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Thanks brdad, I learn something new every day. Now I've just got to figure a way to use this in a conversation Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

For what it's worth, I store mine in the refrigerator and haven't seen anything growing yet Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

For what it's worth, I store mine in the refrigerator and haven't seen anything growing yet Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

quote:Originally posted by brdad: A pre-made magnet can be bought called a "cow magnet". They are fed to cows to trap any metal they may eat to prevent illness. They are 12-15 mm diameter and about 60 mm long, with rounded ends and quite strong. _ brdad, In my constant search for knowledge, I've got to ask - how does this work? The magnet attracts ferrous material and passes through the animal, taking the bad metal out? What about aluminum? Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

quote:Originally posted by brdad: A pre-made magnet can be bought called a "cow magnet". They are fed to cows to trap any metal they may eat to prevent illness. They are 12-15 mm diameter and about 60 mm long, with rounded ends and quite strong. _ brdad, In my constant search for knowledge, I've got to ask - how does this work? The magnet attracts ferrous material and passes through the animal, taking the bad metal out? What about aluminum? Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

GC8FF5 shows up under "Upper Volta" Might have missed the declaration of war, but last time I looked Hull was in UK Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

GC8FF5 shows up under "Upper Volta" Might have missed the declaration of war, but last time I looked Hull was in UK Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

Wow, I go off and do some actual work and look what happens: "I still put my foot down firmly and state that a receiver is not any transmitter. By transmitter, I mean one that is an intentional transmitter." Like I said, my point was philosophical - A transmitter is a transmitter, intentionally or otherwise. I was trying to stay a bit with the thread; ejmct had said GPS device wasn't a receiver, then HD-Man and Family said it was and that it was also a transmitter, then you said..then I said. But as you said, and I agreed with, it transmits at too low a level to be significant. But it does transmit. "You hardly call a desktop computer a radio transmitter, in spite of the fact that it radiate significantly more than your GPS does, do you?" Umm, actually I could. There used to be something called Tempest standards. Men in dark glasses could sit outside your building and receive data from your computer. These data were "transmitted" from the computer. "You can't argue that the GSM phone should be allowed, just because of the CE mark. A phone, which is an intentional transmitter, isn't tested against the same standard as a computer, GPS or similar. If it was, none would be allowed." My point, which I didn't express too well, is that you made such a good argument for allowing GPS devices to be used, that you could do it for mobile phones too. However, reading my post again I can see how my comment could be interpreted as sarcastic but the and are meant to imply a certain whimsical nature to the question. "Finally, I'm happy you found the post informative (if you aren't ironic?). " I am ironic, but I much prefer sarcasm . However, neither was implied in my post! Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

Wow, I go off and do some actual work and look what happens: "I still put my foot down firmly and state that a receiver is not any transmitter. By transmitter, I mean one that is an intentional transmitter." Like I said, my point was philosophical - A transmitter is a transmitter, intentionally or otherwise. I was trying to stay a bit with the thread; ejmct had said GPS device wasn't a receiver, then HD-Man and Family said it was and that it was also a transmitter, then you said..then I said. But as you said, and I agreed with, it transmits at too low a level to be significant. But it does transmit. "You hardly call a desktop computer a radio transmitter, in spite of the fact that it radiate significantly more than your GPS does, do you?" Umm, actually I could. There used to be something called Tempest standards. Men in dark glasses could sit outside your building and receive data from your computer. These data were "transmitted" from the computer. "You can't argue that the GSM phone should be allowed, just because of the CE mark. A phone, which is an intentional transmitter, isn't tested against the same standard as a computer, GPS or similar. If it was, none would be allowed." My point, which I didn't express too well, is that you made such a good argument for allowing GPS devices to be used, that you could do it for mobile phones too. However, reading my post again I can see how my comment could be interpreted as sarcastic but the and are meant to imply a certain whimsical nature to the question. "Finally, I'm happy you found the post informative (if you aren't ironic?). " I am ironic, but I much prefer sarcasm . However, neither was implied in my post! Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

