NW_history_buff
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In my travels this past year, I've come across three rock gardens which were designated as 'Rock Gardens.' I tried to find a current category that these might fit into but the closest two categories I could find were Rock and Mineral Displays and Sculpture Gardens (some of these rocks are sculptures). Two of the rock gardens I visited were basically individual rocks that were native to the area and and artistically placed among native plants to form a garden open to the public to walk through. These rocks didn't contain interpretive or educational displays that are required in the Rocks and Minerals Displays category. One rock garden contained actual rock sculptures but there were other types of rocks in non-sculptural displays.
I'm wondering if there are enough worldwide locations of designated rock gardens to justify a category of its own?
Thoughts?
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A Fraternal Order of Eagles category has been created and a writeup done. Feel free to read it for any thoughts, suggestions and other feedback:
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I've created a group, Fraternal Order of Eagles. Anyone is welcome to join, I need one more officer to create a category.
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As I said in my first post, the only drawback to this potential category is the fact that it's centralized to the U.S.A. and Canada. But I don't think that this should be a deterrent for moving forward. There are many existing categories that are centralized to one part of the world (a couple of categories only available in Europe were approved in the past couple of months). The Fraternal Order of Eagles (F.O.E.) has a long history, a great mission and have over 1,500 current chapters, not including hundreds former chapters that are found in many historic buildings around North America.
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I've been toying with the idea of proposing a category for the Fraternal Order of Eagles (F.O.E.) which traces its beginnings to Seattle, WA (home of Groundspeak!). In my travels the past few years, I've come across some historic buildings that were/are home to F.O.E. My own hometown contains a building which at one time housed a F.O.E. chapter. Each chapter is known as an 'Aerie' (like a bird's nest) and are located throughout the U.S.A. and Canada. Although Aeries are limited to these two countries, I feel they are still a viable candidate for inclusion in the Waymarking community based off their history, fraternal mission and the fact that they founded Mother's Day in America! Other major accomplishments this organization has had over the years:
- Served as driving force in founding Social Security Program
- Helped end age-based job discrimination with the "Jobs After 40" Program
- Distributed Ten Commandments monoliths
- Fought to keep Ten Commandment monoliths in public places
The following text is taken off the F.O.E. website to describe its history:
The F.O.E. was founded in February, 1898 by six theatre owners gathered in a Seattle shipyard to discuss a musician's strike. After addressing the matter, they agreed to "bury the hatchet" and form "The Order of Good Things." As numbers grew, members selected the Bald Eagle as the official emblem and changed the name to "The Fraternal Order of Eagles." The women's auxiliary traces its roots to 1927.
F.O.E. membership exceeds 800,000, with more than 1,500 local Aeries in the U.S. and Canada. Women's auxiliaries total more than 1,300. Members are recruited by other members and must be sponsored by two members before the membership process begins.
Motto: People Helping People
The 1,500 Aeries don't include the former Aeries that existed in towns and cities across America and Canada. My category proposal would also include former and current Aeries and would follow the same format and style as other current Meeting Houses (Odd Fellow Lodges, Masonic Temples, Grange Halls, Elks Lodges, Legion Posts and Branches, VFW Posts, Moose Lodges and Centers, Knights of Pythias, AMVETS and Knights of Columbus categories).
Thoughts? Suggestions?
- Served as driving force in founding Social Security Program
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I like the idea of delicatessens but only as Independent Delicatessens. The commercial chain type of delis do not appeal to me. I feel it's still a viable category for those smaller, mom and pop type delis that I come across in my travels and many have been in business for many decades as family-run establishments.
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I worked on some icons, let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
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Watercraft Rentals (Human Powered)I think all of them look great! Good job
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Looks like the Static Artillery category accepts torpedoes.
I'll give it a shot. Thanks
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Frustrating, huh? There has to be other Naval artillery equipment like the torpedoes that also don't have a home. That's why I was proposing a category to include these if the existing categories won't accept them.
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I was surprised to have a recent waymark submission (submarine torpedo static display) denied in the Military Ground Equipment Displays category for the reason:
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Torpedos and other naval equipment do not fall into "Military Ground Equipment Displays" as these were never operated from the Ground, only from ships and aircraft. At present there is no category I can see which would include torpedoes. You might like to consider starting an appropriate category, or contacting the members of the "Military Ships and Submarines (Decommissioned)" group to see if they have any suggestions.
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There currently exists a category for Static Aircraft Displays. There is also a category dedicated to Artillery, Howitzers, and Cannons in the Static Artillery Displays. There is NO category that exists for Naval artillery displays which would include torpedoes and other naval artillery equipment. The Military Ships and Submarines (Decommissioned) category might be willing to include naval military equipment/displays in their category but if they don't I propose a new category.
Thoughts?
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I have come across a few timelines in my travels, usually located on interpretive displays and other placards, plaques or markers. The only reservation I have is if they might fall under the 'Signs of History' category? If they can be proven to be separate and a dedicated category in their own right then I'm all for it.
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Not sure where to post this question,so I'll try here........can anyone tell me how to find benchmarks in Germany? We are going over there for the Giga event and I'm working on a Challenge cache where I will need a benchmark. I see the page to search for benchmarks by zipcode, but not sure how to do this in Germany. Any help will be appreciated........thanx
There just happens to be a category devoted to all benchmarks from Germany:
Good luck with it!
