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No I would not log that on line. You weren't intending to look for the cache and weren't actively seeking the cache. So you should not log it. How do you know which one you found unless you expected to find one?

In this case probably the best approach is archive it and submit a new listing. Moving it that far is a new experience finding it and it no longer is like the old one. But if your really insistent, ask the reviewer to update the coordinates. Of course the reviewer will treat this as a new cache and it has to meet all the current guidelines.

The above caches are in the bookmark. Sorry I can't add the numbers to the numbering file, usersort only allows integer values.

The placed by name on the cache page can be anything you want, it is a free form edit field on the cache page. The owner can not be edited or changed, except by adopting. The placed by link always points to the owner.

You haven't figured it out yet? LZ33 lives in that house and has a trail cam set up on the cache. Him and AC4SH like to look at the pictures while they BBQ.

The property in question was owned by the developer in 2005 The CO bought their house in 1998 in that subdivision. It's quite possible that in 2005 the house on the property in queston did not exist.

And if your trail cam catches a picture of some one running naked through the woods you might truly wish you never saw that picture.

By HQ or by the CO? Odd if HQ did it. Par for the course, based on previous info, if the CO did it. By HQ. How do we know? I have the cache on watch list and haven't seen anything from HQ stating they removed it. Not that I don't believe it. It is possible. Just wondering how we know. Ditto. I'm going with CO since there are a couple finds after the NA/reviewer disable. Wonder if a reviewer diable can not be cleared by the CO or the CO just doesn't know how to clear the disable.

I agree 100%. By the way your count is not even right on GC.om. I you get a list of caches found by owner the redacted cache is missing. Only your stats banner and profile stats is correct.

Bookmark updated, data file at cachemachine.hollenback.org[/url updated. Possible problems #36 - GC35G47 - Been disabled since 4/21/2015 #41 - GC3CRT5 - Last Two where DNF #57 - GC1TQZB - Disabled, possible MIA #68 - GC33J5H - Disabled, reported full of orange soda. The three Travis requested have been added to the bookmark list. If you use the numbering macro they will not have a number and will sort to the top of the list. I have no idea why that last reference is screwed up.

Boy talk about a persnal attack. How come you didn't flame the moderator/reviewer as bad as you flamed the land manager?

Darn, I missed a free trackable? where did you see that? That makes me mad, it's just like a FTF, I always have to tear out the first page of the logbook so I can log a FTF.

I've taken the list down until I get a chance to update it. Later tonight or tomorrow.

Whatever happened to Ambient_Skater? He discovered girls and got a drivers license.

Oh, of course. I should have guessed that... sorry. Yes, it is getting a little more attention. Getting comments like this: Well, the GIS map doesn't lie. The cache is on private property within the HOA. The sign near parking coords says Private. It is a common area for the residents, as far as I can tell. People really should stay out until this is settled. No doubt it made the six o'clock news with film at 11 - or at least the local twitface page. So ya folks are going to go and check it out. Apparently the neighbor whose land the cache is on does not have a fence running down his property line so coming in from the path on the HOA land they don't perceive, or don't care to acknowledge, that they are trespassing on private land. Hopefully the right thing will be done, but in the mean time there is plenty of opportunity for bad things to happen as long as the cache is physically there. And a film can to boot.

Thanks for the chuckles. Some one with two caches makes a comment? Now that is down right hilarious. This two cache wonder besides being a moderator also happens to be a reviewer. Some one that can see the deleted logs. The proletariat can't view deleted logs. As for IslandsandOceans I don't suppose you ever considered it might be the account of a land manager that that is involved with caching and probably is active themselves with caching. As for local involvement, I think Laughteronwather qualifies.

<snip> ... And cache owners don't get notifications for edits. Project Geocaching provides notification of log updates. Nice, but irrelevant until Groundspeak provides them. You can't expect every cache owner to even be aware of Project Geocaching, much less use it. "More later" is another wrong way of logging. Geocaching.com does provide you with the tool to see any changes to the logs (if you feel that is important) - go back and re-read the logs where a finder has promised a more detailed log later. Rather than relying on the CO using some third party software, if I post a "More later" find log, when I have time to write up the log in detail, I'll just delete my original find log and post a new find filled with all the flowery prose I meant to put in the first time around. That way the CO gets a new notification when my log is "edited". You realize, of course, that is the wrong way to do it. Now your log is out of order, the electronic version of signing the log in a random spot.

