Mach2003

Window Mobile 5 Supports a native GPS driver for internal chips. You need to download, install and run Mobile XT, then enable the IQue plugin in cachemate. Options, Preferences, Plugins tab, GPS Querry, then pull down Garmin IQue GPS/Mapping tap ok, ok. Run the downloaded file on the PC, it will set up active sync to copy it to your card, or allow you to copy it with the card reader attached to the PC. Download Mobile Xt from: Mobile XT Download, get the free basemap and support files too. Edit for: What did I do wrong with the url link??? Download Mobile Xt from: http://www8.garmin.com/support/collection....ct=010-00579-00

I just did a short drive to the store with Active Track on max. Saved the track, named it, then displayed the info from it. In Canadian (items in brackets are assumeed, and not shown): Start time: 08-07-11 8:11:53 pm Elapsed Time: 10:12 Average Speed: 10.6 (km/hr) Distance 1.81 (km) Color White (for map display) Area 0.924 ha Display On Map Enabled I see no way to export this track to the PC to display in Mapsource. CacheNav will display any four of: Altitude, Bearing, Course, Distance, EPE, HDOP, HEPE, MagVar, PDOP, Speed or Turn as live items on the compass screen. It has a seperate screen to show the sat "sky" with the numbers and the relitive signal strength.

I knew how it worked except for the Cachemate SDK part. That was the part that I was curious about. Thanks! The next question is: Which is better? BeelineGPS or CacheNAV? CacheNav come with Cachemate for free, and reads XT through the SDK. I have never tried BeelineGPS, but for me memory is an issue on the PPC, so I would not want another app installed on it unless it offered a great advantage. Does Beeline support the XT SDK? If it does not, then you would not be able to use Mobile XT at the same time as Beeline as only one program will be able to read the 10x at a time. Does Beeline support the 10x directly through bluetooth? You mean that Cachemate comes with CacheNAV.... Good question which I have no clue to the answer. It looks like BL simulates a lot of the features of a normal GPS. I use the stats page on my GPS all the time to see the distance traveled, average speed, elevation gain, etc. I don't think that CacheNAV does any of that stuff. Does it? No you download CacheMate and CacheNav is a plugin that works from within cachemate. It is included in the same download, and registration fee ($8.00, one time charge). Nope cachenav has no such features, it displays some basic info only: compass arrow, speed, direction etc.. Mobile Xt has a trip odometer that records distance traveled, average speed, but nothing on elevation gain. It has a track log feature like any other GPS, but I have not used it since the Palm days so do not know how to get it out on the ppc, and onto the PC. On the Palm it exported into the same "current.gpx" file mentioned earlier, but the PPC version of XT does not have this feature directly (that I can find).

I knew how it worked except for the Cachemate SDK part. That was the part that I was curious about. Thanks! The next question is: Which is better? BeelineGPS or CacheNAV? CacheNav comes with Cachemate for free, and reads XT through the SDK. I have never tried BeelineGPS, but for me memory is an issue on the PPC, so I would not want another app installed on it unless it offered a great advantage. Does Beeline support the XT SDK? If it does not, then you would not be able to use Mobile XT at the same time as Beeline as only one program will be able to read the 10x at a time. Does Beeline support the 10x directly through bluetooth? Edit to say: Cachenav is installed with the cachemate program by default, no need to download it for the PPC. Now did I have to download the IQUE plugin (it is for Mobile XT too).

I knew how it worked except for the Cachemate SDK part. That was the part that I was curious about. Thanks! Please accept my apology for making an ASSumption here, I miss-interpreted your question about cachemate reading the 10x, and thought you might have needed clarification. I am sorry for this.

In re-reading your post TrailGators, I think I should add one thing in case it is not clear. Garmin Mobile XT is a program running on the PPC, it does ALL the communication with the 10X (actual GPSR reciever) via bluetooth. Cachemate interfaces with Mobile XT using a Garmin published Software Development Kit (SDK). The 10X actually listens to the sky, and calculates your position, and sends this via bluetooth to XT. the 10x has NO DISPLAY on it.

