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K9 GEEP

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  1. Aha! Then the person whom you met from our team was my wife Sue. I did not attend the NoVaGo event, and, in fact, I have never attended any VA geo events, due in part to geopolitical boundary-based intellectual property clauses in my in my licensing agreement with Maryland Geocaching Society (MGS), whereby I am limited to public appearances only at MGS events and at national events and regional events in Michigan, Wisconsin and beyond. Its all legal mumbo-jumbo to me, but my agents track it for me. As Paris Hilton said to the judge the other day: "I don't read that stuff... I have people who read those things for me....!" :):o:o

     

    That is the problem <sarcasm I don't really mean it> with the husband and wife teams in the forums I never know who I am talking to.

    Good thing Mrs k9 never posts

    yes it was sue I met and she a lovely and polite lady<not sarcasm> and took great pride in showing off the interview <sarcasm again she was very modest about it.>

  2. "Most people (about 4 out of 5) who are infected with West Nile virus will not develop any type of illness (an asymptomatic infection), however you cannot know ahead of time if you'll get sick or not when infected."

     

    For all we know, most of us already had/have it. It's not a new thing, just now they know more about it. We been hearing about it for a couple of years now, and nothing has really changed. It's just about impossible for people to not get bitten by mosquitos, and there hasn't been any drastic outbreak happenning.

    Too many people just wasting our tax dollars, if they fed the homeless, they would save much more lives then they think there gonna save with this nonsense.

    Exactly! Thanks for pointing this out! Much the same is true for hantavirus up in my area! Reminds me of the silly "public health" hullaballo about "the dangers of radon gas" and the entire industry that has grown up around "radion remediation"! Sigh!

    are you going to tell me radon is not real? I just paid for a remediation in my new house. Please tell me I did not just buy some snake oil. :o

  3. I read the OP's post as being more about social behavior than about geocaching. I see little to no clique behavior here in Florida. Though naturally, folks that have been caching 3 or 4 years and have known each other over time are gathering in groups at events, and novices are a tad on the outside.

    Most events and event hosts work to create mixing and inclusion.

     

    But there's no hike/ anti-micro factions, and no cliques. I think you've just got a local phenomenon. I have seen cliques big time in the horse show circles. I suspect it has to do with local leadership. It can happen in any type of activity. Or NOT. I'm sorry you're experiencing it there.

    Much in alignment with the thoughts aired by Isonzo Karst above, I strongly suspect that the behavior you observed was very comonplace behavior commonly encountered in and across tens of thousands of venues each day, most of them located well outside the realm of geocaching (and certainly outside the realm of antio-micro discussions), and I suspect as well that the behaviors which you observed (i.e., temporarily ignoring a newcomer) had little or nothing to do with the content of the discusion which was underway at the time (i.e., loud, good-natured and boisterous derision of lame urban micros and of numbers-game-related behaviors) and rather, EVERYTHING to do with human nature and with patterns of human nature which have been observed and commented upon my social psychologists as well as by anthropologists and linguists (social linguists, that is) for over a hundred years. It is simply a fact of human nature and of some of the traits exhibited by most Western cultures that people who already know each other sometimes tend to cluster together and talk about topics which are intimately familiar to them. What you are railing about has little to do with the happenstance content of the conversation of that particular group of cachers that day, and rather, has a lot to do with behavior of humans when in the presence of others who are "in members" of their intimate linguistic community while temporarily excluding those persons who were as yet non-members of their intimate linquistic community. In fact, you can see the same behavior a hundred times an hour among audience members at any sports game frequented by "regulars" and in any bar or pub which is largely, but not solely, frequented by "regulars", meaning the inner "in" members of the intimate linquistic community.

     

    To the OP, sorry about this obvious attempt to pop your ballon (that is the thesis aired in your first post), but I was feeling particularly pompous this afternoon and felt an innate need, after reading your post and its assertions, to kinda reframe things in a much larger and more wholistic framework. In any case, it is also true that your observation of a single occurrence exhibited by these (your terms) old-line anti-lame-micro cachers hardly provides sufficient cause to generalize to the behaviors of all anti-lame-micro cachers at all events.

     

    BTW, I tend to also dislike lame urban micros (LUMS) and also MicroSpew, and I also tend to laugh with great joyous derision and amusement at the inane antics pulled by many higher-numbers (that is, over about 800 finds) geocachers (many of whom are geo-friends of mine and will continue to be so, by the way...), and yet, strangely, I have received several compliments from newcomers to caching at what they perceived as my warmth and inclusiveness to them at local geo events over the years. Go figure. According to your shaky thesis, I shoulda ignored those newcomers when they showed their faces at the event in question.

     

    :o:o

    I must agree that Vinny and Sue are warm people and very welcoming to newcomers at events...

     

    P.S. be sure to pick up the new book with a interview with Vinny and Sue I can not remember the name of it but it is a good read

    Aww! Thanks for the kind words! In order to better maintain the myth and legend of "Vinny, the bizarre reclusive extreme Psycho cache placer guy", I rarely attend geo-events (I limit myself to three or fewer per year on the advice of my Hollywood publicist), but I do remember meeting you at the Hagerstown pizza event. Thank you for coming over and speaking with me as I gorged myself on cheap high-carb pizza, and, if I recall corectly, your adult son later logged one or two of our Psycho caches, or at least sent us a note about them.

