greywynd

I think I'll stick to the metric system for the next one. There is a common compound that has a convenient 'overlap' feature with distance, mass, and volume, what compound is it, and how does it tie the three forms of measure together? Greywynd

Oops, should have had some more zeroes on that, should have been 1/10 000 000 of the way from the pole to the equator. Thinking more about it, and since it started with the King of France, I believe it was also supposed to be the line running from the pole to the equator through Paris. (Though any line from the pole to the equator should, in theory, be the same length.) As far as practicality goes, I don't think I'd want to be the guy trying to measure from the equator to the pole either.

Now it has some official definition of some miniscule portion of a lightwave given off by some element or another...would have to google it to recall beyond that though. Beyond that, I actually remembered it from learning the metric system in school. Now, being a toolmaker, you should see me convert imperial to metric on the fly in my head.....starting with a fraction of an inch, and finishing with metric in decimal form (though I always double check before getting into grinding the metal!!!!)....hehehe Greywynd

Not 100% sure what you mean by 'geo-measurement' but originally the metre was based on being a fraction of the distance between the equator and the north pole. It was supposed to have been 1/10000 of the distance, though it was actually farther than that. A metal (silver?) bar was made that was supposed to be the standard to compare everything else to, but eventually it was also discovered to have changed length over time due to temperature and 'creeping' of the metal. Greywynd

Why do the Jones's have a bigger house than me? Why do the Smith's have a fancier car than me? Because sometimes that's the way it is. One wrong doesn't mean another one is ok. The issue behind the episode is the fact that your cache was denied. Now you are arguing it should be ok, because the other one is.....not necessarily so. Just because someone else robbed a bank doesn't mean it's ok for me to do the same. Maybe the other cache needs to be reviewed, but as was stated elsewhere in the thread, it hasn't been indicated. There is also the fact that there is discretion available, your cache isn't just beside a highway, it is in the centre of a major hub of highway, interstate, and railroad, which, IMO, makes the area a much larger candidate for some sort of terrorist activity. Greywynd

Just a rookie cacher here, but I would like to comment on Keystone's professionalism in handling this matter, and many others I've seen on these threads. (Though maybe he'll be upset that this is an 'off topic post?) It takes a lot of time for one to act as a moderator in a busy forum such as this, and to be an active reviewer as well takes more time. To the original poster....why the big deal? There are lots of places to hide caches, work with the reviewer to adjust this one, maybe it can be part of a multi or puzzle cache, or relocate it. I know at some point I'll have a cache turned down for whatever reason, and lots that I've found now are in 'grey' areas for official permission, but due to adequate permission, have been approved. You say "And as replied to, there is no way to obtain permission as permission is not needed for this city's parks. We attempted to do so and had no success after speaking with almost everyone in the Parks Department. So how is one to gain permission when the city parks department have absolutely no clue what geocaching is and don't even issue permits?!? Even if it was moved around in the park, there is still no way to get a permit." If you have the same tact and approach to the Parks Department that you did here, you might well be a reason for those same employees to suggest to city officials that a by-law to ban caches in city owned places might be a good idea. Remember, those 'elected officials' are looking to get votes to stay where they are after the next election, careful planning with the press about how much $$ it will save taxpayers by lowering the workload for the bomb squad will outweigh the votes of the geocachers. We all have to work together as ambassadors to the sport, for the good of the sport in the long run. This means that we need to be respectful and courteous at all times to others in the sport, and those outside the sport as well. We've all seen how media plays such a huge role in our society, if the wrong leaders play that against geocaching, we could suffer a huge blow in a lot of ways. As a current example, look at the trend from San Francisco's plastic bag ban, Ontario is now looking at a huge incentive to reduce bags, some of the municipalities are looking into total bans, and I know of other Canadian and American cities and towns looking at options. (I'm not saying that eliminating plastic bags is bad btw, just trying to show how quickly this has spread due to media attention.) Just one incident of the wrong type could put a black eye on geocaching across the continent. I had an opportunity a while ago for good cache containers, free, being thrown out where I work, weatherproof. But, since they were made from plastic pipe and components, I let them be thrown out. I've decided from reading these forums that pipe containers are not good if found by the wrong people, and they will be, we know that. Honestly I'm surprised that we don't have to tell the reviewers the exact container we're using, and lots more details than we do. So far this sport hasn't been inundated with rules and regulations, we're mostly self policing (if you can go as far as calling it policing) because we rely on human nature, and the better side of that. Greywynd

Horse is the answer I was looking for. Bit of trivia here, did you realize that in (at least some towns/cities) that your employer is, by law, required to provide drinking water for the horses? Often hitching posts are also required by law, though neither is enforced, obviously. Though if gas prices continue....... JP and Landsharkz can duel it out.....both posted at the same time. Greywynd

Snowmobile. Dang...hadn't thought of that one.....but was thinking of an 'on-road' vehicle. Just realized I should have said 'legal on-road vehicle'.....doh!!

Isn't it great what kids TV does for a person? What 'legal vehicle' without wheels could be used to go geocaching?

Okie dokie, Who is the New Brunswick geocacher who has a travel bug tatoo'ed on his shoulder, and when you meet/find him, you can log him in as a find? His name wouldn't be Stroover by any chance, might it? If this question is too difficult, I can find something more general (?). But for now, how about a clue: His geocaching name is taken from a long-time running kids' cartoon, from which the show's name and the main character's name are the same. A goofy kind of investigator, to say the least... Inspector Gadget? having a 6 yo in the house helps keep us up to date.