Anders, Very informative - now can you argue for GSM phones to be used on 'planes? Mine's got a CE approval I would have to argue philosophically against your comment that receivers are not transmitters. Generally, any receiver uses internal oscillators which will radiate - although as you point out the amount can be negligable. Small point, did you mean GHz? L1 = 1575.42MHz (1.57542GHz) "Since the GPS frequency is about 1.5 MHz, there must be oscillators in the unit with a higher frequency than 1 MHz." Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

Anders, Very informative - now can you argue for GSM phones to be used on 'planes? Mine's got a CE approval I would have to argue philosophically against your comment that receivers are not transmitters. Generally, any receiver uses internal oscillators which will radiate - although as you point out the amount can be negligable. Small point, did you mean GHz? L1 = 1575.42MHz (1.57542GHz) "Since the GPS frequency is about 1.5 MHz, there must be oscillators in the unit with a higher frequency than 1 MHz." Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

Just a joke On my Garmin once, I noticed when I reversed my route exactly (back down the same path) the North/South part of the breadcrumb trail was followed exactly, whereas the East/West was running about 10M parallel. I emailed Garmin and they said this was normal - the sats would have changed and the errors were within spec. Another possibility is maybe you changed the datum? Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

Just a joke On my Garmin once, I noticed when I reversed my route exactly (back down the same path) the North/South part of the breadcrumb trail was followed exactly, whereas the East/West was running about 10M parallel. I emailed Garmin and they said this was normal - the sats would have changed and the errors were within spec. Another possibility is maybe you changed the datum? Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

What kind of bridge? - not an active railroad bridge I hope, 'cos that's against the rules quote:Originally posted by BrianSnat: quote: A couple of days ago, I got one of those metal boxes that AOL sometimes ships their CDs in.Once I get it painted, it's a cache looking for an appropriate location. I found one in one of these boxes. It was cleverly hidden in a gap between some bridge supports. However it was in Sacramento, where it doesn't rain at all for 6 months out of the year. These AOL tins are not waterproof at all and I wouldn't recommend them in wet areas or places where you get snow. "Life is a daring adventure, or it is nothing" - Helen Keller "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."

What kind of bridge? - not an active railroad bridge I hope, 'cos that's against the rules quote:Originally posted by BrianSnat: quote: A couple of days ago, I got one of those metal boxes that AOL sometimes ships their CDs in.Once I get it painted, it's a cache looking for an appropriate location. I found one in one of these boxes. It was cleverly hidden in a gap between some bridge supports. However it was in Sacramento, where it doesn't rain at all for 6 months out of the year. These AOL tins are not waterproof at all and I wouldn't recommend them in wet areas or places where you get snow. "Life is a daring adventure, or it is nothing" - Helen Keller "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."

Currently in Jordan. I think there's about 50 in a 1500 x 1000 KM area. quote:Originally posted by enfanta:within 100 miles of 16870 (Port Matilda, PA). I have soooooo much work to do. Sigh. crr003, where are you that you have only TWO in a hundred mile radius??? I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

Currently in Jordan. I think there's about 50 in a 1500 x 1000 KM area. quote:Originally posted by enfanta:within 100 miles of 16870 (Port Matilda, PA). I have soooooo much work to do. Sigh. crr003, where are you that you have only TWO in a hundred mile radius??? I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

(yes, two) I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

(yes, two) I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

quote:Originally posted by Teasel:Is it just me, or does anyone else find it awkward dealing with HDDD MM.MM format locations? In the UK, all good walking maps are based on the OS National Grid, so it seems odd that anyone would choose HDDD MM.MM... If others agree, I suggest we ask for the option to convert any HDDD MM.MM / WGS84 coordinates to National Grid / OSGB36. I'm happy to do the coding for this, and I could probably knock up a 'proof of concept' web page, if anyone's interested? I don't know about all the GPS units out there, but on my Garmin 3+ you can suck the waypoints in in lat/long-WGS84 and it is a simple thing to get the GPS to convert internally to UK grid-OSGB36. (If you need to). Don't forget this is a US-centric hobby/sport/pastime so any request from the outside world will be filed appropriately (as in trig point hunting). (Plus there are only so many resources to go round - your offer to do the work might help!) In the meantime, I think there are several UK caching web sites that you could house your convertor on. Ideally yes, the option should be there, as is NAD27 or UTM options. I've noticed in other threads when people question the coordinate format there isn't much sympathy - and given the global reach of geocaching, maybe less is better. People seem to get confused enough downloading coords - the fewer options the better!