     

    And yes, the book was quite fun; it was called "Open Your Heart With Geocaching", and I have bumped the thread (here on the international GC forums) about the book in case anyone wishes to see that thread.

     

    :o:)

     

    Nope not me

    I think I met you at a novago event just a few weeks ago I had the small baby in the stroller I have no adult children (that I know of)

  4. I read the OP's post as being more about social behavior than about geocaching. I see little to no clique behavior here in Florida. Though naturally, folks that have been caching 3 or 4 years and have known each other over time are gathering in groups at events, and novices are a tad on the outside.

    Most events and event hosts work to create mixing and inclusion.

     

    But there's no hike/ anti-micro factions, and no cliques. I think you've just got a local phenomenon. I have seen cliques big time in the horse show circles. I suspect it has to do with local leadership. It can happen in any type of activity. Or NOT. I'm sorry you're experiencing it there.

    Much in alignment with the thoughts aired by Isonzo Karst above, I strongly suspect that the behavior you observed was very comonplace behavior commonly encountered in and across tens of thousands of venues each day, most of them located well outside the realm of geocaching (and certainly outside the realm of antio-micro discussions), and I suspect as well that the behaviors which you observed (i.e., temporarily ignoring a newcomer) had little or nothing to do with the content of the discusion which was underway at the time (i.e., loud, good-natured and boisterous derision of lame urban micros and of numbers-game-related behaviors) and rather, EVERYTHING to do with human nature and with patterns of human nature which have been observed and commented upon my social psychologists as well as by anthropologists and linguists (social linguists, that is) for over a hundred years. It is simply a fact of human nature and of some of the traits exhibited by most Western cultures that people who already know each other sometimes tend to cluster together and talk about topics which are intimately familiar to them. What you are railing about has little to do with the happenstance content of the conversation of that particular group of cachers that day, and rather, has a lot to do with behavior of humans when in the presence of others who are "in members" of their intimate linguistic community while temporarily excluding those persons who were as yet non-members of their intimate linquistic community. In fact, you can see the same behavior a hundred times an hour among audience members at any sports game frequented by "regulars" and in any bar or pub which is largely, but not solely, frequented by "regulars", meaning the inner "in" members of the intimate linquistic community.

     

    To the OP, sorry about this obvious attempt to pop your ballon (that is the thesis aired in your first post), but I was feeling particularly pompous this afternoon and felt an innate need, after reading your post and its assertions, to kinda reframe things in a much larger and more wholistic framework. In any case, it is also true that your observation of a single occurrence exhibited by these (your terms) old-line anti-lame-micro cachers hardly provides sufficient cause to generalize to the behaviors of all anti-lame-micro cachers at all events.

     

    BTW, I tend to also dislike lame urban micros (LUMS) and also MicroSpew, and I also tend to laugh with great joyous derision and amusement at the inane antics pulled by many higher-numbers (that is, over about 800 finds) geocachers (many of whom are geo-friends of mine and will continue to be so, by the way...), and yet, strangely, I have received several compliments from newcomers to caching at what they perceived as my warmth and inclusiveness to them at local geo events over the years. Go figure. According to your shaky thesis, I shoulda ignored those newcomers when they showed their faces at the event in question.

     

    :rolleyes::huh:

     

    I must agree that Vinny and Sue are warm people and very welcoming to newcomers at events

    That being said the first event I went to i had around 20 finds the event was a cito and as I helped clean i overheard others making fun of us for being there until I confronted them (in a nice way) and told them some of the finds I had made then all of a sudden they were very nice, at that point I did not even know about LPCs.

     

    P.S. be sure to pick up the new book with a interview with Vinny and Sue I can not remember the name of it but it is a good read

  5. Do most of you log DNFs or do you wait till you go back and find it and log it as found?Asking because I have not seen too many DNF logged.

    As a courtesy to the owner I post all my DNFs. (Just in case it's missing, etc.) Plus, it actually helps me keep track of ones I wait to go back to (did someone else find it after I DNF'd?).

    ditto

     

    I have seem to many people use the "Needs Maitenance' log only to go right behind them and find it

  6. I am certain that any thoughtful cacher visiting such a cache would cheerfully point out in a friendly manner that the container could use a little more durability. Might even offer to suggest a lock-lock.

    My log would read this container sucks and then I would take the container and make the hider so mad that they quit altogether

     

    want some kibble troll?

  7. I support discovering Geocoins, hence the reason for all the icons. I'm against discovering Travel Bugs, because the intention was always for them to travel, not be discovered. Geocoins would lose most of their appeal, if there weren't so many icons, but then Groundspeak would lose a nice revenue sourrce.

     

    The Discover option didn't become a 'necessity' until coins came along.

     

    Keep it for coins, lose it for bugs.

     

    edit: Oh, and if anyone says "I'm doing the owner a favor. It let's them know it's still in the cache" I'm going to throw up.

     

    I'm doing the owner a favor. It let's them know it's still in the cache

    Sorry could not resist

  8. So now you see that new cachers think that it is a very creative hide and are likely to put one out just like the 300 trillion that are already out there.

    I admit my first one was a 'lame' hide but the location I put it at enabled me to meet some other cachers.

    So if the 'lame' lampost hide has a purpose such as meeting people or showing a nice location is it still 'lame'?

    Flame on.

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