etarace

Iko Iko. Oh you broke it. Now my reply and wimseguy's don't look like they make sense. At least mine is spelled correctly. And... kind of applicable to the topic. And a pretty fun game.

Good to know, I hope you sent my love. No! Definitely not! Teeth are hard and sometimes sharp and pointy. You might really hurt your hand by doing that. That IS pretty laugh-worthy. I had to google it now. (googlegooglegoogle) That's even funnier.

It's basically a multi-virtual. The "proof" is that each stage has a question that will only mark as "found" when you get the answer correct. I ... sort of.... agree with you. I feel like I haven't found a cache until I take out my red pen and sign a log. I have two EarthCaches very close to me in a park I go to probably at least once per week for the past five years. I have never logged either of them, even though I've been in the coordinate locations several times. Both of them ask a question that requires sitting at my computer to determine the difference between a bog and a fen and which one this location is (I don't recall the other question). Personally I believe one of the two lakes is one, and one is the other. Another is a virtual that asks "what is the object and how did it get here?" Both are beautiful places I have gone many times and will continue to go with my dog. I may never send in my answers or log them. But, the way I play geocaching (which is just like opinions and other things) I like a nice hike. I like somewhere I can take my dog and run around in the woods. I like to be shown something cool that I never knew about before. So, signing the log shouldn't be so important to a "find" really. But yeah, it just doesn't feel like I "found" a geocache without having the log.

If you do it from the couch, it can still be interesting/educational. It is what you make of it. If you do it in real life, it can still be boring/whiny/stupid. It is what you make of it. I personally would love to do all of these in person/real life. Check out the quests before you go, you can log them after. It's a lot of going to parks and looking at monuments kind of thing. I could see a 9-year-old boy hating it. I know there are kids who would love it. The missions/quests/whatever ask you to count things and record "what 3 letters are in the circle" ... it is stuff where a three year old can participate, and also the focus required for counting or finding the circle might help stave off some of the sweaty/whiny/stupid of standing and looking at big, old things for kids. They are all "space" themed parks, in keeping with the movie theme. As I said before, check out what the missions ARE before you go to the park. Have a little piece of paper with the four simple questions listed. Write your answers there, and log when you get home. As soon as you get to the right park, I'm pretty sure you don't need coordinates to get to the objects. Just make note of what they are on your question paper. I think having a smart phone to log your find at the places would be distracting to a "family" experience. But maybe I'm just getting old and persnickety. FYI, you will not find a "treasure box" at these parks. You will find pieces of art and science, which are definitely treasures. I just wanted to be sure you weren't going with some kids hoping to find a regular geocache.

Yay! Thank you for sharing that story! We hear and do a lot of complaining so it is nice to hear such a genuine and happy tale. I'm finding old caches cute too, and I think about planning a trip to my hometown ... ... ... primarily to find some caches hidden in 2000. My sister can think it is to visit her.

PlayerName 1 finds Found it! Never found the stupid thing. There really is no trail.

While a CO might choose to interpret it that way, that's not the only possible conclusion. We can't read minds. It's unfortunate when a CO chooses to view this in the most negative way possible, but it is a choice. If I put out a puzzle, I fully expect that there will be a finder, quite possibly claiming first, who doesn't solve it and admits this in the log. While I might have an opinion about him and his choice of methods for playing, it does not reflect on how awesome my cache would be. So, while it may be rude and lazy on the finder's part, I think that anyone hiding caches has come to expect a certain amount of people who are finding all caches to "clear the area" or "get the D/T rate" or whatever other competition in their own minds.

You "can" as in "are able to" log a trackable at a DNF, and I may in fact get a TB to log my "personal DNF miles" now that you mention it. There are some farther away DNF's that I won't get back to, so it would be kind of cool to have it for that or for those multiple-return-trip DNF's. But, if it is somebody else's trackable... I wouldn't log it as visiting a DNF unless it's just a really cool location anyway and especially if you can give pictures.

