PMO caches. Since most of the posters on this thread think that it's perfectly acceptable for a regular member to log PMO caches, maybe I'll just skip the $30 next year since I was under the assumption that's part of what I was paying for.

If it's not a FTF gift from the original owner/maker, then it is to be moved to another cache and never kept. But some people think that they just "need" to hoard 'em.

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That'd make about 3/4 of all the threads bandwidth trash...

Here's my thoughts: If a coin is found, you should get the coin Icon. If a paper coin is found, you should get a coin Icon with a huge red X through it to signify that you only found a piece of paper. Some "Icon collectors" crack me up. So do they close their eyes and imagine that they're holding the real coin? If so, I guess maybe they should get an imaginary icon?

Litter sucks. Just because a person caches in a dumpy location is no reason to make it worse. If I saw something like that, I'd email GC.com to have it archived.

If a geocoin is gone, it's gone. A paper copy of a coin is NOT a geocoin. It's a piece of paper. If people are going to get upset over them being stolen, then they shouldn't place them in a cache. I've never and will never steal a coin in circulation, but I guess there are those that think that they're more important than the next person who might enjoy the coin. But that's just me...

Wow - a lot of sarcasm in this here thread....

I don't see it being any worse than an artificial container with a slip of paper with coordinates inside it.

I agree. I recently set a cache where I saw a Griz on the way up the mountain near the cache site. The cache is also 1000' elevation change off-trail. I've added warnings, but it would be nice to have an icon where I don't rate the cache high becuase of the bear, but because of the difficulty/terrain. As it is, I've upped the ratings because of it.

I really don't see the harm in ANY "requirements" to sign a cache. The owner put the thing out there, so it's up to him/her to make any "rules" for the cache. If you don't like it, move on.