Okie dokie, Who is the New Brunswick geocacher who has a travel bug tatoo'ed on his shoulder, and when you meet/find him, you can log him in as a find? Not sure how many here are familiar with New Brunswick geocachers....though I may be wrong. Guess he's pretty serious about his caching huh? lol Greywynd

Well, that depends, how big is your breadbox? The cache is listed as a "Small" container, and is rated a 5/5 but considering the climb and amount of time you would need to invest, it will probably stay unfound for a long time. TOMTEC Sounds like it may fall outside of GC's guideines for maintenance then and should be removed from the listings!! Greywynd

Tis ok, I'll wait first and see if anyone else knows it. I didn't google it, but I won't say at this time where I saw it either. Besides, I'm hoping to be outside most of the next few days ('cept for the wee hours) between preparing for a canoe run Saturday for caches, caching in general, or other outdoor activities. Forecast looks perfect from now until early next week!!! Greywynd

Figures....I just happened to read online earlier about this coin.......so I have to skip 'cuz I have an unfair advantage now. Regardless, it's still a great coin, with the handles of people that I have a great deal of respect for. As time goes on, I hope to meet more of our servicemen and ladies, particularly the cachers. I get to write stuff like this on the internet because of the dedication of them all. Greywynd

Wow, that was long ago, even I recognize all the PAPER that you were hauling!!!!

http://crownlanduseatlas.mnr.gov.on.ca/index.htm did a quick search and came up with this site. takes some getting used to but has tons of infromation on it. bryan There is very little Crown land in the London area. The Crown Land Use Atlas should show Southern Ontario Crown land in the next update. It may be Conservation Authority Area. You could check this site too. Donna G If you want to know for sure, go to the Land Registry Office for the area that you are in (most major centres will have the one for that city and the surrounding county/region) and there you can look up the registered owner of the property. There may or may not be a fee, it's been several years since I've done it. Greywynd

I bought a 60CSx this last February, the way I looked at it, I thought I'd rather spend the extra up front and have all the features. Of course the other option is to buy something a little lower in price, and see if you like it. I sprung for the one I did so I could use it while travelling, boating/hiking, or for geocaching. I think you'll see these particular units around for a while, especially since you can upgrade via the internet as well. Greywynd

Anyone else come across any new or interesting electronic caches?

I often use mapsource to plot a route, then you can load the route into GSAK (search, filter, arc/poly, get file) and it will list the caches within whatever distance you want. I like it because I often find in rural areas the distance the GC search allows just isn't enough. A cache that may be 1-2 kms beyond the limit, but easy to get with a route change, is easy to miss, but using GSAK I rarely miss them. I'll go even bigger sometimes, create a database on my palm in cachemate, then I have more to pick from if I end up changing my route. I may have to punch the co-ords into my GPS manually though depending on what I loaded into it for the trip. I can see a laptop for the vehicle in the future. Greywynd

Eleven? (OK I thought that was the trick...that they were all in Kingston. After thinking about it some more, I went and looked it up, so I have to abstain from answering. ) Greywynd

I think the 'permits' licenses etc are a great novelty, kind of like a membership card. Unfortunately, I think (myself included) a lot of us thought you were simply an individual trying to make a buck, no where in your post or the ad does it say 'proceeds to ______ Geocaching assocation" I don't believe I said anything that you should have taken offense to, but if I did I apologize. Greywynd

That date is correct. Greywynd took the next question though because I haven't been online all weekend. You guys can duke it out for the glory. Cheers, I don't duke anything out anymore.....starting to feel teh bruises a lot more than I used too!!

Guinness stopped recognizing it as such in 1998, but a lot of Canucks still lay claim to the title. If I recall it was also a Trivial Pursuit question, not like that makes it gospel either. (Also notice I said "considered"?) Check out the following from Wikipedia: Yonge Street was a part of Ontario Provincial Highway 11, which led to claims that Yonge Street was the longest street in the world. Running from the shores of Lake Ontario, through central and northern Ontario to the Ontario-Minnesota border at Rainy River, Highway 11 was over 1,896 kilometres long. But Yonge Street could only be called the longest street in the world if "Highway 11" and "Yonge Street" were synonymous, which was debatable. However, the Guinness Book of World Records recognized this claim as late as 1998. Changes in provincial responsibility separated the now locally-funded and controlled Yonge Street from Highway 11 during the 1990s. As a result, Provincial Highway 11 does not start until after the city of Barrie (or Crown Hill), just north of where the name "Yonge Street" ends. The Guinness Book of World Records no longer lists Yonge as the longest street in the world, citing instead the Pan-American Highway as the world's longest "motorable road". This has not stopped Torontonians from clinging to the claim. Although current tourist campaigns do not make much of it, its status as an urban myth is bolstered by an art installation at the foot of Yonge Street, and a map of its length laid out into the sidewalk in bronze at the southwest corner of Yonge and Dundas Streets. Also, according to The Guinness Book of World Records, the Pan-American Highway is the world's longest "motorable road", though there are several areas that are questionable, and even a gap or two in rain forest areas. Greywynd

Yep. Goes from Toronto to vancouver. Have a question to throw out?

Correct, now what year for all the marbles? No peeking!!! Ok, I didn't get all teh marbles, but since it's been quiet, I'll throw out a question. What's considered the longest street in the world? Greywynd