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Why the heck not. Although it seems a large number of Waymarkers aren't keen to the idea of another retail chain category, I personally think there's a place for them. Possibly a new rule would be that you have to have personally patronized the Chipotle in order to waymark it? That would separate the drive-by waymarkers from the more determinesd ones. There are many worldwide and American retail restaurants and businesses that don't have categories (K-Mart, Walgreens, Rite-Aid, Krispy Kreme, Circle-K, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, Lowe's and Home Depot just to name a few). Chipotle Restaurants are an up-and-coming retail chain and have some great dishes.
I'm game!
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I read another thread and Bruces posted that you can still access Google Maps in the lower left corner of the page when viewing a Waymark. It's inconvenient but at least it pops up a new Google Maps window for officers to check proper coordinates of Waymark submissions before accepting/denying them.
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Did Groundspeak forget to pay the Google Maps bill and now we have to suffer with MapQuest?
MapQuest views sure makes it more difficult to approve waymarks since local landmarks and businesses don't even show up and there's no 3D mode to switch to.
Sigh.
I hope this is short-lived?
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Congrats! It's been a pleasure approving many of your Waymark submissions and the fact that you put so much time and effort into them to make them look professional and educational only adds to their value. I wish other waymarkers who concentrate on quantity and not quality would take heed to your style of Waymarking.
Stay out of Oregon! That's MY turf! (joke... but not really).
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60-100 mile bike rides??? You animal!!
God speed, brother.
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I enjoy benchmark hunting too. I also have been following this related thread.
It's too bad no one in that thread reached out to any of the officers of the U.S. Benchmarks category for guidance. The leader, ernmark, is highly knowledgeable in 'All Things Benchmarking' (more than I am) and could have given much advice and input to the reporter (he's located in Philadelphia, so not too far from her either). I was glad to know shorbird took her out for a day of benchmarking, his benchmark submissions are the best quality since he goes to the trouble of putting talc powder on the disks which really make the stamping stand out, capturing every dent and scratch on the disk.
We avid benchmarkers are also a little weary of increasing the popularity of the hobby because unfortunately, the worry of 'shady' individuals who end up compromising very old and historic marks by stealing or damaging them is always out there.
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You've done your research! Well done! I'm all for it since it looks to be a very educational category and the fact that they exist all over the world is an added bonus. I guess the only challenge is making sure the posted coordinates are in a place that won't get duplicated somewhere else in a reserve since I'm assuming they encompass many square miles of land and water. Maybe follow the guidelines that other categories have in place for areas of large acreage?
You have my vote!
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As the leader of the Graves of Unusual Deaths category I would like to submit a perfect example of what the category is looking for:
François Boileau - Tours, Centre, France
Chickilim submitted pictures of a beautiful headstone of a gentleman who unfortunately died in a train derailment over a bridge in France in 1878. His headstone is intricately made to represent his cause of death. I've never seen anything like this anywhere. This new category needs added exposure in the Waymarking online community. I would love to see this submission represent what the category would like to see from others!
Doug
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But the citizen memorials are for people who have some significant impact on community. And memorials of sudden deaths are for normal, regular people who are known for the way they've died, not lived.
If the striking by the thunder was mentioned on the grave, it would match the 'Graves of Unusual Deaths' category. However, I can't remember seeing many of those in my region, mostly it's only mentioned on the grave that the death was 'unexpected'. More commons are such crosses in places where that death occurred.
Just so we're not beating a dead horse (American euphemism), if this marker is in fact an actual grave, by all means, the Graves of Unusual Deaths category would except your submission. Just because a grave noting an unusual death is not located in a cemetery doesn't exclude it from this new category. But if this marker is actually a memorial to this person and NOT a grave (the person is not buried under the marker), it belongs in either the Citizen Memorials category or the Disaster Memorials category. Let the category officers be the judges of which category to submit this to since they deal with these types of submissions much more regularly than we in the forums do. I hope this answers all questions.
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Floods, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc. are also 'natural occurances' and are accepted in the Disaster Memorials category. I just have a hunch that the officers of the Citizen Memorials would deny a lightening strike memorial and recommend the other.
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So to waymark places like that: http://www.Waymarking.com/waymarks/WMNQGV
I should create a new category?
I think it could make more sense to keep one category with the variable, is it a grave or a death marking, but of course, it's your decision
Can you submit this to Citizen Memorials?
Actually, I believe this would fit into the Disaster Memorials category since this was a result of a natural disaster.
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For all those comments in Peer Review regarding changing the title to 'Markers of Unusual Deaths', I still don't see a reason for this request. For one, those individuals may be confusing what the objective of this category of for: Waymarking gravesites which note an unusual cause of death. This category is NOT for Waymarking graves that might be unusual in size, appearance, shape or form. These types of graves were discussed already in the forums and it was decided that another category would be better for these instead of making this proposed category all-inclusive.
In addition, it was decided in the forums that any markers noting unusual deaths NEED to be from a gravesite and CANNOT be markers found anyplace else.
New Category Proposal: Rock Gardens
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Nice reply, GeoLog81. I agree, rock gardens should have their own category, much like Japanese Gardens and Rose Gardens have their own categories.
I'll start working on a group page and category writeup and post the links to them here since I've received enough positive feedback to move forward on this.