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I meant also to include that if I did find someone to adopt the cache, I would then send a note to the geocaching.com sysadmins, cc'ing the adopting party on the email of what we were doing, and request that the 'ownership' and count of the cache be transferred. Yeah, that would reduce my 'Cache placed' count, but then, that's what happens if it's my choice to let someone adopt it. Counts are important to a LOT of people, but responsibility and ownership needs to come first. I had read recently of a cache where it container had disappeared, but a copy of a dirty magazine had been found in the cache location. I'd be mortified if that had happened to a family on my cache site, but I wasn't able to do anything about it due to being 1,000 miles away.

I really can't see any harm in adopting a cache where the previous owner has moved on -and has publicly let it be known that he has moved. At that point, the cache is unmanaged and isn't maintained unless by the tireless efforts of the community of the area cachers. It may be a matter of pride for the original cache placer that "the cache was the first cache placed in the state of >". I strongly feel that if he has moved on, he should have appealed to the locals to see if they would do the honor of adopting it, instead of abandoning it -prior to moving on. Due to the impact on the economy, and the nonstop process of companies merging, I myself might find myself in the very same predicament. That being the case, I will at that time ask my fellows if they will do me the honor and adopt them. The remaining caches not adopted would be archived to preserve the counts of everyone who had visited them. I'd also send an broad email for each cache to all of it's visitors to each cache to let them know that the unadopted caches was going to be archived, and to thank them for their visit, time, and efforts (which also might bring forward a volunteer to adopt it). A couple of days prior to picking the cache up, I would archive the cache page, and post a note that it was being removed due to moving, and post a note on the cache log a copy of the emailed note to each cacher thanking them again for their visit. (In case their email didn't get through). It's what cache ownership and management is all about.

I really can't see any harm in adopting a cache where the previous owner has moved on -and has publicly let it be known that he has moved. At that point, the cache is unmanaged and isn't maintained unless by the tireless efforts of the community of the area cachers. It may be a matter of pride for the original cache placer that "the cache was the first cache placed in the state of >". I strongly feel that if he has moved on, he should have appealed to the locals to see if they would do the honor of adopting it, instead of abandoning it -prior to moving on. Due to the impact on the economy, and the nonstop process of companies merging, I myself might find myself in the very same predicament. That being the case, I will at that time ask my fellows if they will do me the honor and adopt them. The remaining caches not adopted would be archived to preserve the counts of everyone who had visited them. I'd also send an broad email for each cache to all of it's visitors to each cache to let them know that the unadopted caches was going to be archived, and to thank them for their visit, time, and efforts (which also might bring forward a volunteer to adopt it). A couple of days prior to picking the cache up, I would archive the cache page, and post a note that it was being removed due to moving, and post a note on the cache log a copy of the emailed note to each cacher thanking them again for their visit. (In case their email didn't get through). It's what cache ownership and management is all about.

They look spiffy, trendy, and are about as expensive. We used to call these CB's 25yrs ago. You just now don't need a fcc license.

I believe that's Wasabe. Now I'm having sushi withdrawls. I live for the green stuff at times!

I concur w/ JamieZ. Skydiving into a cache IS in my opinion a bit extreme, though there has been one or two caches that I've hit that I sure wouldn't have minded popping smoke, getting a dustoff, and an evac by helo though!

I concur w/ JamieZ. Skydiving into a cache IS in my opinion a bit extreme, though there has been one or two caches that I've hit that I sure wouldn't have minded popping smoke, getting a dustoff, and an evac by helo though!

I also tried to propagate the use of the Golden Dollar into the economy -by driving it home the hard way. I went on a 2 week vacation to the Florida Keys in y2000 (Sadly, before I got into Geocaching) and took $1000 of the things with me -just for the fun of it. Now going on an extended vacation w/11 kids is something that has to be logistically planned -believe me! The hotels and meals were paid for on the credit cards, but visiting the merchants and paying for everything with the GDs was quite enlightening. Most had not thought out how they were going to store them in the register, as the 'extra' slot was generally for rolled lower denomination coins. Many just dumped them under the till with the larger bills. I overheard at one establishemnt that we frequented... "Hey bob, he's back again!"

I also tried to propagate the use of the Golden Dollar into the economy -by driving it home the hard way. I went on a 2 week vacation to the Florida Keys in y2000 (Sadly, before I got into Geocaching) and took $1000 of the things with me -just for the fun of it. Now going on an extended vacation w/11 kids is something that has to be logistically planned -believe me! The hotels and meals were paid for on the credit cards, but visiting the merchants and paying for everything with the GDs was quite enlightening. Most had not thought out how they were going to store them in the register, as the 'extra' slot was generally for rolled lower denomination coins. Many just dumped them under the till with the larger bills. I overheard at one establishemnt that we frequented... "Hey bob, he's back again!"

