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  1. Has anyone reported no longer being able to delete a log on a trackable item? I was just contacted by a trackable item owner stating that they can not delete an erroneous log on their TB page. I cannot duplicate this because I do not own any trackable items in my non-reviewer account.

  2. As someone who has been put on a very short leash and having read about a number of high profile permanent vacations recently, I would like some clarification about what can or cannot be discussed.


    There are a few topics that have been forbidden for quite a while that recently some mods have stated are not forbidden. There is an app that has caused some ire for a lot of cache owners that is now questionable about whether or not we can discuss it.


    There are some recently rolled out website features that are problematic for a lot of users.


    Please don't ban me for asking this question. On the contrary, I would like to know what is safe and what is not safe. As it is, I am hesitant to give an opinion on anything anymore.

    The best case scenario in a community forum environment is for members of the community to answer the questions of others. As to this post, Pup Patrol offered this answer to the question posed by the OP:


    Two words previously forbidden and now generally allowed without promotional implication


    As to the immediate hijacking of the thread into a critique of Groundspeak asserting paranoia, Sol seaker answered with this:


    which includes one of the more profound statements in the topic - "It is important to keep a positive outlook in the forums, but in order to do that one must keep a positive outlook. You can't create positive with negative. It just doesn't work."


    There were numerous other positive comments and I beg forgiveness of those who made such posts that have not been referenced here. For brevity, I'll close with this post from thebruce0 which lists some forum behaviors that are best avoided:


    A good reference point


    With thanks to those whose helpful posts rose above the noise, this thread is being closed.

  3. What are you talking about? Your warn meter reflects three formal interactions with moderators. Two were in 2013 and involved Lackeys; the third one was recent and involved a volunteer moderator (me). Please describe specifically where your questions were not answered.

    With copious respect for my fellow moderator Keystone, I'm suggesting that in at least two of the three cases posting those discussions that were intended to be private would not be appropriate. Perhaps they can be discussed through email or a private topic.

    That was my point, to continue a private dialogue that was already underway rather than dragging it into this thread. I gave a thorough reply to J Grouchy quite recently via the private message thread that began with a "slap on the wrist" type of warning. I opened my reply by saying that I read his feedback "with great interest," which was true. I ended by saying "If you had any other specific concerns, I'd be happy to discuss them with you privately. Otherwise, please continue being a (usually) positive contributor to the forum community." There was no response to this invitation.


    Obviously I would not discuss the specifics of the issue which gave rise to the warning, but I did feel a need to defend myself against any implication that I was unresponsive to feedback.

    Well said, and I was unaware of the PM conversation.

  4. What are you talking about? Your warn meter reflects three formal interactions with moderators. Two were in 2013 and involved Lackeys; the third one was recent and involved a volunteer moderator (me). Please describe specifically where your questions were not answered.

    With copious respect for my fellow moderator Keystone, I'm suggesting that in at least two of the three cases posting those discussions that were intended to be private would not be appropriate. Perhaps they can be discussed through email or a private topic.

  5. OK, I'm going to go wayyy out on a limb here, but first I want to preface it by saying that I realize that the moderator/reviewer that took action is a very busy guy... but I have to ask why it took 37 posts to take action on this thread? http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=330275


    Should not a moderator have come in early-on and said, "OK, guys... enough fun. The OP asked a question, let's answer it." (either that, or more appropriately for that particular thread, move it to the Beginners area). http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=330275

    Out on a limb or not, it is a reasonable question accompanied by a bit of Monday morning quarterbacking. One should not assume that moderators operate in a vaccuum nor should one assume that we can look into the future to assess the accumulated impact of a series of posts.


    We are not going to be drawn into woulda coulda shoulda conversations about moderating actions. We're not taking the bait so please move on to something helpful and productive.

  6. "Non-members" are called muggles, BTW. :)


    I did not come here to be Trolled, yet to seek information.


    It's called having a sense of humor!

    Please understand that this response is not helpful and note that the target was not amused. We want people to come here to learn without the risk of being subjected to abuse.

  7. The primary issue that will be an obstacle for your idea is that the geocaching guidelines do not allow caches with an agenda or solicitation to be published.


    From the guidelines:


    "Geocaches do not solicit for any purpose. Cache listings perceived to be posted for religious, political, charitable or social agendas are not permitted. Geocaching is intended to be an enjoyable, family-friendly hobby, not a platform for an agenda."


    The quoted guideline text can be found here: http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx#solicitation


    Permit me to help explain this.


    Certainly autism awareness is a program that is doing great work, worthy of both recognition and support. However, as you go down the list of organizations starting with those doing great work, and then those who are doing good work, and then those who are doing fair or so-so work, and on to those who are held in a negative light by nearly everyone, serious problems become obvious. The primary problem is where do you draw the line, and who draws it?


    This is what is known as a slippery slope issue; once you start on the slope, it is hard to avoid slipping beyond where you wanted to be. Therefore, the answer is that we do not step on the slope at all.


    I regret that you might find this unhelpful, and hopefully you can find other methods to bring awareness to autism.



    Geocaching volunteer reviewer

  8. I am so glad we do not have a formal organization like this in Rhode Island.

    I've been around a while and have seen many geocaching organizations. My observation is that increasing the level of structure increases the level of drama in a directly proportional manner. The very loosely knit organizations (and communication mechanisms) have the least interpersonal conflict because the control oriented individuals can be easily ignored.

