Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hide

You can power the 60CSx off the USB connector so your power options are much greater - you're not limited to using the round 4 pin serial connector. Just buy a regular lighter adaptor/usb cable.

I've never owned a TT, but there are many topics you can find which discuss using one for Geocaching. Here's one: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=174280 But if you Google the question you'll find many more responses. Good Luck!

Some of us just don't think it's worth the Smartphone cost, so "paperless caching" is quite good enough, thanks. Nothing to do with "old school".

Garmin supplies rechargeable NiMh batteries with the 550... and they last quite a while too.

The high resolution screen of the Oregon is reason enough to upgrade, imho. Once I had my Oregon 550, I never wanted to go back to my 60CSx... sold it shortly after.

Might find your answer more quickly here: http://garmincolorado.wikispaces.com/

Here's a comparison. - http://garminoregon.wikispaces.com/Colorado+vs+Oregon

I use an Oregon 550 on my motorcycle and the screen never looks bad... Do you save tracks? If so, the Colorado might not be the one for you because it's not got good track features. You might want to look into the Nuvi 500 or 550 - it can be used handheld, on the bike or in a cage and has pretty good features. It's waterproof, which is most important on the bike. And most important of all, the Nuvi 500 is really cheap - can be found refurbished for as little as $149 at DrivenGPS.com

Maybe this is why: Sat-nav devices face big errors as solar activity rises - BBC Story

You need to look into the Oregon's Dashboard feature.

I'd rather they spent the money on the gps, not paper. I rarely look at the manuals I get with any of my cell phones, gps and other electronics anyway.

I have - looks ok to me. Hasn't "bricked" it, anyway.

The quick start guide is all you get - so it's not likely missing anything. But you can check the Garmin site to see what's included "In the Box". And the best place to learn about it is the Oregon Wiki.

I think it would be a waste of money. If he liked caching he'd immediately want to upgrade... better to get something like a used eTrex Legend or similar... or borrow one. There are lots of people who've upgraded and have units sitting in a drawer doing nothing.

So they're not just happy satellites?

Why not? I know from my own helpdesk experience that often defective users cause the problem.

Took this pic out in the work parking lot - looks to me like both units are reporting very similar co-ordinates in this test: So maybe there's nothing to worry about in my case, anyway. The Oregon does not seem to have any variance beyond what would normally be expected.

To tell you the truth, I hope you're right and that the Oregon is reporting correctly, but I would still be surprised if the gps lied to me as to its real current co-ordinates.

Hope I don't take us out of sync - I had to edit that post above about 4 times to get it to say what I meant. You might want to refresh the page to keep us "on the same page"! Actually, TomTom does precisely as I describe for all units with firmware versions since 7, and I would not be surprised if Garmin does the same with their road navigation units. As long as the unit is attempting to road-snap, the TomTom will display the road-snapped set of coordinates (90 degrees vs the nearest road) for a fair little distance until it gives up and admits you're elsewhere (like a parking lot or an unmapped road, or having a little off-road fun) and begins to show the actual coordinates again. I know - it seems nuts to me, too. I have always believed the best known coordinates should be displayed, not the ones being used for assumptions about road location. FWIW - that's one of the very few downsides I see in the TomTom units (although a typical user would never know or care about it). The "pedestrian" mode does not release the road-snap feature - it just allows you to walk the wrong way on 1-way streets, etc. I believe the more recent Nuvi models will allow you to shut off road-snap altogether. The geocaching friendly units MUST do it. I assume "road-snap" is TT Speak for "lock on road". My Nuvi is a 780 and has no way of turning off "lock on road" unless I choose the navigation method "Off Road", but even then, that only applies while navigating, which I wasn't when I took the screen shots. But even assuming that it was "lock on road" causing the problem, this does not explain why the N co-ordinates were identical, but the W were off. There's actually a road about 50 feet South of the position I was in, and another about 200 West. So I'd have expected the N to be different if the "lock on road" was the explanation. But I think if I have time tomorrow I'll set up both gps in the car with a video camera on them to show if there is a difference in reported co-ordinates under normal conditions while on the road.

Not true! Many automotive nav units will road-snap by default in an attempt to maintain your position on a road in the event that there is (and there will be) errors between actual coordinates and the geolocation of the road from the map supplier. It's what keeps your unit from showing you off the road instead of on it when there are map/coordinate errors. I've heard that a few of the units (specifically, newer Garmin Nuvi units) will permit you to disable this feature for walking coordinates. I understand that but still a gps is not going to report co-ordinates which place you on the road - it might show you on the road in a map display but it's not going to lie in the co-ordinate display. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

It's not the T model, but we have 2 Oregon 550s with cameras and they are really easy to use, and give a decent picture as long as you keep your finger away from the camera lens. AMHIK Here's an example of a geotagged pic taken with my Oregon. This is the full picture taken by the Oregon - it's not a great camera, but it's pretty good.

Any chance that one of the two was road-snapped and the other was not? I'd put my money on the Nuvi being locked to the nearest road. It's configurable. Even if it was set to "Lock on road" surely it wouldn't report its location as relative to the road? I don't think you can set the Nuvi to not lock on road, anyway. Just checked and if you can, it's not obvious. Your reported location can't possibly be relative to a road. That would be ludicrous.

there's three that were off. ANYONE ELSE off with the 3.6 upgrade? I have a 550 and I think it's off as well. We tried one cache last weekend and couldn't find it at all, and now I'm wondering if this could be why. I walked around the back yard with a Nuvi and my Oregon and they sure weren't reporting the same location, though I had both in my same hand.

What about 3rd party locked maps? I might suggest a caution to people not to upgrade if they *bought* third party maps based on what I saw on some other forums, until the (3rd party locked) map authors updated their products. For those of you who've resisted updating Mapsource because of the locked 3rd party maps issue, or who might have upgraded and lost access to locked maps altogether, this might help: Mapsource Reverse Converter Here's a bit of the description from the site: When you install City Navigator Europe NT (or a nüMaps Lifetime update for this map), MapSource 6.15.x will be installed too. 6.15.x is much slower than 6.13.7; on an older PC it might even be unworkable (not to mention the ugly distortion of the maps). The problem is that MapSource 6.13.7 cannot use these maps, because the files have a new format (actually the same as RoadTrip for Mac OS X uses). MapReverseConverter is an universal program, not only for City Navigator Europe NT, but for any map in the new format. -------------------

I used both my 60CSx and Oregon side by side a few times during the first three months I owned the Oregon and didn't see any difference in accuracy or lock on sats when under cover.