A proper letterbox gives some sort of non-GPS instructions for finding the cache, but many people just place traditionals with stamps. Thank you for that clarification. The one that I found had dead-on coordinates, so it's good to know that this is not typically the case (and perhaps avoid them). My only other experience with them is that people tend to find "the letterbox" that is "nearby" instead of the actual geocache. The multi I have done, and the others I have seen are somewhat poorly done. Coordinates are hazy and/or waypoints are not maintained. Don't get me wrong, the one I did was fun and interesting despite these facts. But many of the others I have seen didn't appear to be fun and/or interesting enough to overcome the unintentional difficulty.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/12/us-usa-newmexico-fossil-idUSKBN0EN1Z520140612 A bachelor party found a mastodon skull at a lake in New Mexico which is popular for boating, hiking, fishing and other outdoor activities. I've found my share of present-day animal bones while hiking or geocaching, but wouldn't it be amazing to find a fossil!? The closest I have come is Petoskey stones While living in Alaska I got some fossilized mastodon ivory earrings. Everyone was very nonchalant about it, acting as if they just trip over they things on the tundra. In ten years I never tripped over one. Have any of you ever found something from another era?

I don't get your point, as it isn't really applicable to the poniesandrainbows guy. These are offensive-to-English-speaking cacher names are showing up on logs in primarily-English-speaking areas. None of the regenbogen cachers you mentioned have logged caches in primarily-German-speaking-areas. I've pointed out previously that different languages and different cultures with the same language will have different slang and offensive terms. There could be a Zulu cache called "Ahole" at Dingiswayo's grave, honoring the leadership he brought to the young nation. That should not be offensive. As a family friendly game, a parent wouldn't really want to hear his 7 year old say "hey Daddy, butt-rainbow found our cache today!"

Ohhhh.... I've looked at a couple of those and they made my head want to explode so I have never done one yet.

I have logged two puzzles so far, and for one I know I didn't do it the way the CO "wanted" me to do it. However, I did put a lot of work into it. The first part of the puzzle was the number "X" on plaque "A" ... the problem is, there were two different plaques within 15 feet of each other, listing different numbers for X. So, I made an educated guess since it could really only be one of two numbers. The next part was a phone number in a different location. The coordinates for the "phone number" plaque were listed incorrectly in the waypoint portion, putting you on the wrong side of the river. I searched all over at those coordinates. I investigated anything I could find online that mentioned this "buried stream" and went to one of the places that the puzzle/multi did NOT list (however I assumed that was where I was supposed to go for the phone number). Eventually I used Google street view to find the plaque with the phone number after obtaining the correct coordinates. I got the final that afternoon. This was over the course of many months and several visits to different places that I may or may not have needed to have gone for the puzzle. I researched a lot of it, and I learned a lot, and I found it all really interesting. I technically "cheated" on parts of it, but I enjoyed the interesting history that I learned and was happy to log my find. Had I simply obtained the location of the final (which was a magnetic key holder on a guard rail) it would have been so lame, and I would not have done that. There is another pvc pipe "monkey puzzle" near me. If I can get my husband to come with me and if he solves it, I will absolutely log that as a find. I spent hours with dogs going insane across the street on that one already.

A few people have mentioned them, so I have to ask: why all the hate for Letterboxes? In my area they are basically a traditional with a rubber stamp inside. Am I doing them wrong? Also, I like the yellow for multi's.

Found It! I came across this thread at the top of Geocaching Topics discussions. My third post on this rainy day while my Beloved Husband continues to refuse to do the Experience Cortland Geo-Tour with me. My duckling is waddling around in mud puddles in the driveway. I left the window open on my Jeep. That's one more post for me! Moving up on the list of people not understanding what the OP is talking about leaderboard! TN/LN/SL/TFTT (thanks for the topic)

This is true. I have been planning a multi / field puzzle cache for about six months. I visit the areas each season to ensure it will be do-able year round. I'm making extra sure my coordinates are on, and that the puzzle is accurate. I think it will be really cool and show people some neat spots they would not have otherwise seen. But if some idiots who don't even validate their email addresses can come along and steal one stage and leave the final uncovered or ravaged... it really makes me hesitate to put so much work out to be destroyed. I know, that's another topic... but it all comes back to the attitude of "Those People" with disposable accounts and disposable regard for the game.