Both, sort of... Cachemate interfaces with XT rather well. Oh I should say the smartphone and the PPC are not exactly the same, and are not compatible with the wrong phone, so get the correct one. I use the PPC version (Windows Mobile). Cachemate has a menu item that grabs the current position from XT, then sorts the list on the position. It also has options to set a new center point when you mark a found or DNF on a cache, so the list auto sorts to the next closest cache. It has a button to "map" a cache in XT, from there you can either return to cachemate (done), or stay in XT and do more (info). Within XT: Where To?, My Locations brings up all of those 1000 that are on the map, in the order that is closest to your current position with distance and direction arrows if you are moving, or cardinal letters if you are not. Where to?, Extras brings up the many thousands of POI in the same way. Both have a spell button to narrow the list should you desire. Spell brings up its own on screen keypad. In practice, I use the map display in XT to find a target cache. Switch to cachemate to get the details. Use the button in cachemate that maps the cache in XT, Use the Info icon in XT to route to it (XT road routes without changing the aformentioned "At GPS Position" setting). Once I am parked, I switch back to cachemate, then press the button for cacheNav. This brings up the somewhat typical arrow and selectable data fields for off road navigation. I put the 10X on my backpack or belt clip, and the cell in my pocket and go toward the cache. When I get within 50 meters (300 feet) or so or a choice in paths, I pull out the cell, and watch the display. When I get within 10 meters, I slow down my pace and follow the arrow to GZ. I then put the cell back in my pocket and find the cache. Having found it (or not), I go back to the cell and record my log, and the found status (I have a qwerty keypad on the cell). On to the next... The instructions may seem a bit much, but they realy are not, the buttons and selections are quite handy with the touch screen and my thumb.

In Mobile XT, Settings, Map, Show Position = change to "At GPS Location" instead of the default "On Roads" This *MAY* fix both the slowness issue and the off road issue. The Garmin 10x does not have a slowness issue as I use it. It updates the position every 1 second, no matter how fast I am moving. Like I said earlier in this thread, Mobile XT does show the symbols on the map, just rename your GPX file to "CURRENT.GPX" and active sync it into the \Garmin\GPX folder then re-start MobileXT, it will load up to 1000 of them and show the correct symbols for the caches and the additional waypoints. I actually use GSAK to create the GPX file as I like the ability to change the names and descrition to suite my needs, but I have loaded GPX files from PQ and fromthe web page download and they have worked just fine. PS: The "Send to GPS" feature of the cache pages also works with Mobile XT when used through the Active Sync partnered PC.

The maps on the SD card, as far as I know, still have the unlock code, so will only work with the correct 10x, on any PPC. There is no mapsource installer and the files are in the gps format not the mapsource format so no you can not move them to the PC this way. Mobile XT comes on the card, but installs to the PPC main memory on first run. The 10X does allow unlock codes to be applied to it, so I would buy the 10x and the map product seperatly, then you get the PC maps, and can move what ever segments you want to the PPC card. Mobile XT id free download as long as a Garmin unit is connected to it. I have Topo Canada (no unlock), Metro Guide Canada (no unlock), and City Navigator 2009 (unlock for 10X), as well as some free maps not made by Garmin.

I have my maps loaded, purchased seperatly on disc. and loaded throgh the PC. Just like any other garmin unit. I use the same mapset on my (now backup) Legend CX. No there is no voice prompt once off road is used. Only roads are spoken outloud. I did write a program for the Palm application that beeped for (I am in Canada) 500, 250, 100, 50, 20, 10, and "hepe" meters from the cache, the tone of the beep told me how far I was away. This funtionality is not yet available for me to add it to the PPC yet (Cachemate plugin SDK). I sure miss this feature as hiking in, and pulling out the unit to check how far every now and them is a pain. But at least with the 10X, the cell phone can be deap in my pocket, and I still have great GPS coverage. Actually voice is quite close, you can program voice prompts to run applications, but not functions within an application (cachemate has the hints). But once you are tired of looking, a few clicks brings them up.