  9. A paragraph from Briansnat's post above:

    For those who dismiss this as a "local issue", as more and more agencies and land managers embrace geocaching it could become your problem too. When I was a reviewer in Utah, their state parks system had started placing their own caches. Often one of their submissions conflicted with an existing cache. I hesitated at first to send my "Sorry your cache is too close to another" note knowing that they could easily write back with "Sorry, the other cache has to go". They never did and simply found a different spot. I'm sure some agencies may not be as accommodating. That's why those of who are in areas with local geocaching organizations need for those organizations to advocate for US. Even if that means standing up for that guy who owns that micro which will cause them to have to skip .1 mile on their new geotrail.


    On the bolded part above,


    Briansnat, what might you have done if the the Utah state parks system insisted you archive the cache? I figure you would have to go along with their wish but, if they then submitted another cache in the same spot or general area,,, would you hestiate to publish it? Could you even deny publishment, if the cache met guidelines?


    Just curious..

    Briansnat can certainly respond if he wants, but in general please refrain from requesting site volunteers to respond to hypothetical situations. Reality is tough enough to deal with.

  10. Caching in a park is at the pleasure of the organization or individual who has stewardship responsibility for it. Property stewards are not required to recognize generally accepted geocaching ethics or etiquette. In this case it seems they are placing a higher priority on their current project than on respecting previously granted permission. Permission can always be withdrawn.


    Unless you can go over the head of the property stewards, which is politically unlikely, it will be best to pick up your cache and find another place to hide it.

  11. A contributing issue is the reluctance on the part of many cachers to place a needs archived log on caches that are in bad shape and are clearly not being maintained. No one wants to hurt the feelings of a cache owner but ignoring poorly maintained caches results in the situation you have mentioned, and that others talk about.


    I'm not suggesting writing need archived logs on every cache that you cannot find or that has a damp log book. But if there are repeated needs maintenance logs on the cache page, someone needs to escalate the issue. A needs archived log brings it to a reviewer's attention. If it turns out that a needs archived log has been posted in error, the reviewer can sort that out. And if a cache is archived in error, the reviewer can correct that.


    There is the special case of caches belonging to cachers who have been deployed for service outside the country. Reviewers will usually cut them a break and members of the community will often step in to repair or replace a cache that is in need.


    I hope this is helpful.

  12. For those who have unpublished caches in the works...please be aware that reviewers have been asked to archive unpublished caches which you have not edited or logged in 30 days.


    "This cache is being archived since it was disabled without being published, and has not been edited or logged for at least 30 days. Groundspeak has asked reviewers to do this to keep unpublished caches from overloading the active database of caches. You can request for this cache to be unarchived, but it is generally easier to just start from scratch with a new cache page."

    Could you please tell us how that misinformation was communicated? I'm a reviewer and have never received any such direction from Groundspeak.


    Thank you.

  13. Until a couple of weeks ago, my daughter was living with her boyfriend in Charlotte. However, they recently broke up and she's now moved back to live with us in Pennsylvania. On our last visit to Charlotte, I placed a couple of caches in Briarwood Park, which is a small park located between The Plaza and North Tryon Street. I thought I'd be continuing to make regular visits to Charlotte and would be able to keep up with maintaining these caches. However, now that my daughter has moved back to PA I won't be able to take care of them. So, I'm putting out a call for help to see if there are any willing volunteers interested in taking over ownership of these caches. Their numbers are GC40EQ8 (Dan's cache) and GC40EPN (Hannah's cache) and they are both log only caches. Thanks.

    I hope someone does take these over for you.


    BTW, Hannah's cache is GC40EPV. The other one (GC40EPN) is in Poland.

  14. Hi there..


    I need help finding geocachers who may go by the name The Mooney Clan. Today a friend reported to me that a letterbox called Mystical Beast had its stamp taken by mistake, and The Mooney Clan wrote in the logbook today that they took the stamp. I typed in The Mooney clan, and can't find them.

    The Mystical Beast letterbox is in Stone Mountain, GA. I'm not at a computer so I don't have any idea of the coords, but maybe someone here can help me find these cachers? The stamp was hand carved and a very good one.


    Does anyone know if there is a geo name search?




    The existence of a geonick search has already been mentioned. However, geocachers will sometimes place underscore characters or hyphens between words in a name, or the words may be strung together without spaces. Geonick searches are not case sensitive, thankfully.


    Here's one letterbox cache at Stone Mountain: Letterbox at Stone Mountain park GC3F5BT


    There has never been a letterbox cache with a name similar to Mystical Beast within 47.5 miles of Letterbox at Stone Mountain park listed on the geocaching.com web site. I have looked at both active and archived caches within the 47.5 mile radius (I have reviewer tools to do this) so the information given to you is not correct.

  15. It could be that the finds were uploaded to the geocaching web site as field notes instead of logs on the cache page. The concept is to allow users to upload basic information about the find through their smart phone application and allow them to access the field notes from a computer with a real keyboard to add details about the search and find, etc.


    When you are logged into your account on the geocaching site go here to see if there are any pending field notes associated with your account: http://www.geocaching.com/my/fieldnotes.aspx


    Good luck.

  16. I'm the volunteer reviewer for that area.


    There are several possibilities for something like that. It may be a cache that has been hidden but not yet submitted for publication. There are a couple of nearby Wherigo caches as well as a number of caches that have been archived, although that wouldn't seem to be the case with a new decon container unless a cache owner is planning to ask for their cache to be unarchived.


    If you come up with additional details please post here and I'll see if I can narrow it down for you. If you would rather, you can contact me by email through my profile.



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