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Originally posted by Warm Fuzzies - Fuzzy:What I suspect we have here is a denizen of the sci.geo.satellite-nav newsgroup who just can't get enough technical talk about the birds that make our little GPS receivers work, so he seeks it out in unlikely places like the geocaching.com forums.
NO fuzzy I think there's way too much technical talk and mostly by some who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.
But what you suspect is absolutely wrong. However I have no intention of spelling my background out specifically for these other jackals, my background is totally irrelvent but lets just say that what many find "fashionable" here has been a daily event for more years than I'd like to remember.
Cheers, Kerry.
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But in general these sites are a maze of myths and miscomceptions and in the past many similar myths and misconceptions have almost become fact, basically caused by some who had absolute no idea what they were on about.
Trailblazer, there's many around here who also don't really know where your coming from, what for and why because on most days you make absolutely no sense what so ever. I can't put it any clearer than that, you mostly talk a whole heap of mumbo jumbo so if you want some advice drop all the riduluous claims and simply get to the point in plain simple english. Maybe you think talking the talk gives you some credibility (pinched that word from Jo) but in most cases it simply highlights a lacking.
And yeah they're still using 1992 technology that should have been dead by 1998, so what just like they continue to use 12 year old GPS satellites that are 5 years past their use by date. So what, it's still old bloody technology, it's not hard to work that one out but you appear to think it's something new, get real.
So what is it trailblazer a game to see who can post the most unrelated and out of date links. If you haven't realized things you post links for comment, so you get some comment then your complaining about comments, so what is do you want comment or not, if you don't want comment then why bother putting it up in the first place.
Maybe Jo's gunna have to have a talk to you, your supposed to be hunting geocaches, benchmarks and bed bugs and you put up links of satellite imagery and remote sensing. Oh Jo won't be pleased.
I'll call a spade a spade basically because I can and don't have any need to justify that.
Cheers, Kerry.
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Well fella's that simply tuff. You don't like it that's also simply tuff, you want to be smart arses then feel free.
Perhaps you pair want to go back to the start of this thread and read it again.
At least here some of the sh.. some of you go on with can be sorted out.
Credibility, oh Jo you've got to be a complete joke.
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You want a dead one or a live one?
SVN5(PRN5) lost Nav (lost nav sounds better than saying it's dead, but it's dead) Nov 28, 1983, it lost its wheels
. Was a poor performer only managing 3 odd years, now lost in space.Actually #'s fit real well with many things.
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Originally posted by Dave54:.... recreation grade GPS acceptable tolerance seems to be around 3-5 meters or so. 0.001 degree is roughly 2 meters so interpolation is acceptable and easy to do field math. A real nerd will whip out a scientific calculator and convert lat-long to UTM out to decimal point land, but most of us do not need nor care to for simple geocaching.
Yes the calculator syndrome, Fix 9 decimals and we'll be spot on
I'll assume then that the "0.001 degree" is a typo then
2 metres? is there another way to read that one, apart from what it's supposed to be?309895
306319
4717676
4717008
Those 2 sets of numbers really have no typo similarlity at all.
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Like I've said Jo, get stuffed, You wouldn't know a sock if you fell over one either.
Generally the last line of defence for some who are really out of their depth is your type of faceless antics.
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Don't have to bash your opinion Joe, get stuffed.
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Originally posted by Dave54:It's the old precision versus accuracy thing.
At nearly 4000 metres difference it ain't..
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Originally posted by jeff35080:quote:
Not sure what the importance of this is, it's not that it's something new.
Jeff ....
If you don't understand that technology on a 1992 launched sea temperature satellite is a little outdated then like I said it ain't nothing new. Jason-1 ain't all that much different.
Really the Turbo Rogue receiver is fairly common especially on some of the world's permanent recording sites. Because it's on a low orbit satellite doens't make it any special at all especially considering GPS has a service volume out to 3000km orbits anyway.
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Well Jeff you obviously wouldn't know a sock puppet was if you fell over one.
No, it might surprise that I do use my real name, how about that and you see I have no other reason not to and have used this name for obviously a lot longer around this site and past geocaching sites than you would remember. Some others do but you don't and the reason? I'll let you work on that one.
You know Jeff after doing what you find "fashionable" and yes it's important for the past 30 odd plus years I probably place a much higher importance on BM's and all associated things than you'll ever likely to understand.
You know your probably a fine Sherrif but don't give it away and become a detective as you'd make a lousy detective especially letting your fiction get in the way of the facts.
Now you want to talk facts or continue with your sh..
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Originally posted by GEO*Trailblazer 1:http://sealevel.jpl.nasa.gov/technology/instrument-gps.html
Not sure what the importance of this is, it's not that it's something new.
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Originally posted by JoGPS:Kerry if you had even one find, one hide, one benchmark find or even a travel bug I would “splane” it to you but all you have is forums post to me that means you get the same back a big 0.……………JOE
Well Joe several self called geocaching experts like you have tried this one but you know something, what you don't know won't hurt you and I have no interest in what you think, because of bed bug finds or whatever.