quote:Originally posted by Teasel:Is it just me, or does anyone else find it awkward dealing with HDDD MM.MM format locations? In the UK, all good walking maps are based on the OS National Grid, so it seems odd that anyone would choose HDDD MM.MM... If others agree, I suggest we ask for the option to convert any HDDD MM.MM / WGS84 coordinates to National Grid / OSGB36. I'm happy to do the coding for this, and I could probably knock up a 'proof of concept' web page, if anyone's interested? I don't know about all the GPS units out there, but on my Garmin 3+ you can suck the waypoints in in lat/long-WGS84 and it is a simple thing to get the GPS to convert internally to UK grid-OSGB36. (If you need to). Don't forget this is a US-centric hobby/sport/pastime so any request from the outside world will be filed appropriately (as in trig point hunting). (Plus there are only so many resources to go round - your offer to do the work might help!) In the meantime, I think there are several UK caching web sites that you could house your convertor on. Ideally yes, the option should be there, as is NAD27 or UTM options. I've noticed in other threads when people question the coordinate format there isn't much sympathy - and given the global reach of geocaching, maybe less is better. People seem to get confused enough downloading coords - the fewer options the better!

Criminal, wcgreen, I wanted to leave a couple of things out there so the more creative cachers would have something to work with. And there you are! I assumed they left the pencil out on purpose as its capability for being lethal (or at least taking another eye out) is renowned. I'm surprised you can still carry one on a 'plane these days. Maybe you should carry your own writing instrument into caching action to mitigate the risk. "Left nothing - took pencil, matches, soap, chocolate, cigar, tin of tuna, scotch - got cleaned up, lit the camp fire and had a party - thanks for the cache" [This message was edited by crr003 on September 08, 2002 at 11:18 PM.]

Criminal, wcgreen, I wanted to leave a couple of things out there so the more creative cachers would have something to work with. And there you are! I assumed they left the pencil out on purpose as its capability for being lethal (or at least taking another eye out) is renowned. I'm surprised you can still carry one on a 'plane these days. Maybe you should carry your own writing instrument into caching action to mitigate the risk. "Left nothing - took pencil, matches, soap, chocolate, cigar, tin of tuna, scotch - got cleaned up, lit the camp fire and had a party - thanks for the cache" [This message was edited by crr003 on September 08, 2002 at 11:18 PM.]

I think it sounds fine, but I have been educated recently on cache contents and see some risk items: Two 13 gallon trashbags - Child could find cache, crawl into bag and suffocate! Suction cup digital clock - Safe! small knife - What are you thinking about!?! - Child could find cache and cut itself or take an eye out. hacky sack - depending on the size a child could eat this and choke battery powered personal fan - batteries could explode in high temperature, leaking chemicals which a child could find etc. emergency pancho - safe! logbook - safe! bug repelent - child/animal could find and eat/drink/lick depending on format 2 AA batteries - as for the fan. Obviously I am joking here (but I bet someone will comment on the knife). Good luck - I would feel safe opening your cache and the contents would interest me (but then again I eat things out of caches (non-US caches)

I think it sounds fine, but I have been educated recently on cache contents and see some risk items: Two 13 gallon trashbags - Child could find cache, crawl into bag and suffocate! Suction cup digital clock - Safe! small knife - What are you thinking about!?! - Child could find cache and cut itself or take an eye out. hacky sack - depending on the size a child could eat this and choke battery powered personal fan - batteries could explode in high temperature, leaking chemicals which a child could find etc. emergency pancho - safe! logbook - safe! bug repelent - child/animal could find and eat/drink/lick depending on format 2 AA batteries - as for the fan. Obviously I am joking here (but I bet someone will comment on the knife). Good luck - I would feel safe opening your cache and the contents would interest me (but then again I eat things out of caches (non-US caches)