The first question in the Message Center FAQ is "Why did you create the Message Center?" Therefore, speculation as to why it was designed shouldn't be necessary. I read that and I still don't understand the need for the message center. There is nothing in the answer that shows the message center is answer when email is not, other than the need for verified emails. So to me the question why create a system that your users don't like, and your volunteer reviewers don't like, instead of using those resources to fix the existing email system? When your volunteer reviewers tell people to not contact them via email and that emails will be ignored but to use the message center only, then there might be a need for the message center.

There is no gpx file available, that would be a direct violation of Groundspeak terms of use. However if you go to the event page you will see a bookmark for the event caches. Scroll to the bottom and generate a PQ from the bookmark.

I'm reminded of Zaphod Beeblebrox in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (not the protagonist, but plays one in Arthur Dent's story) when he discovers that in fact, the whole universe really was about him. Because who knows... from the reader's perspective, maybe the universe really is all about the protagonist. Who's the protagonist in this story? Chris The mice.

Absolutely wrong. I live near Seattle and when I use the featured searches all my results are from around Vancouver, Washington or really closer to Hood Canal, OR. Isn't IP based searching just wonderful? The featured searches are, in my opinion, a useless waste of compute time. Sure would be nice if there was an option to use home coordinates for the featured searches.

No, not at all. And it isn't new. The recently archived Colorado Geo"Art" was also made up of mystery caches. The point isn't that "it must be wrong". The point is that it is a no-brainer to make a picture of something when you can make up the coordinates to be whatever you need them to be in order to make your picture. Now, the old steam locomotive geoArt... that, as I recall, was all or mostly all regular caches, and placed in very hilly terrain at that. THAT got my respect. This does not. This has all the creativity of playing Chopin on a player piano. You would probably like the thunderbird. Mostly traditions but a nice mix Wherigo's, letterboxes and multis. It's near the train.

I have to admit, after reading a lot of what some "cachers" do on these pages, I'm not very inclined to think much of high-numbers guys. I can't help thinking they are either armchair loggers, throwdowners, leap-froggers, or just log everything as a find because they spent a minute looking for it (or even just loaded it on their gps). What I don't think is that they went up to each and every cache, opened it, signed the log, and carefully put it back the way they found it. I'm sure there are plenty of cachers with high counts who did do it right, but their reputation is sullied by the cheaters. Yes, I have to admit after reading about what low number cachers do, and seeing what they do in their logs I'm very inclined not to think much of low number cachers. I can't help think all they want to do is inflate their numbers and cheat by writing notes on a cache as a found it, logging the cache is missing with a found it, logging a DNF with a found it, in fact it seems like the only log they know how to log is a found it. And when I look at the logs of he caches I find it is surprising how many times the signature of the low number cacher is not on the log of he cache they claim they found. And half the time if I come after them I find they just threw the cache down on the ground and made no attempt to place it back where it belongs. I'm sure there might be one or two low number cachers that do it right, but their reputation is forever ruined by the large majority of the low number cheaters.

In today instant gratification world, there are going to be people that don't take the time to read all of the cache page. Hey, look, its in the shape of a star. Let's try this. Got the coordinates, lets go, don't bother reading about it, its just boring history stuff. My suggestion is aimed at trying to get the attention of those few. Looking at your profile, I see you have found over 29,000 caches. So, I think its safe to say you have a little more experience in these things than most. :-) Thanks, Skye. Did you look at the logs? Practically without exception the finders all have been around the block more than once. There were no single digit weekend wonders. Just the location (and probably cell reception ) alone is enough to keep newbie smartphone crowd at bay. Except for the most neophyte most know a mystery cache is not at the location posted and you have to read the description to figure out the puzzle. Do mysteries even show up in the intro app? I put the problems down to a) since it is a puzzle and you have to figure out numbers and do math there were errors that made, it is normal human mistakes. This resulted in bad coordinates that caused interaction with locals. b ) there were some that live out there that resented and did not want outsiders driving down "their" road or walking up to their fences. c} Maybe a bit of cache maggot. I seriously doubt it is because folks loaded a PQ and took off.