You can go right ahead if you think you can "spane" it, you got something constructive to say then lets hear it. I'll make my judgement on what you say nothing else.
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So what, it's like saying that when Harrison invented the first "accurate" time piece that he was wrong as what was considered brillant in those years (early to mid 1700's) and realised as one of the most important "watches" ever made is not all that accurate in todays world.
Of the 5 Harrison made he spent about 19 years solely dedicated to just one of them, for there was so much importance back then placed on conquering the longitude problem.
With an accuracy of several minutes during a sea voyage they were considered revolutionary at the time.
What's all this got to do with where ever this is going? well trailblazer you know times (literally) have changed, what was considered brillant in 1762 (and it was) can't hold a flame to the few nano seconds required today and as things get better then what else do you really expect, things have changed, things are going to change, methods have changed lets face it whole countries are constantly every single day and yet you have this thing about why have things changed.
TB, you have some way to go in understanding that preciseness and accuracy of the GPS system has no direct realtionship to land ownership, occupation in any country. Flaws don't exist, just the thinking comes from a different point in time just like Harrison's clocks.
Cheers, Kerry.
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one of these just have to ask questions but what is all the point in this and just where is it supposed to be going 
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Those UTM coordinates aren't even close and certainly nothing to do with any missing (m').
There's also a little misconception with this UTM, nearest metre and being more accurate stuff. One really has to look at the underlying coordinate system capability as ALL other precision capabilities will be based on that. Basically it's like being able to only measure to the nearest yard (3 feet) and thinking that one can enter things in feet and it's more precise. Similar reason why many receivers (even with M.mmm' precision) won't accept every metre especially in the latitude.
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Originally posted by DiscoverGPS:It's still out in the water, but at least it's in the ball park.
I really thought it would be more accurate.
So how blo.... far out in the water is it. How can anybody know just what is going on if all one gets is "it's still out in the Atlantic", now HOW FAR out in the Atlantic.
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Unless some like going around in circles actually posting more relevent information would eliminate much of the guessing with a lot of this stuff. Many want some answers but trying to extract some of the information gets rather difficult at times.
Really distances in this case mean nothing without the coordinates/location as then it's rather easy to determine if it is (or not) a datum issue or a format issue or both and if not then move on to some other cause.
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At this type of receiver level the antenna differences really aren't going to make a great amount of difference when compared to multipath and other issues.
Simply using an external and getting it a little higher will help as it can eliminate the user as an additional unwanted obstruction.
Having a good lock first also helps but in essence one works in the woods knowing that things really aren't supposed to work, so many variables.
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The first 2 actually did have names SVN#1 was Elvis and SVN#2 was Janis then things simply went SVN3(PRN6), SVN4(PRN8), SVN5(PRN5) etc etc rather dull but the numbers have it.
By the way both SVN1 & 2 have passed on.
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Alan2, the coordinates as written one could assume that but the numbers do match the orig DM.m positions but of course that's not the way they are written here.
What was meant and what was used, who knows but gradually we'll pick away at the information that might put some light on the possibilities.
The most position format differences between DM.m and DMS will throw things is about 1/2 a mile. The Atlantic ocean is a big place, just need to now which bit and how far.
Cheers, Kerry.
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A good test procedure is always subjective and not simply an ovservation as with GPS being dynamic, conditions as you will understand are constantly changing. Just because one has reception at a particular time in a particular place simply doesn't mean that will always occur.
As with any testing visual observations can be very selective as opposed to actually recording the data and using ALL the data over a specificed time frame.
I suppose the thing is that since conditions can never really be duplicated then it's difficult comparing this indoors reception issue as really there is simply no consistency. It's really not a comparison that one can base any judgement or decision on as far as single individual receivers are concerned.
This whole inconsistent issue of indoor reception is what defeats the 911 requirement in mobiles.
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So how far out into the Atlantic is it? Knowing that might help to determine what type of issue it is.
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That difference has all the markings of a possible datum and/or position format issue. You were asked about the datum but haven't mentioned looking at that so validate both datum and position format are correct. Eliminate the simply things first.
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There's nothing wrong with those coordinates so it suggests the problem is at your end.
But without being a mind reader it's difficult knowing exactly what your doing in Mapsource.
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A MONUMENTAL TASK
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Some of the land laws have no direct relationship to all this stuff about what has and hasn't changed as if that was the case there would be some major upheavels.
And by the way I've never said anything of the sort that now we have a better system of measurement that this should affect land boundaries, that's garbage.
You know the poor old earth is getting tired, slowed down 13 seconds in 20 odd years, time is changing not a great lot one can do about it either, same as this country keeps moving 60-70mm every year, nothing we can do about that either except realize it's a fact and be able to work around it.
What you need to realize is that there's a lot more reasoning behind what you see as some type of conspiracy.
why would anybody even bother touching that oneAs for your inferral about taking discussions off point, you should adopt the principle of getting to the point, get my point
Cheers, Kerry.
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