I from time to time drop these into microcaches, or otherwise small cache sites. As a coin collector, they really aren't worth much right now other than face value, but scarcity is the issue. In y2000 they stamped out about .5Billion of these coins. In y2001 they reduced the mint's output to @60Million. So far in y2002 they've stamped about a million out early in January -and haven't made any more since. The 2002's are what we call 'Sleepers' and will be worth something, but only about 20+ years from now. Someone on a prior post mentioned that they kept Susan B's which were minted in 1979, 80, and 81 -but only a few million were stamped out in '99 when the post office needed some for their machines. Those are 'sleepers' too!

I've lamenated some geo docs on the outside of "Salvo's Reserves" GC61D7. I'll let you know how it holds up to Bugs, Rain, Cold, and Sunlight.

Wow! 909 Caches in the immediate 100 mile area. I wonder where our densest cache area is in the US? It must be very nice when they are that close together!

Wow! A drive In cache!! (Prev Posting above)

I'd like to pass on my sincere appreciation as well Jeremy to you and your staff of hardworking volunteers. Where else can you get an education on navigational skills, exercise, see new places that we otherwise would have never knew existed, and greet/meet/and associate with a world full of classy individuals with similar intrests (and not to mention a fondness and liking for inexpensive goodies)! If anyone else had tried to do this, without your vision and drive, I doubt it would be as much fun!

I'd like to pass on my sincere appreciation as well Jeremy to you and your staff of hardworking volunteers. Where else can you get an education on navigational skills, exercise, see new places that we otherwise would have never knew existed, and greet/meet/and associate with a world full of classy individuals with similar intrests (and not to mention a fondness and liking for inexpensive goodies)! If anyone else had tried to do this, without your vision and drive, I doubt it would be as much fun!

One doesn't ALWAYS have to be the first in the party down the trail. Let someone else take point for a while, and let them deal with the snakes -if they also do not share this issue. I agree in that knowing more about them helps to relieve the anxiety about them. Being prepared to cope with the encounter of one (good or bad) will strengthen you.

One doesn't ALWAYS have to be the first in the party down the trail. Let someone else take point for a while, and let them deal with the snakes -if they also do not share this issue. I agree in that knowing more about them helps to relieve the anxiety about them. Being prepared to cope with the encounter of one (good or bad) will strengthen you.

This has been a discussion point (offline) for us out here in Memphis. Sometimes just slightly moving the cache 15 to 25 feet from the original coords and reposting the new coords can help lessen the environmental impact. We as cache owners have the responsibility of these caches, and should periodically check on the sites for impact and make our own decision to either move it slightly or not. Who wants a blazed trail to their cache? (Unless it's through poison ivy/oak, then please ...BLAZE AWAY!!!)

This has been a discussion point (offline) for us out here in Memphis. Sometimes just slightly moving the cache 15 to 25 feet from the original coords and reposting the new coords can help lessen the environmental impact. We as cache owners have the responsibility of these caches, and should periodically check on the sites for impact and make our own decision to either move it slightly or not. Who wants a blazed trail to their cache? (Unless it's through poison ivy/oak, then please ...BLAZE AWAY!!!)

I also savor the journey and the hunt for a cache, and occassionally I get surprised with a nice sparkly treat. But it is really worth your while to look over all of the contents of a cache -and the location, instead of just signing the log and running off. I had recently reset out one of my caches: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=25047 I let everyone know that it was Y2K themed, and I seemed to get a good response from everyone. Though the cache itself was literally packed, everyone missed the surprise treat I had unlisted, but was in the cache for the first day release only :a 1/10 ounce US $5 Gold coin. They did find the 10 oz Johnson Matthey ,999 Silver Bar though!

I also savor the journey and the hunt for a cache, and occassionally I get surprised with a nice sparkly treat. But it is really worth your while to look over all of the contents of a cache -and the location, instead of just signing the log and running off. I had recently reset out one of my caches: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=25047 I let everyone know that it was Y2K themed, and I seemed to get a good response from everyone. Though the cache itself was literally packed, everyone missed the surprise treat I had unlisted, but was in the cache for the first day release only :a 1/10 ounce US $5 Gold coin. They did find the 10 oz Johnson Matthey ,999 Silver Bar though!

Count us in. There will be @12 of us -if we all can make it (older kids work, and the mid-younger ones do a lot of church work). I think I remember seeing the necessary setups for a picnic day at the lake just east and south of the main parking lot on the point. Gil could you verify that on your upcoming visit to Lake Parson's?

Count us in. There will be @12 of us -if we all can make it (older kids work, and the mid-younger ones do a lot of church work). I think I remember seeing the necessary setups for a picnic day at the lake just east and south of the main parking lot on the point. Gil could you verify that on your upcoming visit to Lake Parson's?

A fabulous first find for a first time geocacher! What a great way to start into Geocaching!

A fabulous first find for a first time geocacher! What a great way to start into Geocaching!