thomfre

It's still possible to create new lists through the old page. This link takes you directly to the page where you create a new list: https://www.geocaching.com/bookmarks/edit.aspx

I could, but they wouldn't be geocaching trips anymore now would they ? Of course they would, as long as you find other caches along the road, or the YOSM doesn't get archived.

How would the numbers be if we look at unique cachers? And if they consist of "700 separate virtuals", like some claimed earlier here. They're not the most active caches in their respective countries anymore. Then it's just "1400 virtuals", with not that many finds per cache.

My first guess is that you're using c:geo. c:geo automatically change the language to English.

Are they only the two most active caches in the world because everyone logs them hundreds of times per customer? They are not the two most active caches in the world. That would be GC189E5 and GC13Y2Y.

If you care about your Find count, you will watch for accidently duplicate logs yourself. If someone else doesn't pay enough attention to their logs to notice their find count is off, it clearly doesn't mean that much to them so why should I care? You took a tiny part of my response to something else, and took it out of context. I care about my find count, and I make sure it's correct. If you don't care about your find count, I couldn't care less

Just like leaving the EU sounds like something clever to do? Let's get back to discussing geocaching

It will STILL BE grandfathered. You just have to accept the fact that you can't break the "one cache - one find" rule anymore.

I've never said that. But doing other things that are crazy, doesn't suddenly make it ok to do everything that's crazy...

Event owners may still log attended on their own events. See the announcement from Groundspeak: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=343632

+1 It would be crazy of Groundspeak to use time on coding support for breaking the rules on 0,000679903‰ of the active caches in the world.

You may call it what you want. The description states that it's movable. The official "ignored in statistics"-bookmarklist states that it's working like a disguised locationless. So did locationless caches. They have been archived. The cache is grandfathered, yes. Incorrectly in my opinion, but still grandfathered. And it still will be. It won't be archived. It can still be found. Just not more than once. Like every other cache.

It might not be a secret, but it's not public either. But judging by how slow people are to read information, it might not be a problem anyway. People are still asking why their app is not working...

Okay, converted then.

How is that relevant? They're only logged once per cache...

Or this site, made for logging exactly what you want: http://trigpointing.uk/

This was communicated to API partners to give them time to adapt their apps. And I'm very thankful that Groundspeak did that! It was communicated on Facebook by the Norwegian reviewers (with a strange date) before the email was sent to the partners. I guess it's possible that Groundspeak thought that a change like this *could* lead to mass logging own caches and duplicate finds from now and until the announced date. And therefore the general public won't be notified before after the change is in effect.

Fair point. But that makes it worse in my opinion. Locationless caches was archived and moved to Waymarking a long time ago...

I tried asking this question: are there really no other caches to find near the survey monuments? I'm trying to understand why this one cache is so much more important than the ~3 million other caches. And even if we say it's important, which it clearly is to some people. Why not just be glad that it gets to live, and log a note for all consecutive finds after the first one? It's easy to compare this cache to benchmarks (which can be logged as a separate, non-counting, type). I've found a couple benchmarks, when finding the caches near them. But I'm not upset that it doesn't give me another smiley. If you want the counter, I guess adapting yosm.org.uk to handle counting of write notes, isn't that hard. Then you can get to keep your stats, keep the cache alive, and still follow the rules of geocaching.com. Edit: you could also start using Waymarking: http://www.Waymarking.com/cat/details.aspx?f=1&guid=15f76a9a-f6df-4d1a-af0d-a7446a8406fd

No they are not. Garmin is as it's their problem. Yes, they are. Together with Garmin. Yes, the marketing team plans to communicate this out as soon as it is ready. Note that we are working on wrapping up a final few issues with Garmin and it looks like the release will be a bit later than we were planning - probably mid- to late-April.

Looking at the total number of favorites, without looking at the find count, is not any better than treating a cache with 1 find/1 FP as the top of the list... You need to look at both. With that many finds, 3%, 21% or 25% as geocaching.com states (basic members excluded), still isn't very much.

Normally, moving caches aren't allowed

I do not care how often someone logs such a cache however it is a locationless cache and not a virtual. Have you ever looked into the concept of locationless caches which existed in the early years of gc.com? Actually, it's a moving cache...

If it's not done for the numbers, why not just post a note? The cache will still be findable (but you only get one smiley). Are there really no other caches to find near the survey monuments? I'm trying to understand why this one cache is so much more important than the ~3 million other caches.

No...then those discussions will become "why won't it let me log my own cache?" threads. True... At least those are a lot easier to answer...