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Moisture will be your worst enemy. If you can beat that, temperature shouldn't effect it, unless it's EXTREME cold. For the most part, 20-30 degrees shouldn't have an effect on the camera. My digital camera have been left outside in the cold when it was -10 degrees while hunting, and they still turned on and took pictures.

If that's what the law says, then that's what happens. Fortunatly most laws are worded a bit differently. Here is a blip I found on google from Case law in Iowa. You may have a case with Mislaid Property but that's after the cacher forgot about it. It's all about what the law says, and in general even if legaly abandoned it's not yours to take. With all due respect. Can we not turn this back into a flame war, and let it go? Laws are different everywhere, so what one law for Florida is, doesn't mean it's the same at New York, does it? If it's in local jurisdiction, usually laws will be different from place to place. I'm not an attorney, but that was the impression I was under.

Cheap...ebay. Reliable....Garmin.

Yeah, you don't want to have your fingerprints on it. With the legal system today, just report it to a local officer and keep away from it. If you're in Texas an you pick it up, you may be in the chair the next day.

I was reading a local history book, and stumbled upon an unsolved murder mystery in the area from nearly the 1700's. I was really intrigued and have a plan for a cache hide to play out the story. Maybe your area has a similar story.

Uhh...sir...you sitting on my cache.

I think there used to be a old (now banned) cacher called "The Mad Crapper" and did #2 in all the caches. That would've been harder to come back later and to find any more pleasant.

Oh yeah! I met this guy's soul one time out on the trail. Some sock having fun.

Actually, one time we got stopped by a police officer in Myrtle Beach. And it was an "urban micro" so we were going to explain to him, and he's like, "No, I just wanted to see you try to find it. I'm a cacher too." A little relief after that.

Why would you need to know what is grandfathered? Maybe so less posts that ask questions like..."How is this (some link) cache allowed to happen, and they won't approve mine." I thought you hated those kinds of posts anyways.

Witty today?

On my GPS I can about 200 readings and average them on my Vista C. I get good comments for the accuracy of the coords. There are ways you can average coordinates even if you cannot do it on your GPSr.

Bees aren't fun insects to deal with. We've had some occurences with bee's nests, but with all the stuff I carry, I usually have something to fight back with. Raid is my best bet.

Must be a micro brew. Maybe so, Ed, but at least I don't drink alone as much as you do. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! That was quick. Lep is on a roll!

You lost me!

That may be true, I was making a more vague generalization of urban micros. You may have some "non-looking-suspicious" skill, but for the most part if you hide a micro right beside a window pane of a Cracker Barrel people are going to look at you whether or not you have to poke around to find the cache. My philosophy is, if you are going to hide a cache, make it worthwhile. Most of the Cracker Barrel caches really aren't going to take someone in the area to a place they haven't been before. But may cause suspicion to surround them. And when I go into the woods, I never have a problem. We find the nearest public parking spot, or ask a local if we can park at their place while we hike. We get out our hiking gear, and no questions are asked. Hikers have a more legitmate front usually, and aren't questioned. People poking around in the middle of a high traffic street, or at a Cracker Barrel where possibly the owner doesn't even know the cache is infact there, in my opinion, would draw alot more attention. But that's just how I see it.

I think there are way too many view points on this subject, and no one ever wins in the end. My opinion, hunt what you like, hide what you like. And for the most part, people follow that as well, but some people carry the "hide" overboard. If you hide 200 micros, yourself, in one city, you are a self-centered cacher. Regardless of size, style, etc. you are trying to influence everyone around you to cache the way you want. Urban caches do raise suspicion, especially when you're on the porch of a Cracker Barrel with families having their meals and staring at you while you search. I agree that urban micros should be more "well thought out" and shouldn't put people in bad situations...like my first cache I hidden, which was a micro. The OP may have been getting at, that, for the most part, urban caches that raise suspicion are usually micros. If it was a regular sized ammo can, it's probably hidden in a place that has less traffic and the hunter can get in, sign the log, get out without rasing suspicion. If you're in New York City on Broadway trying to tear through every possible location you see to find a cache without a hint, you get mad. It's certainly a touchy subject, but one that needs to be instilled in the heads of both new and old cachers.

Yes, many cachers on the more interesting caches in the area seem to go over the 4,000 character limit. Then if they feel to type more, they just post a note to continue their cache log story. Cache hiders love to see the long story of hiding the cache, so go ahead....write a novel.

Finally a positive OP Posting! Go out and have some fun.

Want every single option in a nice sized GPS that will do anything that any other GPS by Garmin can do plus more. Garmin GPSmap 60CS. Undisputed champion, except by people who aren't fans of the pricetag.

Legend C. Auto-routing capabilites. Color Screen. Perfect Fit For Your Hand. GPS V gets good reviews, but seems that the color screen is the way to go nowadays in buying GPSr's. I'd buy Legend C.

What are you trying to say here? What statistics? It's not about statistics, it's about the bills adventure. I'm sorry if I gave into this seemingly endless argument.

As time goes by more and more cachers seem to be piecing together creative puzzle caches. Most of these are mind numbing brain twisters that make one take pride in that smilie when they proudly write their name in the log book. What was your favorite puzzle cache based on the technique used to derive the coordinates or creativity of the puzzle?

Maybe it's a "persona" that the avatar portrays on the website. A character in a larger story, and piece in a puzzle. Or maybe....it's just a picture...I dunno.

True... Once I reach within 50 feet of the cache, I usually shut the GPS off and search for hiding places. I have more fun doing so. If in heavy groundcover I may travel closer to the cache, but usually without WAAS I obtain an accuracy of +/- 10 feet. Which I believe is just as good as with WAAS on.