That is a myth propagated by Oprah Winfrey. Even if, in one language it means "lady parts" that phrase still has the word "lady" in it. The word "squaw" itself is not offensive, but has been used in or taken in a derogatory way; so it has come to take on the denotation of the connotation. If a British man skins a fag he faces the consequences of stained fingers, yellow teeth, premature wrinkles. In America it's a hate crime. I think the caches mentioned by 4wheelin fool were placed by adults having some juvenile fun with the fact that they can "get away with" saying a swear in a cache name. Yes, even the ones in languages other than English. I think a lot of people finding it have a juvenile giggle over having found such caches. The cache owners can say "but it's really a creek" or "it's really a village" ... What can this new cacher say? "But I really abuse ponies"?

I absolutely LOVE that the first response to this topic was a lamp skirt hide. I had looked for one and could not get it. Later that day, found one that was called "an old rusty cover" or something like that. In the holes of the old, rusty cover I could see the cache, and it was only then that I learned that those things just lift right up! The one that haunted my dreams was the one closest to my home. For a while, I was stopping by every day before or after work .. or both. It was AMAZINGLY well camouflaged and in such thick forest that the gps would start going wacky. I sent the CO an email accusing her of putting a Home Again microchip into a local squirrel and calling that a micro in a host. I began to write increasingly insane DNF logs. Eventually, somebody who found it before me took pity on my plight and emailed me a one word hint. With that single word, I went out to the vicinity of the cache and it was so obvious. The good part is now I can fairly easily spot those amazingly well camouflaged caches deep in the woods. The bad part is I overlook the film canisters and make most hides harder than they need to be in my own mind.

except she now lives in nunavut

It's a cute idea, but you made your surprise a little "public" here. I think your best bet for a co-conspirator would be Kathy. Maybe have her put out a "fake" ammo can for people to "really" find (and log) and then swap it out before you guys arrive?

ico

I had a Geo Metro 3 cylinder convertible when I lived in Bush Alaska and I went through some of the absolute worst terrain in that vehicle. It was also "the car" in the driveway that would start without fail even on the coldest morning.

+1

I do not like the "numbers game" either. To some extent, I understand where you come from. However... You did win a "battle". You've said a couple times how the sites you have a specific problem with, and emailed have removed your name. Yay! You go on to state that "everybody" knows that the big blank spot is you. No. No we don't. The only people who "know" that the big blank spot is you would know even if you were omitted from the leaderboard entirely. In other words, these are people who are watching the numbers anyway; the numbers are important to them, and you are a familiar name with high numbers. I don't go to the leaderboards, but I know who are the big-number-people in my area. I am not numbers-oriented, but you do tend to notice the number beneath the avatar on logs. You do tend to notice "oh hey, I sure see that flask person on a LOT of caches I do". I definitely am not competing with you, but I am silently cheering for you to reach your own personal next milestone. Other people will always be in competition. If we didn't have the numbers below our avatars, there would be people who would go to cache pages and count individual finds. The numbers game is just that important to some people. So yes, the only way to not be involved in "the numbers game" is to not play at all.

It seems like somebody on 21 July 2012 shared your hypothesis: Yet people found it before and after him. Somebody found it just a month before you. That looks like a fairly remote area, and it has only been one week since you logged your attempt. Give it a little more time. Most people wouldn't waste the time and gas to drive out to the lake to make sure a thing the size of a kitty toe-pad is still stuck on a guardrail that gets visited half a dozen times per year. Maybe you're right, maybe the guardrail (or whatever) is new. But maybe you're looking for a magnetic key-holder when you should be looking for a nano smaller than a dime. Those can be maddening the first time.