Mobile XT will read GPX files as waypoints (1000), just rename the GPX file to current.gpx and store it in the \Garmin\GPX folder, then re-start Mobile XT, and all the caches show on the map as little treasure chests (or parking markers, trailheads, etc). It also supposts the "unlimited" poi feature common on all Garmin units. Cachemate records found or dnf, and allows you to log in the field for later tranfer to GC.COM. Cachenav does the little arrow, XT shows a map with the cache on it I wonder what "geocaching" mode is missing?

I use Moble XT with the Garmin 10X bluetooth GPSr on my Windows Moble 5 cell phone. It works GREAT for caching and road nav with voice turn prompts. I have cachemate PPC installed as well and use the cachenav plugin to find GZ. It does react slowly, but as long as you slow down as you get close it keeps up just fine. The 10x can be purchesed as an OEM device for under $100. Mobile XT can be downloaded from Garmin for free. The system supports ALL Garmin (and compatable) maps. As a side note I recently switched this setup from the Palm version of both the above software so I could combine all my dvices into one (Cell, Camera, GPS, email...) But it worked just fine on the Palm version too.

Garmin's Mobile Xt (for the GPS 10 and 10X) does not run on Palm 4.1, you need a model with palm operating system at least 5.

Metro Canada has teh same road set as Topo Canada, too bad it is 2004 based data. NT 2008 has 2007 data, but only main roads.

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I use 13 PQ a week to keep MY CACHING area handy in GSAK palm and GPSr. If a large area were available in a single PQ, the number of caches I get a week would be about the same (or might be more as I do not have the whole province in my PQ set). Bottom line is that I do not use the max 35 a week now. And if this request existed, then I would get ONE PQ a week with the same caches in it as I get in 13 now. For ME, this request would make little difference than the existing system. For Groundspeak I can see that server load would be much lower. We know that the PQ server is a different machine, that imply's that the PQ server does a search of the main data server for each PQ it generates. Having a single PQ generated and then shared by only TWO cachers, still cuts back the enquiry on the MAIN DATA server by 50%. Any more cachers that would use the same (large) PQ instead of several smaller ones, would multiply the MAIN SERVER savings, and have no real effect on the PQ server. The email server will see a lower load too: one message to each cacher instead of 13. A single file is saved to the server, then sent to any number of cachers. At the end of the cycle (day), the file is deleted. Next week it runs again. Just make sure MY big PQ runs every Friday at 5:00 PM, so that I have the most current set for the weekend

The time it takes for a PQ to run on the server is directly related to the LAST time it was run. If the same PQ ran already today, then 4 hours for it to run again is quite normal.

Email the TB owner, ask them to confirm the code, they should have it listed on the BUG listing page.

Gladware lasts a very short time out there, before it cracks and leaks. Copy the hides you like best, in some circumstances (same town) you may want to email the original creator to ask what they think, before you snag the idea.

Nope, five is the number.

We do love night caches, but the end result can still be any container size. A seperate cache type would loose the container size.

My Legend CX holds well more that 10,000 (16,000 is the most I have loaded), and it does save to the SD card not internal ram. I have also loaded 8000+ into HCX units, not sure if it saved to SD or ram though.

This is common to all GPS units. Here's the work-around: As you get close to the target, watch the coordinates, not the pointer. You may have to switch screens to see the coordinates, depending on how you have your unit set up. Just move around slowly until the coordinates match the target's figures. You will be very close! -Paul- I always find it easier to view the map screen zoomed in, and forget the compass all together. Just walk until the arrow is on top of the cache box. Zoom in more and more as you get closer.

I think the HC takes 24 for the waypoint name and 100 for the description. If you use GSAK, there is a menu item for smart name length, set it to larger (I use 16 - it fits better on the screen, but I have used 24).

I like the finds/unique solution, it provides everything in one simple additional number. The number chasers will get the total that they strive for, others get "their" version of a score. Looks like everyone wil be happy. Of course this does not discourage someone from logging 1000 attendeds, but who realy cares if they do that anyway?